Is that the same game Louis Oliver had the 105 yard pick six?
- Hatboro_Swords

No

https://www.pro-football-...oxscores/199309260buf.htm


It was 92
https://www.pro-football-...oxscores/199210040buf.htm

He’s gotten worse.
- dadeadhead

Yeah that's why you trade for him now 21 and ready to break out sign me up

Yes sir.
- Pegullaville

Well Pegs, then if Rhino can be signed to a decent contract you sign him, he still produces. But if he can be included in a trade that brings in something that helps this team become better then that should be a no brainer. It's all in what you think his future production will be.

Yeah that's why you trade for him now 21 and ready to break out sign me up
- gerbe75pts

Puljujarvi

I’m not advocating, nor would I do it, but I feel like a Max Domi for Reinhart swap is realistic

I’m not advocating, nor would I do it, but I feel like a Max Domi for Reinhart swap is realistic
- sbroads24

That's a interesting idea.

From a different article by Joe back on March 31st:

I am on board with the idea of keeping Larsson (price pending as I would never pay him $3M per) and also going after the trio of Craig Smith (C/RW), Pat Maroon (4th line LW/RW), and Tyler Toffoli (LW/RW).

In order for the above to be possible, trades absolutely have to happen.

https://theathletic.com/1...-agent-class-of-forwards/

A few interesting candidates pop up on this list. We know Hall is going to cash in with someone and the same is likely for Hoffman, as both will get long-term deals. Since we’re not trying to break the bank wide open, we’ll look a little lower. This is where Craig Smith is interesting. He’s good for about 20 goals per season and when he’s on the ice his team gets a lot of shots off (career 53.6 even strength Corsi).

Toffoli is really intriguing as well. He’s a guy that would’ve been an ideal buy-low candidate a year ago, but he’s picked it back up this season with L.A. and Vancouver. When the Kings were steadily good, he was a key contributor. He peaked with 31 goals and 58 points in 2015-2016 but he’s capable of 20-plus goals and plays with speed. He’s also going to get a lot of attention if he’s a free agent. He’s from Scarborough, Ontario though. Maybe he’d want to be closer to home like fellow Scarborough native Simmonds.

Would you run me out of town for arguing to keep Larsson and Vesey? Don’t pack my bags yet, but finding players of equal or better value than them will be difficult. Larsson ranks out as one of the better players in the potential UFA forward group and Vesey is right there with him. Smith, Spezza, and Toffoli are all about on par with Vesey and you could argue you’d get more offense from Smith and Toffoli than Vesey.

Keep in mind Vesey is having a down offensive year while not being a liability defensively. If the goals come back (and his career-low shooting 9.7 shooting percentage says they should) it’d be a solid rebound for a guy who’s put up 16 or 17 goals per season before this one.

Simmonds would love to stay in Buffalo and Girgensons had a very good season on a line with Larsson and Kyle Okposo. Keeping both of them could mean asking veteran players to sit out occasionally and that’s probably not something any veteran wants to sign up to do. Letting both players go and signing Patrick Maroon to play the left side with Larsson and Okposo would bring in a physical player who can score occasional goals and recently won a Stanley Cup with St. Louis. If you're going to make a change to a group that's done well, getting a positive player like Maroon (career 52.6 Corsi at even strength) would indicate a fix for a toughness "problem" and add a winner to the group.

Keeping: Larsson, Vesey

Losing: Girgensons, Frolik, Simmonds, Wilson, Sobotka

Go after: Smith, Maroon, Toffoli
- kingcong39

Very interesting. If they brought in Maroon, I'd let Larsson and his probable $2.5m cap hit walk and replace him with Asplund who will cost less than $1m and could really gain valuable NHL experience in that role between 2 vet players

Puljujarvi
- navinrjohnson

Not for Sam hes worth 3rd or 2nd

Well Pegs, then if Rhino can be signed to a decent contract you sign him, he still produces. But if he can be included in a trade that brings in something that helps this team become better then that should be a no brainer. It's all in what you think his future production will be.
- Buff36

I have never advocated giving Reinhart away.

Have I beaten the dead horse that he was the wrong pick at 2OA ? That is correct. However, he is a top 6 RW whom has value and I would not be against him remaining in the Sabres sweater.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a Hamphus Lindholm/Jonas Brodin on the back end though I’d consider it.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a player like a Nico Hischier or Anthony Cirelli (impossible due to Tampa’s cap consideration but just an example) that can give us a legitimate 2C for right now I would do consider that also.

If Reinhart can be used to acquire a player that increases our chances of winning hockey games then why can’t it be explored ? Too many times when you say you want to trade someone it’s taken as a negative connotation.

I’m not advocating, nor would I do it, but I feel like a Max Domi for Reinhart swap is realistic
- sbroads24

Yeah, I brought it up on the Canadiens board a while back with some mid rounders to balance and I got a pretty good response.

I would do it in a heartbeat

Not for Sam hes worth 3rd or 2nd
- gerbe75pts

sam and risto for Puljujarvi, Hopkins and a 2nd

I have never advocated giving Reinhart away.

