That said, there sure are questionable or worse members of society....like in all countries. .
- IonSabres

Fixed.

That's not accurate. We have the Buffalo Peacemakers here that do great work.

Fwiw, I dont really see this as a race issue. What we're seeing is a reaction to inequality in all forms.. Poverty is the root cause of violence and crime, and black people face higher levels of poverty. Making a difference in economic inequality is the way out of this. How to do that? No idea, that's above my pay grade
- jcragcrumple

Sorry Jcrag, this is a leftist talking point that is also a fabrication. Blacks commit higher amounts of crime at every income level than white people. The wealthiest blacks commit more crime than the poorest whites.

If we want to address the problems facing the country, we need to be honest about them.

Sorry Jcrag, this is a leftist talking point that is also a fabrication. Blacks commit higher amounts of crime at every income level than white people. The wealthiest blacks commit more crime than the poorest whites.

If we want to address the problems facing the country, we need to be honest about them.
- BareMetal

I'd love to see the statistical figures here.

Yes, like any other organization. To attack cops for the actions of some is so ignorant. We are humans too. Hundreds of police hurt this weekend, some serious. A security officer (who was black) shot and killed for doing his job. Disgusting. Media wanted division and everyone fell for it.
- Fattony1187

Tony, why are police officers being ordered to stand down? They watch rioters light their vehicles on fire in Philly. This is a coup by the dems. Cover and economic downturn wasn’t enough to not get Trump re-elected. They want absolute chaos. Good citizens of Philly starting to guard stores from Da Cashmans, I mean scum of the world.

60% of America is white - and have 20-30% fewer encounters with police.
- BareMetal

The data I was using was from 2016 I think. I could go back and find the link but it's not really necessary. Using your data, it's about 4x instead of 5x.

I think most of us agree there is a correlation between income and violence. Considering the racial divide in median household income by race, we can expect increased crime and increased incarceration.

https://www.epi.org/blog/...wth-in-household-incomes/

I posted that article earlier about how black people are far more likely per capita to die from a police encounter. It is definitely true that as a black person, you are more likely to die that way.

To what you attribute these numbers is a function of why you think the income disparity exists. At least in my mind that's the real issue.

If you think that black people are just more violent by nature, I dont think we can have a conversation

Anyone like No Shoes Radio on Sirius XM? This country could use a lot of it right now.

The data I was using was from 2016 I think. I could go back and find the link but it's not really necessary. Using your data, it's about 4x instead of 5x.

I think most of us agree there is a correlation between income and violence. Considering the racial divide in median household income by race, we can expect increased crime and increased incarceration.

https://www.epi.org/blog/...wth-in-household-incomes/

I posted that article earlier about how black people are far more likely per capita to die from a police encounter. It is definitely true that as a black person, you are more likely to die that way.

To what you attribute these numbers is a function of why you think the income disparity exists. At least in my mind that's the real issue.

If you think that black people are just more violent by nature, I dont think we can have a conversation
- jcragcrumple

I'm reading the study now, so won't comment on it yet, but in looking at the biography of the two authors it's rather obvious both of them write politics disguised as economics. When every paper you write has one focus, you stop being an objective researcher and start being someone with an ax to grind.

Anyone like No Shoes Radio on Sirius XM? This country could use a lot of it right now.
- TheSabresTaco

Gross

Tony, why are police officers being ordered to stand down? They watch rioters light their vehicles on fire in Philly. This is a coup by the dems. Cover and economic downturn wasn’t enough to not get Trump re-elected. They want absolute chaos. Good citizens of Philly starting to guard stores from Da Cashmans, I mean scum of the world.
- Hatboro_Swords

Democratic leaders telling us to.

The data I was using was from 2016 I think. I could go back and find the link but it's not really necessary. Using your data, it's about 4x instead of 5x.

I think most of us agree there is a correlation between income and violence. Considering the racial divide in median household income by race, we can expect increased crime and increased incarceration.

https://www.epi.org/blog/...wth-in-household-incomes/

I posted that article earlier about how black people are far more likely per capita to die from a police encounter. It is definitely true that as a black person, you are more likely to die that way.

To what you attribute these numbers is a function of why you think the income disparity exists. At least in my mind that's the real issue.

If you think that black people are just more violent by nature, I dont think we can have a conversation
- jcragcrumple

That's not a link to a study, it's a single webpage

That's not a link to a study, it's a single webpage
- lacaprup

I was talking about this research article I posted a couple pages back.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Democratic leaders telling us to.
- Fattony1187

Thank you for your service. I’m sorry you are subjected to hate because of a few powertripping dirtbags and some others that aren’t willing to stand up and do the right thing. I’m disgusted at what I saw allowed to happen so close to the Whitehouse. I don’t care who is living there. It is not right. What’s it going to take, a bomb going off? My god, that is where we’re heading.

