Can't really say that about Patrick injuries have hurt him but you cant call him a bust till he plays about 2 full years
- gerbe75pts

Pettersson is the next Datsyuk.

Kid is approaching Eichel level talent.

I don’t think Patrick has that kind of ceiling

How many would Leon have next to Jack ?

We would have had Jack100 two years ago.
- Pegullaville

But how many would Bennett?

In terms of expected goals above replacement this season, Sam Reinhart ranks 29th in the league, right around the likes of Brayden Point, John Carlson, and Pierre-Luc Dubois.

Reinhart has more 5v5 points than players such as Sebastian Aho, Sean Monahan, Kyle Connor, Mathew Barzal and Ryan O’Reilly.

These are names that are obviously mediocre players in the NHL, and if your theory is that he wouldn't have any success in the league then all these guys - and everyone who writes about them - want to have a chat
- Der Kaiser

Stats are funny sometimes especially when you have a player like Jack feeding you night in and night out. Would any of the teams with those players take Reinhart for them?

He was the root of the Sabres current situation and it is what it is.

Sam is alright like I said he turned into Patrick sharp 2.0 which is fine but hes not Someone that's gonna carry the team when needed.

I don't think he worth the next contract of 7m or 8m that's a mistake imo trade him for an upcoming player that is ready to break out .. like I said keller or nico

Should have never traded for ROR, the rebuild had just started. Multiple pieces were traded that could be helping this team know. Other trades wouldn't have happened to fill spots that players traded away could have filled.
- Buff36

Ahhhh.
Revisionist history.
ROR was brought in to protect Jack from assuming 1C duties.
It is possible Jack could have lost his way being so young and having to play 1C.
ROR also taught Sam the NHL game by mentoring him and conducting the ROR Practices ... which Sam said were important to him.

Bringing ROR in had benefits, he paid too much.

But how many would Bennett?
- sbroads24

So is having Josh Allen ok because you didn’t end up with Rosen ?

Mean while the Bills traded away a SuperBowl MVP the year before and passed on this years NFL MVP ?

If you look at life that way then sure, I guess life is good.

Pettersson is the next Datsyuk.

Kid is approaching Eichel level talent.

I don’t think Patrick has that kind of ceiling
- Pegullaville

Pettersson is a stud but you never no Patrick might hit that elite status like Couturier he just needs to stay healthy
If he is still the same in 2 years then bust

Ahhhh.
Revisionist history.
ROR was brought in to protect Jack from assuming 1C duties.
It is possible Jack could have lost his way being so young and having to play 1C.
ROR also taught Sam the NHL game by mentoring him and conducting the ROR Practices ... which Sam said were important to him.

Bringing ROR in had benefits, he paid too much.
- IonSabres

If Reinhart could play his cerebral 2nd line game why would they give up those assets to get another 2nd line center to do the same. What would they do with three top centers? Would Reinhart's agent let him play wing if he could? He wouldn't have signed that crappy bridge deal and it's all about the money.

So is having Josh Allen ok because you didn’t end up with Rosen ?

Mean while the Bills traded away a SuperBowl MVP the year before and passed on this years NFL MVP ?

If you look at life that way then sure, I guess life is good.
- Pegullaville

Let's make one think clean Terry and Kim and Everyone wanted Patrick But our GM traded the pick and that's why he got fired

What was that?
- jdfitz77

he made a comparison of how things that never changed with something to battered women

and defended it for 2 hours

Since "NY Pause" has started, I have watched all available seasons start to finish:

The Man in the High Castle
Ozark, and
Letterkenny.

We need to go back to work...

Pettersson is the next Datsyuk.

Kid is approaching Eichel level talent.

I don’t think Patrick has that kind of ceiling
- Pegullaville

most number 2's overall do not have that ceiling

the eichels and malkins are few and far between


you get a lot more reinharts, jvr's and reddens

Since "NY Pause" has started, I have watched all available seasons start to finish:

The Man in the High Castle
Ozark, and
Letterkenny.

We need to go back to work...
- buffalofan19

go goliath next

most number 2's overall do not have that ceiling

the eichels and malkins are few and far between


you get a lot more reinharts, jvr's and reddens
- navinrjohnson

That's not true at all

Since "NY Pause" has started, I have watched all available seasons start to finish:

The Man in the High Castle
Ozark, and
Letterkenny.

We need to go back to work...
- buffalofan19

Watch Altered Carbon

Let's make one think clean Terry and Kim and Everyone wanted Patrick But our GM traded the pick and that's why he got fired
- gerbe75pts

he was getting fired anyway

So instead we could have become synonymous with Minnesota, Montreal, and all of the other teams that are mediocre and field an ok team every year and still look up into the rafters and see nothing ?
- Pegullaville

Three last place finishes, no playoffs for nine years, a season high of 35 wins and 81 points post-tank and years of dysfunction.

Did I miss anything?

We wouldn’t of had all those draft picks. He would of kept miller and vanek.
- Fattony1187

Miller yes. Vanek I'm not sure of

Three last place finishes, no playoffs for nine years, a season high of 35 wins and 81 points post-tank and years of dysfunction.

Did I miss anything?
- Michael Pachla

I'm with Flacco on this one. Neither should be considered acceptable.

That's not true at all
- gerbe75pts

I went over the last 30 years, but go on

I could have included legwand, or murray or falloon or tverdovsky or zyuzin or lehtonen or bobby ryan

Three last place finishes, no playoffs for nine years, a season high of 35 wins and 81 points post-tank and years of dysfunction.

Did I miss anything?
- Michael Pachla

when did we beat the rangers in the playoffs?

Taking Reinhart over Draisatil is a whiff.

Taking Nolan Patrick over Pettersson, Heiskanan, and Makar is a whiff.

Ron Hextalll and Tim Murray are out of jobs, coincidence ?
- Pegullaville

Patrick was a consensus top-2 pick. Just like Reinhart

Three last place finishes, no playoffs for nine years, a season high of 35 wins and 81 points post-tank and years of dysfunction.

Did I miss anything?
- Michael Pachla

Reinhart sucks, should never have been drafted.

Patrick was a consensus top-2 pick. Just like Reinhart
- Michael Pachla

how many eichels have been drafted #2 overall over the last 40 years?


my guess is well under 20

Reinhart sucks, should never have been drafted.
- IonSabres

oh my