A all day
- TheMussel

and B all night

do some of you remember Wonder Woman outfit?

I do which was a reason I watched to show.

B for me!
- dmnted

Back in the day, we referenced the “gap” when speaking of Wonder Woman. Seems very rude and out of place now, but...
No other quite like her.

If it would have been a black cop, would it still be called racism?
what if the victim was some asian dude? still racism?
if the victim would have been a white guy - all of a sudden that's 'normal' police brutality?
what if the victim had been a woman - then a clear case of mysogeny?

fact is there was a clear case of police brutality.
the rest is all speculation until some additional facts become available.
- MaximusAurelius

It could be. Because there's no systemic and constant example of it happening, it would have to be investigated. Because in the the US there is a system and constant (constant, constant, constant) bombardment of white police officers committing egregious acts of assault on black people, it's hard to argue.

From my perspective, the most racist person I ever met was my friend's dad. He said the worst things I have ever heard ("I love the idea of smashing a j*boo / n* / p*m*key with my club and watching him fall" <-- he would say this poop to us when we were about 12, and one of our friends was black) and he was a cop in Etobicoke.

Do I believe there's a problem with authority and the impoverished? I very much do.

If it would have been a black cop, would it still be called racism?
what if the victim was some asian dude? still racism?
if the victim would have been a white guy - all of a sudden that's 'normal' police brutality?
what if the victim had been a woman - then a clear case of mysogeny?

fact is there was a clear case of police brutality.
the rest is all speculation until some additional facts become available.
- MaximusAurelius

The answer to all these questions is context. It was police brutality and white on black. It is extremely valid to raise the racism question.

Your other scenarios do not have nearly the same historical context to draw on or force the question.

I am going to assume you were going for humor here. That question was never asked.
Boobs in spandex were not shown.
- Aetherial

Maybe today, with Linda Carter, it should have been.

Such a missed opportunity.

Did the piece of poop actually get fired?
- Fakepartofme

His employer issued a statement:

XYC Corporation cannot condone the playing of Lee Greenwood.

It could be. Because there's no systemic and constant example of it happening, it would have to be investigated. Because in the the US there is a system and constant (constant, constant, constant) bombardment of white police officers committing egregious acts of assault on black people, it's hard to argue.

From my perspective, the most racist person I ever met was my friend's dad. He said the worst things I have ever heard ("I love the idea of smashing a j*boo / n* / p*m*key with my club and watching him fall" <-- he would say this poop to us when we were about 12, and one of our friends was black) and he was a cop in Etobicoke.

Do I believe there's a problem with authority and the impoverished? I very much do.
- Monkeypunk

I actually share this viewpoint - and there is unfortunately quite a big overlap between some ethnic groups.

You cant make this stuff up...its already there

https://twitter.com/reade...tatus/1265460928226775046

If it would have been a black cop, would it still be called racism?
what if the victim was some asian dude? still racism?
if the victim would have been a white guy - all of a sudden that's 'normal' police brutality?
what if the victim had been a woman - then a clear case of mysogeny?

fact is there was a clear case of police brutality.
the rest is all speculation until some additional facts become available.
- MaximusAurelius

I know you like to stir things up but these are silly questions.

This single case is police brutality and very likely criminal - manslaughter, criminal negligence causing death, whatever. That's true regardless of race, sex or any other factor and at this point you can't draw any real conclusions about specific racial animus about this specific cop and his specific actions.

The question of racism is, as you said before, a question of context. A lot of people, me included, think that the US has become (or is more openly) a racist society and that this gives more license for cops to behave this way in their treatment of blacks. It's n to just in those blacks that are killed but in what you hear from many blacks from all social economic groups about their dealing with the police.

In my mind, this killing is racist.

The answer to all these questions is context. It was police brutality and white on black. It is extremely valid to raise the racism question.

our other scenarios do not have nearly the same historical context to draw on or force the question.
- Aetherial

apparently this is mr knee murderer

apparently this is mr knee murderer


- senstroll

Put hin Cabinet

Put hin Cabinet
- Canada Cup

What the hell is on his forehead? Is that black head?

Maybe today, with Linda Carter, it should have been.

Such a missed opportunity.
- Atomic Wedgie

I hear ya Wedgie. She certainly was, uh, appreciated for her assets back in the day.

I hated when I saw this matchup because Famke Janssen is top-5 for me but I am certainly old enough to remember Linda Carter in that outfit. Looking for pictures of the women it really was apparent that Linda Carter would have benefited from a less strict choice.

If we go back to the singers bracket, it was not until the final that I picked one really provocative picture of each, maybe NSFW.

Most of these women have many NSFW pictures that are public domain. I don't think it would have been appropriate for this board.

Personally, my best "yardstick" is a black and white face shot or a black dress, "red-carpet" (Let's not have any carpet and drapes comments) shot. Neither is overtly sexual.

Here is today's matchup A or B


- Aetherial

A

I know you like to stir things up but these are silly questions.

This single case is police brutality and very likely criminal - manslaughter, criminal negligence causing death, whatever. That's true regardless of race, sex or any other factor and at this point you can't draw any real conclusions about specific racial animus about this specific cop and his specific actions.

