hi alex/beady


hope you got a good lawyer



- homiedclown

I have a very racist lawyer, yes.

In short, numbers not worth shutting down an economy for, especially considering when it comes to covid deaths, comorbidities have been thrown out the window.
- buffalofan19

I'm curious what data you're hoping to see and what point you're trying to make?

Do you think jbotts really reads or cares about hockeybuzz posters and their views?

1% of me still is hoping that this was the "10 year plan" and it's going as scheduled.

Jack's best 6 years should be ahead of him
Dahlin about to separate from the league.

Bogo deal done
Okposo deal buyoutable

Only 4 forwards signed heading into next year?
Eichel
Skinner
Johansson
Okposo

Is this right?
- Boss34

No, of course Botts doesn't care about HB, nor should he...yet, HB is not the single point of Sabres discussion, right?

All those points look accurate as positioned by you, sure.

Flip side:
Do you believe he will Buyout Okposo without an Amnesty Buyout? If so, is there something tangible you can point to where Botts has executed a Buyout?

Do you have high confidence that he will be able to execute the necessary trades and FA signings necessary for proper roster reconstruction? If so, can you point to anything in the last 3 years that supports your thoughts?

He overpaid for Skinner's contract big-time...to the point it could be far worse of a boat anchor than Okposo playing on the 4th line.
He wasted assets bringing in Frolik and Simmonds, which caused an unnecessary Overage Carry-over.
He has failed to acquire a 2C, 2RW and more by refusing to trade viable chips to improve the team, while overloading the LW and RhD positions...very, very poor asset management.

Will he overpay Reinhart, Olofsson, Montour, Kahun, Ullmark and other R/UFA's?
Will he bring in more unproductive slugs like Vesey, Sherry, Frolik, Simmonds, Hutton and overpaid players at their positions like Mojo and Miller?
Will he completely blunder major trades like ROR and Kane?

Not going to lie, the ability to roll right out of bed and start working is kind of nice. Fact of the matter, though, is, people like me who have that luxury are a minority.
- buffalofan19

I would have agreed prior to the pandemic, but I think there's a paradigm shift happening.

My company, for example, had 90% of the staff needing to be in the office, as the bulk of it is call center work.

Since the middle of April, we now have less than 30% of that staff in the office as the rest are now working from home with desktops and other equipment/programs.

I'm not saying it's a majority, or even half, but things are changing re: working from home.

No, of course Botts doesn't care about HB, nor should he...yet, HB is not the single point of Sabres discussion, right?

All those points look accurate as positioned by you, sure.

Flip side:
Do you believe he will Buyout Okposo without an Amnesty Buyout? If so, is there something tangible you can point to where Botts has executed a Buyout?

Do you have high confidence that he will be able to execute the necessary trades and FA signings necessary for proper roster reconstruction? If so, can you point to anything in the last 3 years that supports your thoughts?

He overpaid for Skinner's contract big-time...to the point it could be far worse of a boat anchor than Okposo playing on the 4th line.
He wasted assets bringing in Frolik and Simmonds, which caused an unnecessary Overage Carry-over.
He has failed to acquire a 2C, 2RW and more by refusing to trade viable chips to improve the team, while overloading the LW and RhD positions...very, very poor asset management.

Will he overpay Reinhart, Olofsson, Montour, Kahun, Ullmark and other R/UFA's?
Will he bring in more unproductive slugs like Vesey, Sherry, Frolik, Simmonds, Hutton and overpaid players at their positions like Mojo and Miller?
Will he completely blunder major trades like ROR and Kane?
- IonSabres

Solid ion

I was a huge fan of botts, it's just not playing out.

Hard to say in regards to drafting : casey is questionable at this point

The trades for frolic and simmons were/are very bad. He was trying to add some nhl veteran playoff experience for cheap.

Vesey was pretty much as expected
Scandella trade is terrible x 2
Skinner trade was great, contract horrible

Overall I'd give him a solid D+.

This is a very important offseason, not sure if I trust him to hold the future.

48 Animals Discovered in Cave Sealed Off for 5.5 Million Years

Jesus for the love of god nuke it before we have a Cloverfield....

https://www.google.com/am...for-5-5-million-years/amp

As long we we hit on this years pick and Eichel doesn’t force his way out. We’ll be more then ok.

No, of course Botts doesn't care about HB, nor should he...yet, HB is not the single point of Sabres discussion, right?

All those points look accurate as positioned by you, sure.

Flip side:
Do you believe he will Buyout Okposo without an Amnesty Buyout? If so, is there something tangible you can point to where Botts has executed a Buyout?

Do you have high confidence that he will be able to execute the necessary trades and FA signings necessary for proper roster reconstruction? If so, can you point to anything in the last 3 years that supports your thoughts?

