I have family in high ranks of the BPD. I’m an obvious supporter of law enforcement

One is a Captain in BPD other a lieutenant.

Both were also overseas in Iraq and have a ton of combat training.

They’ve been cops for over a decade. 0 incidents. And one of them has been in a ton of situations

He tackled a guy who had a gun running from him. Could’ve just shot and killed him and got away with it
- sbroads24

This is what I thought all cops are

Number of people shot to death by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2020, by race

2017 2018 2019 2020*
White 457 399 370 42
Black 223 209 235 31
Hispanic 179 148 158 13
Other 44 36 39 3
Unknown 84 204 202 139


For Gerbe who lives in a fantasy land and gets easily manipulated by the media.

Almost double the number of white people killed by cops over blacks. Despite blacks committing the majority of VIOLENT crime each year. Also on the FBI website
- Alex the Great

First, what’s the “unknown” ?
That seems pretty sketchy

Second, there’s WAY more white ppl than black
So no poop there’s more white ppl killed
*maybe, I’d like to know more about the “unknowns”
*I’m willing to bet a very large % of that “unknown” category is ppl of color
*the “unknowns” make up over 60% of the deaths this year


US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Yet going by your figures for every 6 white deaths by cops there’s 4 black deaths by cops in 2019
In 2020 so far, the ratio is even worse


Your posts are, and always have been,
complete & utter dogs!t

First, what’s the “unknown” ?
That seems pretty sketchy

Second, there’s WAY more white ppl than black
So no poop there’s more white ppl killed
*maybe, I’d like to know more about the “unknowns”
*I’m willing to bet a very large % of that “unknown” category is ppl of color


US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Yet going by your figures for every 6 white deaths by cops there’s 4 black deaths by cops

Your posts are, and always have been,
complete & utter dogs!t
- jdfitz77

It doesn't matter they're different species

First, what’s the “unknown” ?
That seems pretty sketchy

Second, there’s WAY more white ppl than black
So no poop there’s more white ppl killed
*maybe, I’d like to know more about the “unknowns”
*I’m willing to bet a very large % of that “unknown” category is ppl of color


US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Yet going by your figures for every 6 white deaths by cops there’s 4 black deaths by cops in 2019
In 2020 so far, the ratio is even worse


Your posts are, and always have been,
complete & utter dogs!t
- jdfitz77

I think the unknown comes from victims not stating ethnicity on their identification, which is not required.

I never once said that, ever.


Clueless.
- Fattony1187

Maybe it was some one else sorry..

First, what’s the “unknown” ?
That seems pretty sketchy

Second, there’s WAY more white ppl than black
So no poop there’s more white ppl killed
*maybe, I’d like to know more about the “unknowns”
*I’m willing to bet a very large % of that “unknown” category is ppl of color
*the “unknowns” make up over 60% of the deaths this year


US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Yet going by your figures for every 6 white deaths by cops there’s 4 black deaths by cops in 2019
In 2020 so far, the ratio is even worse


Your posts are, and always have been,
complete & utter dogs!t
- jdfitz77

Those numbers take no factors into consideration. How many are justified killings (almost all of them). Crime rates per population. What were situations and crimes being committed while killed. What were race of police officers?

Numbers spewed out just to cause division.

First, what’s the “unknown” ?
That seems pretty sketchy

Second, there’s WAY more white ppl than black
So no poop there’s more white ppl killed
*maybe, I’d like to know more about the “unknowns”
*I’m willing to bet a very large % of that “unknown” category is ppl of color
*the “unknowns” make up over 60% of the deaths this year


US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Yet going by your figures for every 6 white deaths by cops there’s 4 black deaths by cops in 2019
In 2020 so far, the ratio is even worse


Your posts are, and always have been,
complete & utter dogs!t
- jdfitz77

Oh look, J Fitz emerged from his basement. Did the world die of Covid yet Jfitz? Did the sky fall and are all our hospitals get over run. Is it ok to spread covid now and kill thousands of lives because one guy got killed?

Zero credibility. Still the worst poster on the board

Youre moving the goalposts

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Here's an academic study that shows risk of being killed broken down by race. If you want to attribute that to violent crime percentage, i can understand that argument to some degree. But that doesn't factor in the underlying economic disparity that leads to violence. These issues are inextricably linked. Poverty, race, violence and incarceration. Thats the point I was trying to articulate to Homie.

