Does anyone outside of Buffalo even know who Sam Reinhart is ?

We had one of the most lucrative assets in the NHL in a top 2 draft selection and we selected a player whom gives you the same production you can get off the street in free agency this year.

Someone will sign Hoffman or Dadonov for nothing but cap space and get a top 6 RW and we used one a top 2 pick to get one.

To make matters worse, Draisatil was there for the taking.

Would ROR still be here if Draisatil was the pick ?

Would Leon have pushed the needle in the Babs and Stammer negotiations ?

Who really knows.

Let’s except mediocrity then, sorry for being honest.
- Pegullaville

Would we have gotten Dahlin?

Good grief
The whining is fierce today

U guys could be talking about how we are gonna be in the playoffs!!!
Wtf???

Sabres fans are loyal in some respects but they whiffed. When they haven't made the playoffs and Reinhart is pretty much an afterthought player they whiffed.

When there is a debate about Jack and Marner on Ek's blog and everyone says Marner has talent to play with but Jack has squat and Reinhart is part of that squat they whiffed in the eyes of people outside Buffalo.
- GilPerreault11

Yeah... base your argument off of what gets said on EKs blog 😂😂😂
You’ve lost it

Does anyone outside of Buffalo even know who Sam Reinhart is ?

We had one of the most lucrative assets in the NHL in a top 2 draft selection and we selected a player whom gives you the same production you can get off the street in free agency this year.

Someone will sign Hoffman or Dadonov for nothing but cap space and get a top 6 RW and we used one a top 2 pick to get one.

To make matters worse, Draisatil was there for the taking.

Would ROR still be here if Draisatil was the pick ?

Would Leon have pushed the needle in the Babs and Stammer negotiations ?

Who really knows.

Let’s except mediocrity then, sorry for being honest.
- Pegullaville

This is every bit as uninformed as GilPerrault

Would we have gotten Dahlin?

Good grief
The whining is fierce today

U guys could be talking about how we are gonna be in the playoffs!!!
Wtf???
- jdfitz77

This team needs another top 10 pick, not to play 2-3 extra games.

Reinhart was drafted 6 years ago and has played around 50 games at center. Are you really blaming him for the current state of the roster?
- jcragcrumple

Yeah and Jack will be 5, and not blaming Rhino, but sure would have helped if he could play the position he was drafted for. A lot easier finding Wingers then it is Centers. I blame 1 GM cause he traded everything away, and the next cause he has failed so far. This team should be totally different, it's a failure of multiple GM's.

No, rushing the tank and poor asset management did.

If Pegula told Murray to speed it up and trade for ROR instead of gunning for Matthews the following the year then there is your problem.
- Pegullaville

The tank hasn't worked out all that well so far. Things will eventually turn around, but perhaps karma is in play and we're paying for it

The tank hasn't worked out all that well so far. Things will eventually turn around, but perhaps karma is in play and we're paying for it
- Michael Pachla

It had potential to. A bad GM followed by an even worse one doomed us.

Yeah... base your argument off of what gets said on EKs blog 😂😂😂
You’ve lost it
- jdfitz77

My argument is much deeper than that champ, it is just a fact that you and others hump the Reinhart tree and few others outside of WNY don't.

That's not the root. The root was we had Eichel and ROR down the middle. It made sense to move Reinhart to wing.

In any case, it's been 6 (frank)ing years. 3 full years of this GM alone. 2 years without a 2C. And you're going to lay that blame at the foot of a productive winger?

That's a cop out
- jcragcrumple

Should have never traded for ROR, the rebuild had just started. Multiple pieces were traded that could be helping this team know. Other trades wouldn't have happened to fill spots that players traded away could have filled.

It had potential to. A bad GM followed by an even worse one doomed us.
- Fattony1187

I get the feeling that if Patty Lala had his way, there would have been no tank. Bad part is no Sam and Jack, good part is he wouldn't have allowed GMTM to go through all of those draft picks.

This is every bit as uninformed as GilPerrault
- Der Kaiser

I would take offense to this but I have been right about Reinhart before he was even drafted and everyone here was lapping him up like he was some sort of star and still do. You are invested so good luck with that.

You’re right he hasn’t fixed it.