Thank you for your service. I’m sorry you are subjected to hate because of a few powertripping dirtbags and some others that aren’t willing to stand up and do the right thing. I’m disgusted at what I saw allowed to happen so close to the Whitehouse. I don’t care who is living there. It is not right. What’s it going to take, a bomb going off? My god, that is where we’re heading.
- Hatboro_Swords

To clarify dem leaders. Not my town. Our leader has been very supportive

Gross

- jochfr

Looting their own businesses and employers doesn’t help.
- Alex the Great

And solves nothing.

It actually hinders their community as business don’t rebuild and any support they may have gotten about the issue at hand goes away.

It ends up being “see, this is why”.

It’s very sad.

Make it the Eric Lindros trade. And I'll listen.
- TheSabresTaco

The issue with the Lindros trade is they had pieces in place already.

Sakic
Sundin(who was moved)
Owen Nolan (who was moved)

Yes the Lindros trade help facilitate them winning cups but, them having those other pieces helped tremendously.

Without Sakic, I don’t see them winning cups.

And solves nothing.

It actually hinders their community as business don’t rebuild and any support they may have gotten about the issue at hand goes away.

It ends up being “see, this is why”.

It’s very sad.
- dadeadhead

At least around here, the criminals are damaging stores outside of their own communities.

All in the name of destruction for destruction's sake.

The issue with the Lindros trade is they had pieces in place already.

Sakic
Sundin(who was moved)
Owen Nolan (who was moved)

Yes the Lindros trade help facilitate them winning cups but, them having those other pieces helped tremendously.

Without Sakic, I don’t see them winning cups.
- dadeadhead

Hell, I'm not even focused on the Devils. If Jack were to go anywhere, the Lindros trade is what I'm asking for.

100% hypothetical.

I believe you are painting with a very broad bush with the bold above sir.

Do you believe it is easy to work two jobs, or more if you really want to try and get ahead, with two kids as a single mother, for example?
- kingcong39

Well I unfortunately know many single mothers where the baby daddy is a dead beat. They have had to work multiple jobs to put food on the table, yet they still manage.

Is it tough? He’ll yeah it is.

It does come down to drive, unfortunately.

You have said this multiple times. I am never going to say I understand either but please tell me how does the face of white privilege have the ability to understand while no one else does?
- IndianaSabresFan

He hasn’t a clue.

It’s sad really. Especially the way he spouts off about it.

Well I unfortunately know many single mothers where the baby daddy is a dead beat. They have had to work multiple jobs to put food on the table, yet they still manage.

Is it tough? He’ll yeah it is.

It does come down to drive, unfortunately.
- dadeadhead

That is precisely my point, which is many of those mothers are not lazy, but they are still technically working poor, as all their work is barely enough to make proper food, clothing, and shelter available for their kids.

if the mother can find a sitter to watch the kids to loot, she can find a sitter to get ahead in life


I have said it numerous times, welfare should not be a free handout

make them show up at the office, drop their kids at a welfare daycare in the morning

do community service for 4 hours, take a lunch break and then have educated classes for 4 hours


then pick up the kids and go home


you flunk a drug test, your off it

you dont show up, your off it


instead no incentive, no program to get them off it, and many teach their kids how to play the game and pass it on to the next generation


instead they keep having more kids, to make more money and have more cable channels then you or me
- homiedclown

Well that was true at one point in history. With modern technology, why anyone pays top dollar for cable tv is beyond me.

I just upgraded to a gig connection and I’m still saving $180 a month.

I am not talking about people that are looting.

You made the following statement: some call it poverty, others call it lack of drive

Assigning what is essentially laziness as the root cause to the majority of poverty seems woefully shortsighted.
- kingcong39

they were too lazy to get a degree in the first place

they were too lazy to get a job

they had a kid

they were too lazy to avoid having more kids

they get paid


what am I missing?

What a crazy couple days. For those of you who are saying nice things, I and police appreciate the support. No, we are not all bad like some people on here are saying. No, we do not want to kill people, it’s the last thing we want to do.

And Yes, we hate bad cops. Probably even more then you. We want them gone (there are few, not widespread like the media says). They ruin our good name and we hate them. Ironically it’s liberal prosecutors, judges, administrators and police unions that allow them to keep their jobs.
- Fattony1187

This right there along with political ties is the beginning and the end of that issue.

Well that was true at one point in history. With modern technology, why anyone pays top dollar for cable tv is beyond me.

I just upgraded to a gig connection and I’m still saving $180 a month.
- dadeadhead

switch cable tv for free internet , free cell phone
car
food
shelter
clothing

etc


you would think with all that money they get, they would buy a few boxes of rubbers


oh wait, pop another out, get more money