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MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:34 PM ET
No, you're saying we're all the same. Which is scientifically proven to be false. We have distinct differences and always have. The idea that we all walked out of the desert and because it was cold out, our hair texture changed, our bone structure changed, our brain density changed, average IQ changed, our skin color changed, is hogwash. Egalitarianism, while a noble, warm and fluffy idea, isn't based in scientific fact.

Are wolves and cyotes the same species or different?
Are hawks and eagles the same species or different?

Cro-magnon is a completely modern human - meaning: does not have any archaic hominoid admixture, and shows that it is identical to the DNA sequences of certain modern Europeans. A static, unchanged DNA sequence for at least 28,000 years.

The same cannot be said for Africans - they have genome from an archaic hominin species, refered to as a "ghost species", because it is so old they aren't certain what it is, but is presumed to be homo erectus.

European haplogroups did not descend from African haplogroups.

Call it what you want, I don't really care. There are people far more intelligent and versed in this than myself that can put it in some way that doesn't offend you, I'm sure.

- BareMetal

You seem to be making what I'd say is a somewhat tone deaf argument that is perhaps scientifically viable/valid (not sure which is more appropriate given my lack of expertise on the matter). That's fine, but you seem to allude to knowing that this position can be a contentious one so, if I can clarify, do you agree with the following?

While there is genetic variation between racial groups, there are more similarities than there are differences and that these differences shouldn't be used as the basis discriminatory action/practices to be imposed on any of these racial groups. Further, we are likely to be better off as a society if we consider ourselves to be the same species in spite of the genetic variations that exist than not.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
No, you're saying we're all the same. Which is scientifically proven to be false. We have distinct differences and always have. The idea that we all walked out of the desert and because it was cold out, our hair texture changed, our bone structure changed, our brain density changed, average IQ changed, our skin color changed, is hogwash. Egalitarianism, while a noble, warm and fluffy idea, isn't based in scientific fact.

Are wolves and cyotes the same species or different?
Are hawks and eagles the same species or different?

Cro-magnon is a completely modern human - meaning: does not have any archaic hominoid admixture, and shows that it is identical to the DNA sequences of certain modern Europeans. A static, unchanged DNA sequence for at least 28,000 years.

The same cannot be said for Africans - they have genome from an archaic hominin species, refered to as a "ghost species", because it is so old they aren't certain what it is, but is presumed to be homo erectus.

European haplogroups did not descend from African haplogroups.

Call it what you want, I don't really care. There are people far more intelligent and versed in this than myself that can put it in some way that doesn't offend you, I'm sure.

- BareMetal


No poop, Sherlock.

Homo sapien is one species. Point blank.

It is not the difference between (frank)ing coyotes and wolves. Wolves (canis lupus) and coyotes (canis latrans) are different species. Every human (homo sapien) on Earth shares 99.9% of the same DNA.

You have an incredibly unscientific understanding of what "species" actually means. This is dangerous, completely unsubstantiated, racist pseudo science.

This place is like if q anon and breitbart had a baby that played hockey
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Jun 1 @ 6:05 PM ET
No poop, Sherlock.

Homo sapien is one species. Point blank.

It is not the difference between (frank)ing coyotes and wolves. Every human (homo sapien) on Earth shares 99.9% of the same DNA.

You have an incredibly unscientific understanding of what "species" actually means. This is dangerous, completely unsubstantiated, racist pseudo science.

This place is like if q anon and breitbart had a baby that played hockey

- jcragcrumple



"Racist", didn't see that coming. Below are the (unsubstantited, psuedo lol)scientific sources so you can read them yourself, but I'm afraid you might learn something, and I know leftists frown upon that.

1) Caramelli D, Milani L, Modi A, Pecchioli E, et al. (2008) A 28,000 Years Old Cro-Magnon mtDNA Sequence Differs from All Potentially Contaminating Modern Sequences, PLoS ONE.
2) Klyosov, A. & Rozhanskii, I. (2012) Re-Examining the "Out of Afirca" Theory and the Origin of Europeans(Caucosoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy. Advances in Anthropology, 2, 80-86.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 1 @ 6:13 PM ET


"Racist", didn't see that coming. Below are the (unsubstantited, psuedo lol)scientific sources so you can read them yourself, but I'm afraid you might learn something, and I know leftists frown upon that.

1) Caramelli D, Milani L, Modi A, Pecchioli E, et al. (2008) A 28,000 Years Old Cro-Magnon mtDNA Sequence Differs from All Potentially Contaminating Modern Sequences, PLoS ONE.
2) Klyosov, A. & Rozhanskii, I. (2012) Re-Examining the "Out of Afirca" Theory and the Origin of Europeans(Caucosoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy. Advances in Anthropology, 2, 80-86.

