So EK is stating that the league will use a 24 team playoff, and the top six teams from each division will be eligible. This format leaves the Hawks out of the playoffs, is this favorable? On the one hand it gives the Hawks an opportunity to move up in the draft, however it would also be good for the young guys to get some playoff experience. The latter obviously would be good for the young guys, and the former does not guarantee that we move up in the draft. Thoughts?
- Angotti

Zero chance this happens. Makes no sense to have a team like the Rangers who are 9 games above .500 not make it and then let in Anaheim and Buffalo who are both under .500? Either they do 20 teams, or if it's 24 it's by conference and win percentage. This isn't a post to push trying to get the Hawks and Montreal in, but if you're going to do 24 teams, then top 6 in each division is completely stupid based on merit.

So EK is stating that the league will use a 24 team playoff, and the top six teams from each division will be eligible. This format leaves the Hawks out of the playoffs, is this favorable? On the one hand it gives the Hawks an opportunity to move up in the draft, however it would also be good for the young guys to get some playoff experience. The latter obviously would be good for the young guys, and the former does not guarantee that we move up in the draft. Thoughts?
- Angotti

I think the version I placed on these boards are what was the last real notion of the 24 team plan and it was based on making sure Montreal and Chicago viewing markets were in that preliminary exercise...and when has EK been right on a n y t h I n g ?

and...if the plan is for a Draft soon, there will be no reshuffle on slots due to a lucky "playoff win" by some team...

This plan includes a "play-in," that they will to call non-playoff as the idea is to get to the in place 16 playoff teams set in place prior.

Put the Hawks in a 7 team lottery for the draft is much preferred over any tourney they have ZERO chance to win. No matter HOW they format this "New" playoff structure, I hope the Hawks are outside looking in and put in a much more favorable draft position.

Hawks would be out before you could blink, so I would rather be one of the 7 NOT in. Worse case....we get 7th overall pick, any luck at all....maybe top 3 or 5 pick!
- hawk35

Even with the 7th pick, the Hawks could stand to draft a great one with one of Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz, or Raymond.

It's very easy to love 7th more than 9th which was the previous projected slot.

If they get lucky and inch up the draft board, then there's the top guys like Drysdale, Stutzle, and Byfield.

Then of course, if they get super lucky and get the 1st overall, Lafreniere is coming to Chicago.

I think the version I placed on these boards are what was the last real notion of the 24 team plan and it was based on making sure Montreal and Chicago viewing markets were in that preliminary exercise...and when has EK been right on a n y t h I n g ?

and...if the plan is for a Draft soon, there will be no reshuffle on slots due to a lucky "playoff win" by some team...
- wiz1901

Whether they went top 12 per conference or top 6 in division, I think Habs make it either way??? They are 5th in division, and 12th in conference. And even if done point pct...Habs STILL edge out Buffalo. So, I don't see a scenerio (of this 24 team format) where the Habs are left out.

As for the Hawks. Top 6 in Division leaves them out, Top 12 in conference has them in. I would hope they DON'T get in....

The way I understand the thinking is that if they go this 24 team way, the ONLY teams in the draft lottery are the 7 left out. Give me that. I would rather the Hawks out and a guaranteed 7th or better draft pick....and a really good chance at a top 3-4 pick!

Even with the 7th pick, the Hawks could stand to draft a great one with one of Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz, or Raymond.

It's very easy to love 7th more than 9th which was the previous projected slot.

If they get lucky and inch up the draft board, then there's the top guys like Drysdale, Stutzle, and Byfield.

Then of course, if they get super lucky and get the 1st overall, Lafreniere is coming to Chicago.
- AEL_Fox

Yes I would love for them to move to 7 or better .Would prefer a top prospect ,then participating in some Summer School Cup .Were the winner is Crowned Best Fairy Princes

Apologize I did not read the whole article. You lost me at 4M for Markstrom to be a strong 2B to Crawford. For real?? Crawford is five years older and has an injury history that is not enviable. Markstrom has been very solid on a weak Canucks team for the past three seasons. Markstrom over Crawford all day long at 5.5M per on a five year deal. Crawford is done. Move on

For those in the Chicago viewing market, NBC Sports Chicago begins broadcasting each of the 16 wins of the 2013 Cup run tonight at 7 p.m. First game shown is game 1 against Minnesota.