Have I beaten the dead horse that he was the wrong pick at 2OA ? That is correct. However, he is a top 6 RW whom has value and I would not be against him remaining in the Sabres sweater.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a Hamphus Lindholm/Jonas Brodin on the back end though I’d consider it.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a player like a Nico Hischier or Anthony Cirelli (impossible due to Tampa’s cap consideration but just an example) that can give us a legitimate 2C for right now I would do consider that also.

If Reinhart can be used to acquire a player that increases our chances of winning hockey games then why can’t it be explored ? Too many times when you say you want to trade someone it’s taken as a negative connotation.
- Pegullaville

There seems to be some sense that Reinhart can never be signed to a value contract even though that's all he's done, and then he has produced at levels that justify the contracts he has signed.

I won't argue with the idea that he's indisposable. But to say "He can't be a part of a championship roster." or "He's going to be overpaid." is just oversimplified and false.

sam and risto for Puljujarvi, Hopkins and a 2nd
- navinrjohnson

Appears that both would be upgrades from Sam.

sam and risto for Puljujarvi, Hopkins and a 2nd
- navinrjohnson

That's too much on our end

sam and risto for Puljujarvi, Hopkins and a 2nd
- navinrjohnson

Yikes!

So essentially it’s
Risto for RNH(pending UFA in a year)
And
Sam for a bust and a 2nd

I’m all for spitballing and thinking outside the box but that’s a bad trade.

There seems to be some sense that Reinhart can never be signed to a value contract even though that's all he's done, and then he has produced at levels that justify the contracts he has signed.

I won't argue with the idea that he's indisposable. But to say "He can't be a part of a championship roster." or "He's going to be overpaid." is just oversimplified and false.
- Der Kaiser

I mean it’s premature to say the least.

We don’t know what term and AAV he’ll get but yes to this point he has outproduced every contract he’s had.

Yeah, I brought it up on the Canadiens board a while back with some mid rounders to balance and I got a pretty good response.

I would do it in a heartbeat
- jcragcrumple

I think Reinhart is a decent amount better than Domi. Personally I wouldn’t but I feel like it’s a logical trade to happen.

sam and risto for Puljujarvi, Hopkins and a 2nd
- navinrjohnson

Don't think Edmonton would do that. They don't really have the cap space. Also, RNH could just walk next summer for nothing and has been playing mostly LW.

I have never advocated giving Reinhart away.

Have I beaten the dead horse that he was the wrong pick at 2OA ? That is correct. However, he is a top 6 RW whom has value and I would not be against him remaining in the Sabres sweater.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a Hamphus Lindholm/Jonas Brodin on the back end though I’d consider it.

If Reinhart can be parlayed into a player like a Nico Hischier or Anthony Cirelli (impossible due to Tampa’s cap consideration but just an example) that can give us a legitimate 2C for right now I would do consider that also.

If Reinhart can be used to acquire a player that increases our chances of winning hockey games then why can’t it be explored ? Too many times when you say you want to trade someone it’s taken as a negative connotation.
- Pegullaville

That's it, if it makes the team better it should always be a consideration. Sam's a good player, if his contract demands aren't irrational I have know problem keeping him. But for the right return, he would be out the door.

I think Reinhart is a decent amount better than Domi. Personally I wouldn’t but I feel like it’s a logical trade to happen.
- sbroads24

Domi should be considerably cheaper to sign, has played with less talent (Armia and Lehkonen most often), and although you may think Rhino is better overall I could argue that Domi is better at playing center.

Like I always said. Samsonite should've been traded with ROR. They played at the same pace. Reinhart was better with ROR than any other line mate in his career. The biggest moron of a GM in sports history would've got double fleeced so maybe it is a good thing he didn't make that trade.

Like I always said. Samsonite should've been traded with ROR. They played at the same pace. Reinhart was better with ROR than any other line mate in his career. The biggest moron of a GM in sports history would've got double fleeced so maybe it is a good thing he didn't make that trade.
- Hatboro_Swords

If Botts is as bad as people on here are saying, and Kruger is as bad as people are saying, why are they still employed? Our team has gone nowhere and does not seem to be headed in the right direction, based on standings and discussion around the league AND on this board.

If we look at all the signs, why does anyone still have a job? I am serious. Why do they all still have jobs?

This Cox signing is bothering me. His dad was almost as big of a richard as a Coach for Falcons as he was a player. Not only that, but another Carolina retread? Get out of here with that. I'm tired of Carolina retreads. If they've been coming here and knocking our socks off then fine, but they aren't. Its getting annoying.

Yikes!

So essentially it’s
Risto for RNH(pending UFA in a year)
And
Sam for a bust and a 2nd

I’m all for spitballing and thinking outside the box but that’s a bad trade.
- dadeadhead

deal would be worked to lock RNH up for more years

If Botts is as bad as people on here are saying, and Kruger is as bad as people are saying, why are they still employed? Our team has gone nowhere and does not seem to be headed in the right direction, based on standings and discussion around the league AND on this board.

If we look at all the signs, why does anyone still have a job? I am serious. Why do they all still have jobs?
- TC4145

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no idea.