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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
of course they can do that.
then why are some businesses allowed to be open and some not?
a solid concrete plausible answer would be great. (not from you but in general)

- TheHank



It's more complicated that I want to get into right now, but it suffices to say that in our representative Constitutional democracy, the power to govern everyday issues relating to the common good is vested in the governors. And those governors don't need to exercise perfect logic that everyone agrees with when they adopt rules, they only need to adopt rules that are rationally related to the goals of the legislation. Oh, and the legislation has to have an appropriate, non-discriminatory purpose.

So the summary is they can pass laws that you think are stupid. If you don't like the policies they adopt into law, you can try to change it by voting.

This is why it is critical that we all vote.

I hope this is a solid concrete plausible answer
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 25 @ 8:36 PM ET
*generic inflammatory Jason Botterill comment to steer the conversation away from politics*

Also, my grandpa was in the army air corps in the pacific during dubya dubya two. The other was in Korea. Happy(?) Memorial Day to all the fallen vets

https://youtu.be/uZmxZThb084
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
I was told well before this that the right to enforce "no shirt, no shoes, no service" for example, generally came from the local code level, and some cases even state. It is not from Federal law or the Constitution. Perhaps I have that wrong, but either way, businesses have the right to enforce that.
- buffalofan19


Businesses have the right to adopt policy that are not inconsistent with the State's right to exercise non-discriminatory police powers, and that are not inconsistent with the government's right to regulate interstate commerce.

"No shirt, no shoes, no service" is consistent with both those governing principals.

"Drop your mask or you can't come in" is in flagrant violation of any current state or federal policy
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
Ummm, a few here seem a little confused, and are missing the fact that Hank didn't say, "This corona is bogus and F all of your masks, you ain't gonna force me to wear one!! (spray it as you say it loudly, boy) Corona?? HA!!"
He just said he doesn't need the government to tell him what to do, because he's capable of taking care of himself and his family, all while doing what's right for his community. Lol, turns out that bastard probably has a better mask than any of those here trying to belittle him, or even wishing harm to him (really high class move, that is). Either learn to stop assuming/jumping to conclusions or work on your reading comprehension, preferably both. Not every locale's situations are the same, but some think they should just pass blanket laws for everywhere. Every locale should make their own decision on requiring masks. Where I live it's pretty damn easy to distance myself from others, and a mask is rarely needed. If I lived in newyork city, I'd be wearing one everywhere I went.
You don't get rid of ignorance by having the government pass laws, you get rid of it by educating the ignorant. The true enemy of democracy is ignorance, perhaps that's why the government seems to not give too many poops about the current state of the education system in this country.
Alex the Great
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 25 @ 9:08 PM ET
Oh my god the same people are still bringing up the flu in comparison.

This is priceless

- sbroads24



You seem to be the only person comparing it to the flu. Like if you say it over and over that people are saying that then you can say people are dumb. People don’t think it’s the flu. But they do see the fear porn the media and democrats spewed out are not the apocalypse they portrayed
Alex the Great
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 25 @ 9:10 PM ET
Ummm, a few here seem a little confused, and are missing the fact that Hank didn't say, "This corona is bogus and F all of your masks, you ain't gonna force me to wear one!! (spray it as you say it loudly, boy) Corona?? HA!!"
He just said he doesn't need the government to tell him what to do, because he's capable of taking care of himself and his family, all while doing what's right for his community. Lol, turns out that bastard probably has a better mask than any of those here trying to belittle him, or even wishing harm to him (really high class move, that is). Either learn to stop assuming/jumping to conclusions or work on your reading comprehension, preferably both. Not every locale's situations are the same, but some think they should just pass blanket laws for everywhere. Every locale should make their own decision on requiring masks. Where I live it's pretty damn easy to distance myself from others, and a mask is rarely needed. If I lived in newyork city, I'd be wearing one everywhere I went.
You don't get rid of ignorance by having the government pass laws, you get rid of it by educating the ignorant. The true enemy of democracy is ignorance, perhaps that's why the government seems to not give too many poops about the current state of the education system in this country.

- Ratsreign



Sbroads won’t understand this. He thinks anyone that won’t quiver in their basement scared thinks this is just the flu.