For those in the Chicago viewing market, NBC Sports Chicago begins broadcasting each of the 16 wins of the 2013 Cup run tonight at 7 p.m. First game shown is game 1 against Minnesota.
- boilermaker100

I expect Minny will give the Hawks all they can handle! But, look for our boys to grind out a tough win in a low scoring affair. Go Hawks!!!

Yes I would love for them to move to 7 or better .Would prefer a top prospect ,then participating in some Summer School Cup .Were the winner is Crowned Best Fairy Princes
- oldduffman

I’d be ok with the Hawks sticking at #9 and going on to win the Cup. That works for me.

Edit: If the league goes with a 68 game season the Hawks would draft 8th.

I’d be ok with the Hawks sticking at #9 and going on to win the Cup. That works for me.

Edit: If the league goes with a 68 game season the Hawks would draft 8th.
- DarthKane

Must admit when you put it like that ,it don't seem so bad . Its all a big conspiracy to push the Hawks out of the playoffs and into the 7th pick overall ,where they will grab some can't miss kid (BUST !!) and the team selecting 9th will get the goalie of the Century.!! I can see it now !! . Bettman . And the Leafs will win the Cup in the no contact playoffs , 2020 got to love it ..

Put the Hawks in a 7 team lottery for the draft is much preferred over any tourney they have ZERO chance to win. No matter HOW they format this "New" playoff structure, I hope the Hawks are outside looking in and put in a much more favorable draft position.

Hawks would be out before you could blink, so I would rather be one of the 7 NOT in. Worse case....we get 7th overall pick, any luck at all....maybe top 3 or 5 pick!
- hawk35

Who wants to be part of a 24 team exhibition season anyway? Sad thing is, I'm sure they will still engrave a team on the cup if they finish "this" season and knock a deserving team off the cup from 50 years ago.

Yes I would love for them to move to 7 or better .Would prefer a top prospect ,then participating in some Summer School Cup .Were the winner is Crowned Best Fairy Princes
- oldduffman

There is also a WSJ article about confrontations in stores when a customer belligerently refuses to wear a face mask - and what employees should do about them. There was at least one shooting death of a retail worker when a customer was refused admittance, and several attacks on retail employees.

I post these not to argue against opening up - but to point out that it isn’t just a “go or no-go” decision: for instance, how should probably close to minimum-wage employees handle these kinds of situations?
- StLBravesFan

This is an issue which requires more attention than received today on this board.

You have given valid points. Also today was promising news in the covid19 battlefront; these actually are hand-in- hand go together stories

We overlook the fact that future entertainment events will not be completely safe insofar as guarding against the spread of covid19. If you read the link St LouisBrave provided, then you realize there is an unhealthy situation brewing on two fronts.

Obviously fans are not going to be subject to testing before entering the venue.

So on one front: With possibly thousands in attendance even social distancing is no sure thing as a preventative measure. Again see the link but realize people are moving about frequently to the vending areas. And is there alcohol sales but restrooms closed

Then on another front: follow the developing issue this order.....first you have grave concern to attend (cautious fans stay home) which affects ticket sales. In turn less revenue for teams. A partial solution would be to broadcast ALL games BUT there are existing contracts and teams cannot control the change in the percentage of revenue fans dole out for stay at home broadcast vs in attendance.

I know the Cubs have their own network. I know too that the Yankees (MLB) have a huge yES (name of network). I just do not envision each sport able to control - much less have the rights- to all broadcast revenue. Even if they did, it is not equal to the combined revenue generated by fan attendance. Fan attendance + associated sales from parking, merchandise, food/beverage pushes the ticket revenue amount upward

Yet it is not an upward rather a downward cycle in revenue when fan attendance is down - perhaps significantly down

How do teams sustain revenue loss for the season? How does it impact salary cap? Small market teams impacted worse? Can minor leagues continue as a viable operation?

There is much at stake. Not only our physical/mental health but the complications in the economic health of sports teams. This is an ongoing concern for everyone.

This is an issue which requires more attention than received today on this board.

