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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
What the heck does this mean? As I stated before, there are certainly better ways to deal with this that what has been done so far. The US was not set up the same way as SK, so their method could not be implemented. That is not to say other avenues couldn't or shouldn't have been used.

Cell tracking is not an easy sell to the American people. Isolation outside the home, which some (not myself) could consider imprisonment, would not be an easy sell either. America is unique in several of the freedoms that are allowed (right, wrong, or otherwise). Asking people to give up some of those freedoms is not trivial.

- Chunk


Thank you for at least saying there were better ways of handling it.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
I would roll with these forward lines:

Saad - Toews - Kubalik
Nylander - Dach - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Carpenter
Hagel - Kampf - Highmore

Unfortunately, Caggiula and Shaw are out as far as I know hence the need to insert youngsters in the bottom 6 so I went with Hagel.

Would love Shaw on that 3rd line if medically cleared. But if Caggiula is ready to go, have him play there then move Carpenter down to 4th line and sit Hagel.

However, to the chagrin of many on these boards, I would also consider Sikura over Hagel.

Sikura would at least be amongst the Black Ace candidates up front with Quenneville, Fortin, Entwistle, and Kurashev. Hagel, too, of course.

- AEL_Fox


I don't know what it is specifically, but that second line just scares me. I don't even know who I would prefer to have there over what you wrote. Maybe I just want a more established 2C there (where have we heard that before?). Strome and Dach (yet) just don't do it for me in that role. Carpenter and Kampf are not going to get it done either.

In related news - I don't have a better solution either.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
I would roll with these forward lines:

Saad - Toews - Kubalik
Nylander - Dach - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Carpenter
Hagel - Kampf - Highmore

Unfortunately, Caggiula and Shaw are out as far as I know hence the need to insert youngsters in the bottom 6 so I went with Hagel.

Would love Shaw on that 3rd line if medically cleared. But if Caggiula is ready to go, have him play there then move Carpenter down to 4th line and sit Hagel.

However, to the chagrin of many on these boards, I would also consider Sikura over Hagel.

Sikura would at least be amongst the Black Ace candidates up front with Quenneville, Fortin, Entwistle, and Kurashev. Hagel, too, of course.

- AEL_Fox


My question is this. By the time the tourney starts, the players will have more time off than they normally do between seasons, they are well rested. first round is 3 outta 5. Would you try and load up 3 lines, use Kampf, Carpenter exclusively as penalty killers, and roll the dice for one round (maybe do that with the defense, rely on what the Hawks believe are the top 4 (Keith, Murphy, DaHaan (hopefully), and Matta (has the experience), use Bovquist on the PP, Carlsson you spot). If your in the play in tourney, might as well go for it.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

May 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Well, yeah. Heck, I fired him twice this morning on principle alone.

I'm interested to see which teams come back the best. Will it be the younger teams (maybe they are able to get their bodies up to speed faster?), or the older teams that just know how to prepare and work more on instinct?

Either way, assuming this 24 team deal is the actual plan they use, I hope the Hawks win as many games as possible. Worry about trades and getting different/better picks in the offseason.

- Chunk

I suspect the high paid vets will treat it as exhibition games.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
It is fun looking into the blue state fishbowl and seeing what all the fish are saying and doing. The rest of us enjoy the entertainment. #stockholmsyndrome.

The live in fear crowd, who collectively elected the tyrants and are compelled to lecture the rest of us on their miss-perception of reality....

Keep hiding under your beds, anyone else pick up on the same formula they dupe the sheep into believing in Global warming is the same fear factor formula used in this nonsense?

Keep contorting yourselves, meanwhile if you want to live in freedom, move south. But leave your dumb politics at the border. Start by correlating the economic health of a state or city with the political philosophy subscribed going back 50 years. 100% fail proof.

Take the risk of being able to exercise self determination as it pertains to your own survival. The irony of lectures coming from ass backwards, broke, corrupt northern states.

Half of America and it sounds like Canada as well, remain afraid of their own shadows.

Would like to keep going, but going to the gym then headed to the beach, after stopping to eat somewhere....

- TrueGrit


Who actually lives in fear? The ones that know change is good for society or the ones that are constantly fearful of any of their supposed rights being taken away?

I mean what harm comes from treating our environment better

I mean even though he really struggled to act, at least he admitted it was an issue, those poor people in Brazil
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
I don't know what it is specifically, but that second line just scares me. I don't even know who I would prefer to have there over what you wrote. Maybe I just want a more established 2C there (where have we heard that before?). Strome and Dach (yet) just don't do it for me in that role. Carpenter and Kampf are not going to get it done either.

In related news - I don't have a better solution either.

- Chunk

To be honest, those 2nd and 3rd lines are iffy to me, too, as far as defensive coverage. Could be great offense but they could also give up as many or more than they score.