Saying he hasn’t tried or used assets at the center position isn’t reality
- sbroads24

I'm sorry but thinking 1st and 2nd year players are the answer as if to solely rely on that assumption being true is a massive mistake on his part.

Should have never traded for ROR, the rebuild had just started. Multiple pieces were traded that could be helping this team know. Other trades wouldn't have happened to fill spots that players traded away could have filled.
- Buff36

It wasn't a bad idea. Bring in a vet top-6 center and have him shoulder the weight until Jack was ready to be No
1. When all was said and done, there's your top 2 centers

Should have never traded for ROR, the rebuild had just started. Multiple pieces were traded that could be helping this team know. Other trades wouldn't have happened to fill spots that players traded away could have filled.
- Buff36

That is wrong it didn’t “just start” we started selling players in 2011/12 season (gaustad) then pominville the next season then miller and vanek the next year. All before trading for Oreilly. The Oreilly trade was season 4 of trying to rebuild after selling assets. Not the “beginning”

I get the feeling that if Patty Lala had his way, there would have been no tank. Bad part is no Sam and Jack, good part is he wouldn't have allowed GMTM to go through all of those draft picks.
- Michael Pachla

So instead we could have become synonymous with Minnesota, Montreal, and all of the other teams that are mediocre and field an ok team every year and still look up into the rafters and see nothing ?

No, rushing the tank and poor asset management did.

If Pegula told Murray to speed it up and trade for ROR instead of gunning for Matthews the following the year then there is your problem.
- Pegullaville

Assuming they would have won the draft lottery...

I get the feeling that if Patty Lala had his way, there would have been no tank. Bad part is no Sam and Jack, good part is he wouldn't have allowed GMTM to go through all of those draft picks.
- Michael Pachla

We wouldn’t of had all those draft picks. He would of kept miller and vanek.

Listen, my opinion on Botterill has certainly changed over the past 3 years. But things like this are said frequently that are just not true

He’s drafted two centers in the top 10, another with a high 2nd rounder. He’s also attempted to trade for guys like Trocheck.

He hasn’t actually made a big trade for a top 6 center. That’s it

If Casey Mittelstadt was good then the problem would be considered fixed
- sbroads24

He tried to trade for A guy in Trocheck. Key word is tried.

You are your results and the bottom line is his 'plan' for 2 years running was to rely on a 1st or 2nd year player to completely solve the problem.

That is a fireable offense.

This team needs another top 10 pick, not to play 2-3 extra games.
- Pegullaville

None of us can control what they decide to implement as far as the playoffs go

So why not just ENJOY IT???


Also...
we could still end up with a top10 pick

I'm sorry but thinking 1st and 2nd year players are the answer as if to solely rely on that assumption being true is a massive mistake on his part.
- kingcong39

I’m not debating that.

I’m debating the false narrative that he’s just not aware that he needs centers

That is wrong it didn’t “just start” we started selling players in 2011/12 season (gaustad) then pominville the next season then miller and vanek the next year. All before trading for Oreilly. The Oreilly trade was season 4 of trying to rebuild after selling assets. Not the “beginning”
- Fattony1187

We were gaining assets when trading the older players, getting draft picks that's why they had 3 firsts for a couple years but then sold a few of those off.

It's easier to blow up a team than build one.

My argument is much deeper than that champ, it is just a fact that you and others hump the Reinhart tree and few others outside of WNY do.
- GilPerreault11

Lolololololol

Ok boomer. Go home... you’re drunk

Assuming they would have won the draft lottery...
- kingcong39

I wouldn’t have complained if we got Laine, Dubois, Tkachuk, heck maybe even Jessie P might have found a home next to Eichel and his development might not have gone south.

None of us can control what they decide to implement as far as the playoffs go

So why not just ENJOY IT???


Also...
we could still end up with a top10 pick
- jdfitz77

Then that would be quite nice.

He tried to trade for A guy in Trocheck. Key word is tried.

You are your results and the bottom line is his 'plan' for 2 years running was to rely on a 1st or 2nd year player to completely solve the problem.

That is a fireable offense.
- kingcong39

Has the GM even tried once to actually replace him? The answer is absolutely not.
- kingcong39

These are your words. And not singling you out, it’s been said many times, it’s just false.

He’s failed to have a 2C for this year and last. But he hasn’t ignored the position for the future in the slightest