He overpaid for Skinner's contract big-time...to the point it could be far worse of a boat anchor than Okposo playing on the 4th line.
He wasted assets bringing in Frolik and Simmonds, which caused an unnecessary Overage Carry-over.
He has failed to acquire a 2C, 2RW and more by refusing to trade viable chips to improve the team, while overloading the LW and RhD positions...very, very poor asset management.

Will he overpay Reinhart, Olofsson, Montour, Kahun, Ullmark and other R/UFA's?
Will he bring in more unproductive slugs like Vesey, Sherry, Frolik, Simmonds, Hutton and overpaid players at their positions like Mojo and Miller?
Will he completely blunder major trades like ROR and Kane?
- IonSabres

Yes, he will overpay all of them, his track record here says exactly that.
He overpaid for eichel and skinner and essentially (by not going more years) is overpaying for sam. That skinner contract is gawd awful... I’d buy him out before okposo at this point. I really hope he trades sam and doesn’t give him 8mx8 or something crazy. Does anyone really believe he won’t overpay him on this deal if he signs him? And yes, he overpaid eichel at the time. I think he’s worth the ten million per right now after this season he just had but he did not have to give him that much 2 years ago when he did. Look at the comps. I think 8 or 8.5 (draisaitl $) should have gotten it done 2 years ago.

As long we we hit on this years pick and Eichel doesn’t force his way out. We’ll be more then ok.
- Pegullaville

We still don’t know if we hit on last years pick.

Before you call it out I’ll remind you that mitts looked amazing at the wjc tourney after his draft year and looks bustishly sluggish now.

So if this years pick pans out 3 years from now we will be ok? I just begged to differ.

Yes, he will overpay all of them, his track record here says exactly that.
He overpaid for eichel and skinner and essentially (by not going more years) is overpaying for sam. That skinner contract is gawd awful... I’d buy him out before okposo at this point. I really hope he trades sam and doesn’t give him 8mx8 or something crazy. Does anyone really believe he won’t overpay him on this deal if he signs him? And yes, he overpaid eichel at the time. I think he’s worth the ten million per right now after this season he just had but he did not have to give him that much 2 years ago when he did. Look at the comps. I think 8 or 8.5 (draisaitl $) should have gotten it done 2 years ago.
- TheHank

Why is Eichel at $10M overpaid ? In a few years that’s gonna be the new “Mackinnon is only making $6.3M” Buffalo version.

Matthews got 11.6 and signed for 3 less years.

He is making $2.5M less than McDavid.

I think $10M is fair value, neither overpaid nor underpaid.

Never talking, just keeps walking
Spreading his magic
https://youtu.be/QzP5C8YLd-Y

48 Animals Discovered in Cave Sealed Off for 5.5 Million Years

Jesus for the love of god nuke it before we have a Cloverfield....

https://www.google.com/am...for-5-5-million-years/amp
- gerbe75pts

It’s been open for 34 years. How old are you again? Meh.

We still don’t know if we hit on last years pick.

Before you call it out I’ll remind you that mitts looked amazing at the wjc tourney after his draft year and looks bustishly sluggish now.

So if this years pick pans out 3 years from now we will be ok? I just begged to differ.
- TheHank

Mitts had very underwhelming advanced statistics and college stats. I think the small WJC sample size fooled everyone (including myself as I was very bullish on him to be hot out of the gate also).

Mitts should have spent one more year on College then made the jump this year, it at least would have given him a better shot to improve his craft

Cozens is a much better prospect then Mittelstadt ever was. Perhaps he does not start in the middle and plays the wing to get his feet wet but he’s got the makings to be a very good versatile top 6 forward regardless of where he ultimately ends up playing.

Thanks for posting, as it us good to read these things for nuggets of info.

That said, it was one of the worst articles I have read...
Clerical errors
-Pilut listed 3 times as RFA
-Lazar listed in both RFA and UFA sections
Content
- purely opinion with little given to justify said opinion
- didn't put anything into perspective ; like where does he see Simmonds playing, same with Vesey

Not directed at you, I do appreciate you posting.
- IonSabres

I agree and if this was posted by some beat writers I would overlook but it came from a usually reputable source.
It’s still a good read but like i said before, way too conservative and Pilot is not coming back from the KHL. He will have some success there and they will throw money at him.
I also don’t like the mention of Larsson and girgs are must keeps

Vesey in the cheap, say 2 year bridge deal
At 2mil per year I’m game
Simmonds, only because we need the toughness. 10-12 min per game 3rd or 4th line
Sam yes, 6,7 years 5.5-6.5 range
Lazar yes, same range as Vesey
The rest of the UFA should be gone hopefully

Why is Eichel at $10M overpaid ? In a few years that’s gonna be the new “Mackinnon is only making $6.3M” Buffalo version.

Matthews got 11.6 and signed for 3 less years.

He is making $2.5M less than McDavid.

I think $10M is fair value, neither overpaid nor underpaid.
- Pegullaville

Look at his production pre signing that contract.