Maybe LAHawk is on to something with rolling 3 lines for the opening round given it is a shorter series so there is more to work with as far as defensive consciousness spread out more evenly.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
My question is this. By the time the tourney starts, the players will have more time off than they normally do between seasons, they are well rested. first round is 3 outta 5. Would you try and load up 3 lines, use Kampf, Carpenter exclusively as penalty killers, and roll the dice for one round (maybe do that with the defense, rely on what the Hawks believe are the top 4 (Keith, Murphy, DaHaan (hopefully), and Matta (has the experience), use Bovquist on the PP, Carlsson you spot). If your in the play in tourney, might as well go for it.
- LAHawk

That would be worth considering, or at least starting with 4 F lines and 3 D pairs then shortening the bench in the second half of the game.

Drawing out what you're describing, maybe something like:

Nylander - Toews - Kubalik
Saad - Dach - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Carpenter

Keith - Murphy
Maatta - de Haan

Crawford

Shortening the bench to just 2 F lines:

DeBrincat - Toews - Kane
Saad - Strome/Dach - Kubalik
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
I agree with your point if you look at the states opening their all Republican run and the states who have. Decided to keep these unconstitutional lockdowns going are run by Democrats.

Until the us supreme court steps in and lifts these lockdowns you won't see any sports for awhile.

I'm all for safety but my freedom and liberty are my choice not some governors if people d9nt want to go outside or to work that's their choice but the beauty of freedom is to have a choice.

- Taylorst1


No shoes no shirt, no service, dummy...where did your rights go?

You sound like an idiot.

After hearing from both republicans and democrats in my family being shocked by the fact the grocery stores here have one third of the people saying, "Well, the President is not wearing one!", I decide to carry and extra on and engage all the dummy bunnies and ask did they want my extra, and why they aren't wearing one and THEN TELLING THEM like I am your, I have a RIGHT to not be infected (silent carrier is you?) by your germy ass.
Stay home, because If I see you I am throwing you out of the grocery store, you and the constitution you are hiding behind.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
Hey! Hockey news..

Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie · 1h1 hour ago

It is expected the details of the NHL draft and draft lottery timing/format will be part of today’s big reveal by the NHL on RTP format(s).

scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
So, it took the biggest global pandemic in 100 years to get Colliton into the NHL playoffs.

Change we can believe in!

#FireColliton
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
The Blackhawks chances of advancing very far in this tournament are slim. Therefore I would vote against shortening the bench. Give the young guys playoff experience and confidence. It will be valuable next year if they make the playoffs. If we get eliminated early all the players have more time to get healthy and prepare for the start of next season, whenever that is.

I would play the kids where they had been playing them. Dach 2C. Boqvist top pair with Keith.

Caggiula is an interesting player. If he is good to go he could play on any line and make it better.

DeHaan would be gravy, but I would not rush him.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
So, it took the biggest global pandemic in 100 years to get Colliton into the NHL playoffs.

Change we can believe in!

#FireColliton

- scottak


Or, he got them back to the playoffs in his first full year despite a global pandemic.

#sunshineandrainbows
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

May 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
The Blackhawks chances of advancing very far in this tournament are slim. Therefore I would vote against shortening the bench. Give the young guys playoff experience and confidence. It will be valuable next year if they make the playoffs. If we get eliminated early all the players have more time to get healthy and prepare for the start of next season, whenever that is.

I would play the kids where they had been playing them. Dach 2C. Boqvist top pair with Keith.

Caggiula is an interesting player. If he is good to go he could play on any line and make it better.

DeHaan would be gravy, but I would not rush him.

- -Doh-


Disagree. A hot Crawford and Kane making guys look stupid over a 5 game series can pretty easily get them out of the Edmonton round. Plus Keith will be fresh and even though it may require some maintenance days or limiting minutes to start the 20-21 season he can probably eat close to 30\night.

As long as they don't play the Avs or Blues in the second round they could back pretty deep into the playoffs.

The West is pretty horrid outside of those two teams.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Look at the many people who took the drug and it saved their life and they all came forward to tell their stories. Plenty of doctors have had success, and their has been numerous studies with positive results, most people get a 2nd or 3rd opinion .
- Taylorst1

Numerous studies? Please cite one.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
The Blackhawks chances of advancing very far in this tournament are slim. Therefore I would vote against shortening the bench. Give the young guys playoff experience and confidence. It will be valuable next year if they make the playoffs. If we get eliminated early all the players have more time to get healthy and prepare for the start of next season, whenever that is.

I would play the kids where they had been playing them. Dach 2C. Boqvist top pair with Keith.

Caggiula is an interesting player. If he is good to go he could play on any line and make it better.

DeHaan would be gravy, but I would not rush him.