The question of racism is, as you said before, a question of context. A lot of people, me included, think that the US has become (or is more openly) a racist society and that this gives more license for cops to behave this way in their treatment of blacks. It's n to just in those blacks that are killed but in what you hear from many blacks from all social economic groups about their dealing with the police.

In my mind, this killing is racist.
- Canada Cup

I was asking because I am genuinely interested in the 'feel' of whether US is indeed a racist country, or whether this could potentially be as well an issue of how the country treats marginalized groups and the poor in general. I am referring to people with less to no access to proper healthcare and education, low salaried jobs, bad housing, low quality food, etc. etc.

From an outside perspective, the US society focus is almost solely on $ -- and those that lack financial means are stripped of basic human rights.

I am not saying this is not a case of racism (surely think that's a big factor) but I feel that if this same guy would have been driving around in a Porsche and a fancy suit, the police brutality would not have happened..

apparently this is mr knee murderer


- senstroll

Is it the same guy?

https://twitter.com/reade...65488099603341314/photo/1

I know you like to stir things up but these are silly questions.

This single case is police brutality and very likely criminal - manslaughter, criminal negligence causing death, whatever. That's true regardless of race, sex or any other factor and at this point you can't draw any real conclusions about specific racial animus about this specific cop and his specific actions.

The question of racism is, as you said before, a question of context. A lot of people, me included, think that the US has become (or is more openly) a racist society and that this gives more license for cops to behave this way in their treatment of blacks. It's n to just in those blacks that are killed but in what you hear from many blacks from all social economic groups about their dealing with the police.

In my mind, this killing is racist.
- Canada Cup

We need to build a wall...or a moat like the Niagara river.

What the hell is on his forehead? Is that black head?
- Woderwick

Also known as a shadow?

I know you like to stir things up but these are silly questions.

This single case is police brutality and very likely criminal - manslaughter, criminal negligence causing death, whatever. That's true regardless of race, sex or any other factor and at this point you can't draw any real conclusions about specific racial animus about this specific cop and his specific actions.

The question of racism is, as you said before, a question of context. A lot of people, me included, think that the US has become (or is more openly) a racist society and that this gives more license for cops to behave this way in their treatment of blacks. It's n to just in those blacks that are killed but in what you hear from many blacks from all social economic groups about their dealing with the police.

In my mind, this killing is racist.
- Canada Cup

It's just an angrier society.

Yeah, definitely race, but also class, politics, simple human interactions - everyone is much, much angrier.

The lack of social cohesion is frightening.

Is it the same guy?

https://twitter.com/reade...65488099603341314/photo/1
- Canada Cup

We should probably let journalists do their job and not feed the twitter bots that sow disinformation and social chaos

I was asking because I am genuinely interested in the 'feel' of whether US is indeed a racist country, or whether this could potentially be as well an issue of how the country treats marginalized groups and the poor in general. I am referring to people with less to no access to proper healthcare and education, low salaried jobs, bad housing, low quality food, etc. etc.

From an outside perspective, the US society focus is almost solely on $ -- and those that lack financial means are stripped of basic human rights.

I am not saying this is not a case of racism (surely think that's a big factor) but I feel that if this same guy would have been driving around in a Porsche and a fancy suit, the police brutality would not have happened..
- MaximusAurelius

I can tell you that my brother in law, born and lives in Chicago, is strongly democratic and is very sensitive and upset about the racism in the U.S. right now. I believe him when he suggests that the country's choice of president has something to do with that.

Also known as a shadow?
- Monkeypunk

Lol....oh.

Weird looking shadow, though.

I can tell you that my brother in law, born and lives in Chicago, is strongly democratic and is very sensitive and upset about the racism in the U.S. right now. I believe him when he suggests that the country's choice of president has something to do with that.
- Aetherial

The sudden uptick of people telling non-white people to go back to their country and chanting "build the wall" to their faces right after the last election might be correlated to that somehow.

It's just an angrier society.

Yeah, definitely race, but also class, politics, simple human interactions - everyone is much, much angrier.

The lack of social cohesion is frightening.
- Atomic Wedgie

The Trump election really divided the US more than they already were divided. The pandemic is just piling on the fuel for people's frustrations.

It's just an angrier society.

Yeah, definitely race, but also class, politics, simple human interactions - everyone is much, much angrier.

The lack of social cohesion is frightening.
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't know how they heal that nation. They are so divided and so hateful. Neither the left nor the right even seem to have a common ground anymore. Everyone except the top x% are feeling disenfranchised, and their ideology seems to prevent them from helping themselves.

I find in Canada that there are political extremists - particularly, obviously, between the Conservatives and the Liberals - but _typically_ there's an understanding of why certain policies exist under different parties.

It doesn't have to resort to - all Liberals are socialists who know nothing about money and want to give the country away and all Conservatives are Nazis who hate non-whites and want to give all the money to the rich.

The fact that both are completely true is irrelevant.

But in the States the hate has been fermenting for so long, it's hard to see that getting better. Donald Trump is not the cause, he's just an enabler; a voice for the anger that's been there and growing for decades.