I think he’s worth it now but not then. That’s an overpayment. Plain and simple.

Also, look at mcdavids production pre contract. You can see the difference.

58pts for ten million..... cmon.

Mitts had very underwhelming advanced statistics and college stats. I think the small WJC sample size fooled everyone (including myself as I was very bullish on him to be hot out of the gate also).

Mitts should have spent one more year on College then made the jump this year, it at least would have given him a better shot to improve his craft

Cozens is a much better prospect then Mittelstadt ever was. Perhaps he does not start in the middle and plays the wing to get his feet wet but he’s got the makings to be a very good versatile top 6 forward regardless of where he ultimately ends up playing.
- Pegullaville

I’m just being realistic dude. Can you honestly say without a doubt that Cozens is going to be great? It’s rhetorical, everyone knows the answer, it’s no.

Look at his production pre signing that contract.

I think he’s worth it now but not then. That’s an overpayment. Plain and simple.

Also, look at mcdavids production pre contract. You can see the difference.

58pts for ten million..... cmon.
- TheHank

The entire league thought Chirelli was smoking cheap drugs when Draisatil got $8.5M and that turned out great.

We were always paying for Eichel’s prime with that deal not what he had produced up until that date.

I’m just being realistic dude. Can you honestly say without a doubt that Cozens is going to be great? It’s rhetorical, everyone knows the answer, it’s no.
- TheHank

I’m not going to write the kid off either though just because another prospect has struggled at the NHL level either.

Time will tell of course like you said, I’m going to remain optimistic.

The entire league thought Chirelli was smoking cheap drugs when Draisatil got $8.5M and that turned out great.

We were always paying for Eichel’s prime with that deal not what he had produced up until that date.
- Pegullaville

We're Lucky eichel signed that contract.
10 million for eichel is the least of our worries.

That's less than a moulson/bogo/okposo pick 2

Skinner for 1 million less and 1 more year, that's bad.

Shout out Tony.

Look at his production pre signing that contract.

I think he’s worth it now but not then. That’s an overpayment. Plain and simple.

Also, look at mcdavids production pre contract. You can see the difference.

58pts for ten million..... cmon.
- TheHank

It was 57 points, but it was also in only 61 games.

Overall, Eichel's contract was always about being a quality deal for the life of the deal, not what he was quote unquote worth at the time.

Would you rather have paid him $8.5M per for 2 years and be paying him $12M-$13M on an 8 year deal coming up?

We still don’t know if we hit on last years pick.

Before you call it out I’ll remind you that mitts looked amazing at the wjc tourney after his draft year and looks bustishly sluggish now.

So if this years pick pans out 3 years from now we will be ok? I just begged to differ.
- TheHank

I'll remind you that every single player is different in terms of their progression rates.

How Mittelstadt has played and produces has no meaning as to how Cozens will play and produce next year.

The entire league thought Chirelli was smoking cheap drugs when Draisatil got $8.5M and that turned out great.

We were always paying for Eichel’s prime with that deal not what he had produced up until that date.
- Pegullaville

You are spot on here, and it the way it should be, future pay for future production.
The NHL changed significantly last offseason with some of the RFA signing mega deals.
Now, they need to complete the change by breaking the tradition for paying on past performance especially for aging vets in their declining years.

I'll remind you that every single player is different in terms of their progression rates.

How Mittelstadt has played and produces has no meaning as to how Cozens will play and produce next year.
- kingcong39

Very true.
There are some learnings one should note based on Tage and Mitts rather slower development ... that it is best to NOT count on a fast and steady development curve and therefore ink in the player to a critical roster position. It must be earned.

RFA's
Reinhart - use as trade bait
Montour - use as trade bait, resign at 4 × $4.25m
Kahun - resign at 4 x $2.85m
Olofsson - resign 5 x $4.5m
Ullmark - resign at 3 x $2.25m
Lazar - resign at 3 x $1.1m

UFA's
Simmonds - let walk
Frolik - let walk
Girgensons - let walk
Larson - resign at 2 x $1.9m IF Compliance Buyout approved (used on Okposso)
Vesey - resign at 2 x $2.35m

Trade Candidates
Reinhart
Mojo
Montour
Risto
Miller
Thompson
Mittlestadt

Trade Targets
2C: Dylan Strome
1RW: Alex Tuch
2RW: Josh Anderson
3C: Nick Bonino

UFA Targets
LhD: Dylan DeMelo
RhD: Travis Hamonic / Radco Gudas
G: Aaron Dell

Skinner - Eichel - Tuch
Olofsson - Strome - Josh Anderson
Kahun - Bonino - Cozens
Vesey - Lazar - Okposo/Larson

Dahlin - Hamonic/Gudas
DeMelo - Risto/Montour
McCabe - Joker

Ullmark
A Dell.

I would think that gets the Boys into the PO picture