- -Doh-


i would go with the shortened bench for the first series (3 Outta 5). I think that series is very winnable against Edmonton. If they make it into the sweet 16, go back to the 4 and 3d, as they will probably be playing the #1 seed. The kids will get plenty of playoff experience then. Of course what type of playoff experience will it be? No spectators, no home team advantage, no media spectacle.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 26 @ 3:34 PM ET
i would go with the shortened bench for the first series (3 Outta 5). I think that series is very winnable against Edmonton. If they make it into the sweet 16, go back to the 4 and 3d, as they will probably be playing the #1 seed. The kids will get plenty of playoff experience then. Of course what type of playoff experience will it be? No spectators, no home team advantage, no media spectacle.
- LAHawk


The Hawks already lean pretty heavily on both Toews and Kane. I don't think throwing even more minutes at them is going to change that much. It's not like they have the depth of 2013. There are several guys on this roster that a still trying to adjust to the NHL game itself. I'll go with "run what you brung". Set your lines. Define the roles, and pray the PK holds up.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
To be honest, those 2nd and 3rd lines are iffy to me, too, as far as defensive coverage. Could be great offense but they could also give up as many or more than they score.

Maybe LAHawk is on to something with rolling 3 lines for the opening round given it is a shorter series so there is more to work with as far as defensive consciousness spread out more evenly.

- AEL_Fox

Hawks won’t win on defensive prowess.

Roll the best offensive lines, hope for some defensive responsibility, and the Crawford is outstanding.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

May 26 @ 4:06 PM ET
I would roll with these forward lines:

Saad - Toews - Kubalik
Nylander - Dach - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Carpenter
Hagel - Kampf - Highmore

Unfortunately, Caggiula and Shaw are out as far as I know hence the need to insert youngsters in the bottom 6 so I went with Hagel.

Would love Shaw on that 3rd line if medically cleared. But if Caggiula is ready to go, have him play there then move Carpenter down to 4th line and sit Hagel.

However, to the chagrin of many on these boards, I would also consider Sikura over Hagel.

Sikura would at least be amongst the Black Ace candidates up front with Quenneville, Fortin, Entwistle, and Kurashev. Hagel, too, of course.

- AEL_Fox


I would swap Nylander and Saad, gives you a little more defense on the second line and a little more playmaking on the 1st line. Saad Dach Kane could be deadly!
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

May 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
Who would you pair him with to be the most productive? I want to believe that ADB, Dach, Kane would be a good line, but I just see them getting pinned in their own end for long stretches. Kind of like when they were with Strome, but not quite as bad.
- Chunk

Nylander dach kane. I know not very good as far as defense but let other lines do that.
Dcat strome Caggulia
Saad toews kubalik
Hagel carpenter highmore
Just spit balling at what the lines could look like.
Plus all depends on the health of smith and shaw who should not play another game imo.
D pairings
Keith boqvist
Matta murphy
Dehann if healthy koko who else plays doubt Seabrook would be ready probably not until late October middle of November for him.
Crawford
Suppan


Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
Looks like we are going to have the 24 team tourney. Hawks are in. Let's go
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
FYI, Bettman is on NBCSNC rn
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
The Blackhawks chances of advancing very far in this tournament are slim. Therefore I would vote against shortening the bench. Give the young guys playoff experience and confidence. It will be valuable next year if they make the playoffs. If we get eliminated early all the players have more time to get healthy and prepare for the start of next season, whenever that is.

I would play the kids where they had been playing them. Dach 2C. Boqvist top pair with Keith.

Caggiula is an interesting player. If he is good to go he could play on any line and make it better.

DeHaan would be gravy, but I would not rush him.

- -Doh-

My preference is to start with the traditional 4 F lines and 3 D pairs, then shorten the bench as needed depending on how each game is going.

Get the kids some experience but lean on the veterans when it matters most in key situations and when in desperation mode.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
Hub cities under consideration: Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Minnesota Pittsburgh, Toronto, Vancouver, Vegas.
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 26 @ 4:49 PM ET
You are correct - no one at any level of government should be praised for their response, especially early on.

But White House personnel had national security information about the coming pandemic in January - either the President didn't see it (he is known for not paying much attention to the Daily Briefings and other intelligence that he doesn't come up with himself) or he chose to ignore it.

Other politicians - blue and red - probably ignored the information, too. But this is the President - the leader of the country - the one person in the country who has the most, and the most recent, information available - who should have been directing his administration by the end of January to make sure that as much as possible, those advising him understood the situation and reported back to him with recommendations.

That didn't happen.

- StLBravesFan


The WHO did not declare the virus a healthcare emergency until 1/30. Trump closed the borders on 1/31, and was called a racist and xenophobe for doing so. It doesn't matter what he does, orange man bad.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
The Hawks already lean pretty heavily on both Toews and Kane. I don't think throwing even more minutes at them is going to change that much. It's not like they have the depth of 2013. There are several guys on this roster that a still trying to adjust to the NHL game itself. I'll go with "run what you brung". Set your lines. Define the roles, and pray the PK holds up.
- Chunk

I'm thinking the same thing. Teams often shorten benches as games progress anyway so that would be the natural time to do it.

The playoffs is also a war of attrition so it may not be good to wear down your top players so quickly.

The role players at minimum need to help munch minutes, play consistent D, and wear down the opposition (physically and mentally).
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