- BareMetal



You (frank)ing show me one goddamn peer-reviewed study that says that humanity is more than one species

I'll wait. Forever.

Because it doesn't exist.

What you presented here does not state that there are multiple species. Yes, we all have DNA from extant species. Thats part of the fabric of our modern DNA. Northern europeans have a higher concentration of neaderthal DNA.

So I say again, you have a dangerous misunderstanding of what "species" means.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
Theft and violence creates more violence and solves nothing.

Not sure when people will learn that.


Itโ€™s like Hitler learning nothing from Napoleon trying to invade Russia.


History is a learning tool. Possibly the best learning tool.

Use it.

- dadeadhead

I agree, if cops keep murdering black people, it will be answered with more violence.

Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:19 PM ET
You do know far more white people get killed by cops each year then black. Media easily manipulates the masses who canโ€™t think for themselves
- Alex the Great

You do realize there are more white people in American than Black people, right?

You are being born tomorrow in America. You get to pick your skin color, what are you picking?

I'll hang up and listen.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:27 PM ET
You do realize there are more white people in American than Black people, right?

You are being born tomorrow in America. You get to pick your skin color, what are you picking?

I'll hang up and listen.

- Mentalorgasm5

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:28 PM ET
You do realize there are more white people in American than Black people, right?

You are being born tomorrow in America. You get to pick your skin color, what are you picking?

I'll hang up and listen.

- Mentalorgasm5



I've always wanted to be a Wide Receiver so...
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:31 PM ET

- adambuffalo

No no, Alex the great is right, more white people are killed in America by cops.

The ignorance that some people display on this board is truly enlightening.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
I've always wanted to be a Wide Receiver so...
- buffalofan19




Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
Still waiting for meltdown Mikes response. Does he not care about all these rioters spreading and killing people with Covid 19?

Where is Sbroads and JFitz? Locked in their basement still? Covid is out here killing everyone. Why are you not decrying these murderer rioters?

- Alex the Great

You need a girlfriend. Or a significant other, if that's how you swing.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:38 PM ET

- feetontheair22

You finally read the Bill of Rights to see what they grant?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 6:39 PM ET
I agree, if cops keep murdering black people, it will be answered with more violence.
- Mentalorgasm5

any leads on where I can buy some fake twenty dollar bills?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 6:39 PM ET
You need a girlfriend. Or a significant other, if that's how you swing.
- Michael Pachla

feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 1 @ 6:40 PM ET
You finally read the Bill of Rights to see what they grant?
- Mentalorgasm5


Nope.

Traded it for a 2C, a 1st, and a 3rd.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:41 PM ET
https://billswire.usatoda...josh-allen-buffalo-bills/

Bills talk
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
Nope.

Traded it for a 2C, a 1st, and a 3rd.

- feetontheair22

Oh so you still think social distancing, shelter in place, and closing non essential businesses is in volition of them ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
I've always wanted to be a Wide Receiver so...
- buffalofan19

so a catcher
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
So from what Iโ€™m gathering, itโ€™s actually possible Sammy Watkins is in fact an alien and the earth is flat.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
Oh so you still think social distancing, shelter in place, and closing non essential businesses is in volition of them ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„
- Mentalorgasm5

crazy how these governors had no problem letting large numbers gather together in a friendly protest (riot), but they close businesses due to virus
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
any leads on where I can buy some fake twenty dollar bills?
- homiedclown

My buddy got caught with counterfeit 100โ€™s. Got the death penalty in court.

Didnโ€™t even put him on death row just strangled him in the court room.
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Jun 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
You (frank)ing show me one goddamn peer-reviewed study that says that humanity is more than one species

I'll wait. Forever.

Because it doesn't exist.

What you presented here does not state that there are multiple species. Yes, we all have DNA from extant species. Thats part of the fabric of our modern DNA. Northern europeans have a higher concentration of neaderthal DNA.

So I say again, you have a dangerous misunderstanding of what "species" means.

- jcragcrumple


JFC dude.. this is waste of energy. You're right, there was, and always has been, one species of human. There's no differences, genetically or otherwise. We're all the same. This is black and white, and clearly something you've done your homework on.

I'll take my "dangerous misunderstanding" and mozey on down the road.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
any leads on where I can buy some fake twenty dollar bills?
- homiedclown


Considering the fact the Federal Reserve is printing money like they are playing monopoly and stealing from the bank, just have to check your wallet at this point.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
My buddy got caught with counterfeit 100โ€™s. Got the death penalty in court.

Didnโ€™t even put him on death row just strangled him in the court room.

- sbroads24

it's a shame we didn't protest and destroy the local businesses

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