There's broad anger about inequality in this country. This issue is a symptom of that anger
- jcragcrumple

Not to mention this latest example of another person of color killed & his supposed crime had nothing to do with being a “violent” one

There’s example after example after example

Oh look, J Fitz emerged from his basement. Did the world die of Covid yet Jfitz? Did the sky fall and are all our hospitals get over run. Is it ok to spread covid now and kill thousands of lives because one guy got killed?

Zero credibility. Still the worst poster on the board
- Alex the Great

Well you’re the worst human on this board,
so live with that
#yousuck

Those numbers take no factors into consideration. How many are justified killings (almost all of them). Crime rates per population. What were situations and crimes being committed while killed. What were race of police officers?

Numbers spewed out just to cause division.
- Fattony1187

Did u say the same to Alex’s #s when he posted them? (and first i might add)

If u wanna do a full breakdown on what’s been happening, i guarantee it’s not his argument that will look better

Not to mention this latest example of another person of color killed & his supposed crime had nothing to do with being a “violent” one

There’s example after example after example
- jdfitz77

Again, extremely rare. Millionth of a percentage.

they were too lazy to get a degree in the first place

they were too lazy to get a job

they had a kid

they were too lazy to avoid having more kids

they get paid


what am I missing?
- homiedclown

Perspective

Did u say the same to Alex’s #s when he posted them? (and first i might add)

If u wanna do a full breakdown on what’s been happening, i guarantee it’s not his argument that will look better
- jdfitz77

When you factor in justified killings, race by officers (minority officers are far more likely to shoot minorities, same for whites/whites) and crimes being committed while killed, unjustified deaths are in the single digits. So no, his argument would look quite better

Again, extremely rare. Millionth of a percentage.
- Fattony1187

Another innocent person of color is killed unnecessarily,
and too many ppl are focused on looting & actions by a FEW instead of the problem at hand which has been going on for far too long

Did u say the same to Alex’s #s when he posted them? (and first i might add)

If u wanna do a full breakdown on what’s been happening, i guarantee it’s not his argument that will look better
- jdfitz77

A new Washington Post analysis shows that in almost all fatal police shootings, police are totally justified. The report analyzed 800 fatal police shootings.

“But only a small number of the shootings — roughly 5 percent — occurred under the kind of circumstances that raise doubt and draw public outcry, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. The vast majority of individuals shot and killed by police officers were… armed with guns and killed after attacking police officers or civilians or making other direct threats.”

Only 5 percent raise doubt and concern, which does not mean the officers did anything wrong. Of those that raise doubt, police are almost never found guilty of any wrongdoing. Critics will say it’s because the system gives them special treatment, but it is still a telling data point.




In 74 percent of fatal police shootings, police pulled the trigger only after the other person fired, brandished their gun, or attacked someone, the Post analysis points out.

An additional 16 percent occurred when a person was acting in a dangerous and threatening manner, such as refusing to put down a knife.

As for the 5 percent of cases that cause doubt, police reported that the person refused to follow orders and did something like make a sudden movement. In some cases, police said they accidentally shot the person.

“My supposition is that the Post set out to prove how trigger happy police were and now they’re stuck with this result that by and large police are responding to an imminent threat and are taking appropriate action,” Ron Hosko, former assistant director of the FBI and president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Another innocent person of color is killed unnecessarily,
and too many ppl are focused on looting & actions by a FEW instead of the problem at hand which has been going on for far too long
- jdfitz77

What’s the “problem at hand?” No one is sticking up for that guy. He was arrested and charged with Murder! Just like anyone else who would commit a murder

My mother was a hair dresser and worked as a processor.

I was 6 and my brother was just over a year old.

She did all she could. It was an impossible situation.

She too did a bang up job, but we had to play baseball in a league that paid for everything by selling candy bars.

We couldn't afford much more than the most reasonably priced clothing etc.