You have given valid points. Also today was promising news in the covid19 battlefront; these actually are hand-in- hand go together stories

We overlook the fact that future entertainment events will not be completely safe insofar as guarding against the spread of covid19. If you read the link St LouisBrave provided, then you realize there is an unhealthy situation brewing on two fronts.

Obviously fans are not going to be subject to testing before entering the venue.

So on one front: With possibly thousands in attendance even social distancing is no sure thing as a preventative measure. Again see the link but realize people are moving about frequently to the vending areas. And is there alcohol sales but restrooms closed

Then on another front: follow the developing issue this order.....first you have grave concern to attend (cautious fans stay home) which affects ticket sales. In turn less revenue for teams. A partial solution would be to broadcast ALL games BUT there are existing contracts and teams cannot control the change in the percentage of revenue fans dole out for stay at home broadcast vs in attendance.

I know the Cubs have their own network. I know too that the Yankees (MLB) have a huge yES (name of network). I just do not envision each sport able to control - much less have the rights- to all broadcast revenue. Even if they did, it is not equal to the combined revenue generated by fan attend attendance. Fan attendance + associated sales from parking, merchandise, food/beverage pushes the ticket revenue amount upward

Yet it is not an upward rather a downward cycle in revenue when fan attendance is down - perhaps significantly down

How do teams sustain revenue loss for the season? How does it impact salary cap? Small market teams impacted worse? Can minor leagues continue as a viable operation?

There is much at stake. Not only our physical/mental health but the complications in the economic health of sports teams. This is an ongoing concern for everyone.
- jhawk59

That's not necessarily true? I suspect in some major market baseball cities TV is the largest contributor and I bet Football even more so. I have nothing to back this up other than many years ago I read for major market baseball fans were only 29% of the total income. I can't say what that included?

That's not necessarily true? I suspect in some major market baseball cities TV is the largest contributor and I bet Football even more so. I have nothing to back this up other than many years ago I read for major market baseball fans were only 29% of the total income. I can't say what that included?
- rpeters01

Perhaps someone in the know can crunch some numbers and enligjten us exactly the shape of things now and to come

This is an issue which requires more attention than received today on this board.

You have given valid points. Also today was promising news in the covid19 battlefront; these actually are hand-in- hand go together stories

We overlook the fact that future entertainment events will not be completely safe insofar as guarding against the spread of covid19. If you read the link St LouisBrave provided, then you realize there is an unhealthy situation brewing on two fronts.

Obviously fans are not going to be subject to testing before entering the venue.

So on one front: With possibly thousands in attendance even social distancing is no sure thing as a preventative measure. Again see the link but realize people are moving about frequently to the vending areas. And is there alcohol sales but restrooms closed

Then on another front: follow the developing issue this order.....first you have grave concern to attend (cautious fans stay home) which affects ticket sales. In turn less revenue for teams. A partial solution would be to broadcast ALL games BUT there are existing contracts and teams cannot control the change in the percentage of revenue fans dole out for stay at home broadcast vs in attendance.

I know the Cubs have their own network. I know too that the Yankees (MLB) have a huge yES (name of network). I just do not envision each sport able to control - much less have the rights- to all broadcast revenue. Even if they did, it is not equal to the combined revenue generated by fan attendance. Fan attendance + associated sales from parking, merchandise, food/beverage pushes the ticket revenue amount upward

Yet it is not an upward rather a downward cycle in revenue when fan attendance is down - perhaps significantly down

How do teams sustain revenue loss for the season? How does it impact salary cap? Small market teams impacted worse? Can minor leagues continue as a viable operation?

There is much at stake. Not only our physical/mental health but the complications in the economic health of sports teams. This is an ongoing concern for everyone.
- jhawk59

So on the tail of the Last Dance ending, I was wondering.....

Krause caught a lot of hell for "braking (Ogi) up" the team and the dynasty.

Stan(McD) didn't break up the dynasty just kept going.

In the long run, which one was right?

Discuss

So on the tail of the Last Dance ending, I was wondering.....

Krause caught a lot of hell for "braking (Ogi) up" the team and the dynasty.

Stan(McD) didn't break up the dynasty just kept going.

In the long run, which one was right?

Discuss
- vabeachbear

Ignoring, for the moment, Krause’s alienation of Jackson, Jordan, and the team (with Jackson and Jordan’s help):

Both.