At least he isn’t like some of his fellow voting block wishing death on people and contracting virus
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
But the players don't get money in the playoffs and I don't see any of the players agreeing on this in the future its money for the owners but players get screwed
- gerbe75pts


When i said they’ll get more,
I didn’t mean they’d get paid for the playoffs

I meant that league revenue will go up,
so the salary cap will go up,
so more $$$ spent on player salaries


And if they’re already not getting paid for the playoffs, why would adding more teams matter?
Because they might have to play a couple extra games?
I doubt that would be a tipping point
They’d be happy to have a shot at the Cup even if they gotta play an extra 3-5game series
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
Sbroads won’t understand this. He thinks anyone that won’t quiver in their basement scared thinks this is just the flu.

At least he isn’t like some of his fellow voting block wishing death on people and contracting virus

- Alex the Great




Christ on a buttery, thin cracker
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
If they did that, I wouldn't be opposed. However, in that instance they should shorten the season to 72 games which does a couple of things:

a.) It gives the regular season more meaning
b.) It allows for time after the regular season for the expanded playoffs

Yes, teams will loose revenue for he five regular season home games they lost, but it would behoove organizations to ice as competitive product as possible

- Michael Pachla


Idk that the owners would agree to lose 5 home games worth revenue though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
I thought playoff gate revenue went to the teams
- Michael Pachla


I wasn’t being too clear with some of my posts

More playoff teams means more games, and also more tv markets playing, so a higher tv contract to be split among teams
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 25 @ 9:39 PM ET


Christ on a buttery, thin cracker

- jcragcrumple

mentalorgasm actually did just tell me to die.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
Ummm, a few here seem a little confused, and are missing the fact that Hank didn't say, "This corona is bogus and F all of your masks, you ain't gonna force me to wear one!! (spray it as you say it loudly, boy) Corona?? HA!!"
He just said he doesn't need the government to tell him what to do, because he's capable of taking care of himself and his family, all while doing what's right for his community. Lol, turns out that bastard probably has a better mask than any of those here trying to belittle him, or even wishing harm to him (really high class move, that is). Either learn to stop assuming/jumping to conclusions or work on your reading comprehension, preferably both. Not every locale's situations are the same, but some think they should just pass blanket laws for everywhere. Every locale should make their own decision on requiring masks. Where I live it's pretty damn easy to distance myself from others, and a mask is rarely needed. If I lived in newyork city, I'd be wearing one everywhere I went.
You don't get rid of ignorance by having the government pass laws, you get rid of it by educating the ignorant. The true enemy of democracy is ignorance, perhaps that's why the government seems to not give too many poops about the current state of the education system in this country.

- Ratsreign

thank you.
a mic drop would be prudent here.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 25 @ 9:44 PM ET
It's more complicated that I want to get into right now, but it suffices to say that in our representative Constitutional democracy, the power to govern everyday issues relating to the common good is vested in the governors. And those governors don't need to exercise perfect logic that everyone agrees with when they adopt rules, they only need to adopt rules that are rationally related to the goals of the legislation. Oh, and the legislation has to have an appropriate, non-discriminatory purpose.

So the summary is they can pass laws that you think are stupid. If you don't like the policies they adopt into law, you can try to change it by voting.

This is why it is critical that we all vote.

I hope this is a solid concrete plausible answer

- Der Kaiser

you are correct. but.............
did any of this get passed into law?
was anyone allowed to vote on it?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 25 @ 9:45 PM ET
mentalorgasm actually did just tell me to die.
- TheHank


The Civil War was fought in 10,000 places, from Valverde, New Mexico, and Tullahoma, Tennessee, to St. Albans, Vermont, and Fernandina on the Florida coast. More than 3 million Americans fought in it, and over 600,000 men—2 percent of the population—died in it.

American homes became headquarters, American churches and schoolhouses sheltered the dying, and huge foraging armies swept across American farms and burned American towns. Americans slaughtered one another wholesale, right here in America in their own cornfields and peach orchards, along familiar roads and by waters with old American names.

In two days at Shiloh, on the banks of the Tennessee River, more American men fell than in all the previous American wars combined. At Cold Harbor, some 7,000 Americans fell in 20 minutes. Men who had never strayed 20 miles from their own front doors now found themselves soldiers in great armies, fighting epic battles hundreds of miles from home. They knew they were making history, and it was the greatest adventure of their lives.