I am white. It happens to more than just ethnic communities sir.
- kingcong39

Well ppl don’t have to worry about that now,
‘murica is great again

99.99% of calls are handled like this by officers all around the country. Then one does something bad after hundreds of millions of calls and all of a sudden police are murderers and are all untrained 🙄🙄
- Fattony1187

Do you think a civilian or a police officer is more likely to "shoot to kill"?

Civilian protecting family ,not criminal related

Oh look, J Fitz emerged from his basement. Did the world die of Covid yet Jfitz? Did the sky fall and are all our hospitals get over run. Is it ok to spread covid now and kill thousands of lives because one guy got killed?

Zero credibility. Still the worst poster on the board
- Alex the Great

Fitz is a 50/50 poster, which is 50% better than your terrible takes.

Funny that fitz is " hiding in his basement", when your orange leader is hiding in a dark bunker when sh!t went down.

Seriously, 2 fake tough guys, alex and trumpy

Do you think a civilian or a police officer is more likely to "shoot to kill"?

Civilian protecting family ,not criminal related
- Boss34

Couldn’t imagine what would be higher. Would have to see stats. No police officer in America is trained to shoot to kill. I don’t think there are many shootings/killings of people breaking into houses and getting shot. It happens but not at huge numbers.

Well you’re the worst human on this board,
so live with that
#yousuckdouche
- jdfitz77

Fixed

Fitz is a 50/50 poster, which is 50% better than your terrible takes.

Funny that fitz is " hiding in his basement", when your orange leader is hiding in a dark bunker when sh!t went down.

Seriously, 2 fake tough guys, alex and trumpy
- Boss34

Can't wait till the Cheeto is gone

US Population Breakdown 2019
76.5% white
13.8% African American

That’s roughly 5.5 white ppl for every 1 black person

- jdfitz77

And that 13.8% of the population is responsible for the killing of 43% of the police officers that were killed.
Violent crime arrests = 37.4%
Robbery = 54.2%
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter = 53.3 (8 times higher than non-Hispanic whites)

Can't wait till the Cheeto is gone
- gerbe75pts

Only 4.5 years to go

A new Washington Post analysis shows that in almost all fatal police shootings, police are totally justified. The report analyzed 800 fatal police shootings.

“But only a small number of the shootings — roughly 5 percent — occurred under the kind of circumstances that raise doubt and draw public outcry, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. The vast majority of individuals shot and killed by police officers were… armed with guns and killed after attacking police officers or civilians or making other direct threats.”

Only 5 percent raise doubt and concern, which does not mean the officers did anything wrong. Of those that raise doubt, police are almost never found guilty of any wrongdoing. Critics will say it’s because the system gives them special treatment, but it is still a telling data point.




In 74 percent of fatal police shootings, police pulled the trigger only after the other person fired, brandished their gun, or attacked someone, the Post analysis points out.

An additional 16 percent occurred when a person was acting in a dangerous and threatening manner, such as refusing to put down a knife.

As for the 5 percent of cases that cause doubt, police reported that the person refused to follow orders and did something like make a sudden movement. In some cases, police said they accidentally shot the person.

“My supposition is that the Post set out to prove how trigger happy police were and now they’re stuck with this result that by and large police are responding to an imminent threat and are taking appropriate action,” Ron Hosko, former assistant director of the FBI and president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.
- Fattony1187

You know the inner workings of “the system” presumably

Do u deny that it’s set up in the Cops’ favor?

I mean, if a Cop kills someone, and that person isn’t around to testify, and there’s no witnesses, well then I’d think they’re just gonna take the Cop’s word as to what happened
And obviously the Cop isn’t going to say he was wrong

And isn’t their a code that exists where u have your fellow officers’ backs, even when something “questionable” happens?
Call me cynical for thinking that,
but i just watched a video where 3 guys stood around watching a fellow officer kill someone
Am i off base about “the code” u have with your brothers in blue?
Bc i think the general perception is that someone would really have to (frank) up badly for a cop to “rat” on another

That’s why there’s a lack of trust that justice gets done in these situations

What if this happened in an alley with no witnesses recording it?
Do those 3 turn the other guy in?
Or do they just say he was resisting & the appropriate amount of force was used so that it ends up being “justified”?

And I’m asking all this sincerely,
Bc i think what I’m saying is the general perception out there

And of course i realize that not all cops are bad
I’m not by any means saying anything like that