And - neither.

It all depends on the ultimate results - which all depends on the competence of the person in charge (Krause and Bowman) and their ability to “get the job done”.

We know Krause didn’t have that ability. He was able to retool after Jordan came back to lead to the “three peat repeat”, building around 23 and 33. But he wasn’t able to rebuild a new championship contender, building around coach Tim Floyd and draft picks like Brand (ok, not bad), Fizer, Curry....Never could convince a top free agent to sign.

We don’t know if Bowman has the ability or not. He should get credit for the retooling that contributed to 2013-15 run, but we don’t know if he can do a more extensive retool around an aging Kane, Toews, Keith.

Ignoring, for the moment, Krause’s alienation of Jackson, Jordan, and the team (with Jackson and Jordan’s help):

Both.

And - neither.

It all depends on the ultimate results - which all depends on the competence of the person in charge (Krause and Bowman) and their ability to “get the job done”.

We know Krause didn’t have that ability. He was able to retool after Jordan came back to lead to the “three peat repeat”, building around 23 and 33. But he wasn’t able to rebuild a new championship contender, building around coach Tim Floyd and draft picks like Brand (ok, not bad), Fizer, Curry....Never could convince a top free agent to sign.

We don’t know if Bowman has the ability or not. He should get credit for the retooling that contributed to 2013-15 run, but we don’t know if he can do a more extensive retool around an aging Kane, Toews, Keith.
- StLBravesFan

In a sport like basketball, where one player can dominate the entire league, it seems to me that when you have the single greatest (arguably anyway) Player in the history of the game...the right decision is to ride that horse as long as possible.

In a sport like basketball, where one player can dominate the entire league, it seems to me that when you have the single greatest (arguably anyway) Player in the history of the game...the right decision is to ride that horse as long as possible.
- Ogilthorpe2

I agree and it makes me laugh how Reinsdorf hid behind Krause being the bad guy. It's all on Reinsdorf for not doing what great owners do.

With Rocky at least to me there is no dysfunctional squabbles within the org and maybe just maybe McD was making a power move and well now he's gone

In a sport like basketball, where one player can dominate the entire league, it seems to me that when you have the single greatest (arguably anyway) Player in the history of the game...the right decision is to ride that horse as long as possible.
- Ogilthorpe2

They should have been given a chance, but I doubt they would have won a championship the next season. Too much drama, too many players needing to get away from it (including Jordan, Rodman and Pippen)....

Krause should take a lot of blame for the break-up, but Reinsdorf should have controlled his GM, Jackson should have controlled his players, and Jordan and Pippen should have controlled their shots at Krause. There was no reason for Krause to continuously say that Jackson was leaving at the end of the season, and no reason for Reinsdorf to let him keep on saying it. And then - for Reinsdorf to “supposedly” ask Jackson to come back - probably knowing that the GOAT coach wouldn’t / couldn’t after all that had gone on....

Too many egos, too little real appreciation for what was accomplished by each and all.

They should have been given a chance, but I doubt they would have won a championship the next season. Too much drama, too many players needing to get away from it (including Jordan, Rodman and Pippen)....

Krause should take a lot of blame for the break-up, but Reinsdorf should have controlled his GM, Jackson should have controlled his players, and Jordan and Pippen should have controlled their shots at Krause. There was no reason for Krause to continuously say that Jackson was leaving at the end of the season, and no reason for Reinsdorf to let him keep on saying it. And then - for Reinsdorf to “supposedly” ask Jackson to come back - probably knowing that the GOAT coach wouldn’t / couldn’t after all that had gone on....

Too many egos, too little real appreciation for what was accomplished by each and all.
- StLBravesFan

I also believe it was the beginning of the end for NBA owners, those smart enough, realize the stars of the NBA had more power and control than the owners did

https://twitter.com/NBCSB.../1262526900154634240?s=09

What a great 8 years

https://twitter.com/NBCSB.../1262499765318823941?s=09

Who wants to be part of a 24 team exhibition season anyway? Sad thing is, I'm sure they will still engrave a team on the cup if they finish "this" season and knock a deserving team off the cup from 50 years ago.
- rpeters01

They can knock off the team that won 49 and 47 years ago......