The Civil War has been given many names: the War Between the States, the War Against Northern Aggression, the Second American Revolution, the Lost Cause, the War of the Rebellion, the Brothers' War, and the Late Unpleasantness. Walt Whitman called it the War of Attempted Secession. Confederate General Joseph Johnston called it the War Against the States. By whatever name, it was unquestionably the most important event in the life of the nation. It saw the end of slavery and the downfall of a southern planter aristocracy. It was the watershed of a new political and economic order, and the beginning of big industry, big business, and big government. It was the first modern war and, for Americans, the costliest, yielding the most American fatalities and the greatest domestic suffering, both spiritually and physically. It was the most horrible, necessary, intimate, acrimonious, mean-spirited, and heroic conflict the nation has ever known.

Inevitably, we grasp the war through such hyperbole. In so doing, we tend to blur the fact that real people lived through it and were changed by the event. In all, 185,000 black Americans fought to free their people. Fishermen and storekeepers from Deer Isle, Maine, served bravely and died miserably in strange places like Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Fredericksburg, Virginia. There was scarcely a family in the South that did not lose a son or brother or father.

As with any civil strife, the war was marked by excruciating ironies. Robert E. Lee became a legend in the Confederate army only after turning down an offer to command the entire Union force. Four of Abraham Lincoln's own brothers-in-law fought on the Confederate side, and one was killed. The little town of Winchester, Virginia, changed hands 72 times during the war, and the state of Missouri sent 39 regiments to fight in the siege of Vicksburg: 17 to the Confederacy and twenty-two to the Union.

Between 1861 and 1865, Americans made war on each other and killed each other in great numbers—if only to become the kind of country that could no longer conceive of how that was possible. What began as a bitter dispute over Union and states' rights, ended as a struggle over the meaning of freedom in America. At Gettysburg in 1863, Lincoln said perhaps more than he knew. The war was about a "new birth of freedom."


I think everyone should lighten up a bit
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 25 @ 9:45 PM ET
Coming down the mountain...
Everybody has their own opinion
Everybody has
their own opinion
Hurts so bad
holding it back
Jumping out of my flesh...

https://youtu.be/1kAIMlISHhU
Juana's Addicion
Mountain Song
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 9:46 PM ET
Idk that the owners would agree to lose 5 home games worth revenue though
- jdfitz77


they won't, but they should...a minimum of two playoff games would make up a good chunk of the money lost in the regular season and that money goes straight into the owners pocket as there's no split with the players...a third game should be just about break even and a fourth puts them ahead...

at least that's the way I see it unfolding
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
So the draft lottery may still include 15 teams after all.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 25 @ 9:49 PM ET
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1265057311082590215?s=19

Read through the entire thread.

Not. A. Fan. At. All.

- kingcong39

Omg a hockey post - thank you!! I think it would be ridiculous to let in 15 teams into the lottery, including the 8 that were gifted into the playoffs
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 9:51 PM ET
Coming down the mountain...
Everybody has their own opinion
Everybody has
their own opinion
Hurts so bad
holding it back
Jumping out of my flesh...

https://youtu.be/1kAIMlISHhU
Juana's Addicion
Mountain Song

- Ratsreign

Nothing Shocking should be added to the list of top-5 premier debut albums...was lucky enough to catch the first Lollapalooza tour in Orlando..Ice T, Living Color and Siouxsie and the Banshees were with them
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 25 @ 9:51 PM ET
So the draft lottery may still include 15 teams after all.
- Pegullaville


Yeah really stupid. A team gifted their way into the playoffs could get hot, win the cup and win the draft lottery. Makes no sense _ so glad buffalo voted in favor of this if it’s true.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1265057311082590215?s=19

Read through the entire thread.

Not. A. Fan. At. All.

- kingcong39

complicated and inane
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
Nothing Shocking should be added to the list of top-5 premier debut albums...was lucky enough to catch the first Lollapalooza tour in Orlando..Ice T, Living Color and Siouxsie and the Banshees were with them
- Michael Pachla

I almost added it to the list I posted, but wasn't sure if it's their debut, it might be their second? They have a self titled album, I think was a year earlier. I'd have to check, cuz Idk for sure.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
I almost added it, but wasn't sure if it's their debut, might be their second? They have a self titled album, I think was a year earlier. I'd have to check.
- Ratsreign

Just listened to it the other week...first time in a few years...has lost nothing
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
I think everyone should lighten up a bit
- jcragcrumple

I'm "human capital stock"
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 10:19 PM ET
just because:

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