So when this gets pointed out, the person pointing it out gets called the racist... Double standards.
- kaptaan

Again going back to Twitter in the last month I have seen at least a dozen times someone saying Old White Dude in a derogatory statement. More than a couple of times it has been by a young Asian person.

Racism is everywhere. It is not a Whites Only Club.

I have said it a few times now since the beginning of the pandemic. This scares me more than the virus.

People right now are looking for a fight. It is is going to get worse and soon it is going to be bloody ugly.

Twitter is am ugly mess right now . Everything is becoming divided. Be careful out there.
- VANTEL

This is looking more and more like a repeat of the 1930's, except with mass social media to stock the fires...scary times indeed.

So you would avoid the confrontation, instead of making it worse, smart
- 1970vintage

Serious? Someone is trying to kill someone by throwing an explosive in their car and you are upset because a person then tries to run their attacker over?

Look, you brought in criminal behavior as the keystone reason for police involvement. All I did is point out that the police are charged with more than that. Maybe that’s not how it should be, but that’s how it is currently. I’m all for solutions, I hope that governments take a long look at how to best meet the needs of people in society.
- 1970vintage

I did?

That wasn't a poop poo, it was a wow, my opinion was that organized hooligans are responsible for the violence, looting, anarchy. Same as the Wet'suwet'en protests.

I didn't think Canadians would be so (frank)ing stupid to partake in violent, looting disobedience. Seems I was wrong to think that way.

I have no sympathy or support for that type of behavior, peaceful protests yes, I support that as a process to be heard and make politicians take notice.

Question, do you think the police have the right to push back against the unruly protesters, not the peaceful protests, the looters, the people lighting cars, buildings on fire?
- Makita

Yep

Serious? Someone is trying to kill someone by throwing an explosive in their car and you are upset because a person then tries to run their attacker over?
- VANTEL

I don’t think we’re seeing the whole story, either way (pro-protest or pro-police). But I don’t think there is a scenario where driving your cruiser through a crowd is appropriate under any circumstances.

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- Pacificgem

Sounds like a very nice setup. Well done.

Yes, police should have the power to detain those people who need detaining. But a lot of the video I’ve seen has shown police engaging peaceful people, walking away from the situation with violent actions. Perhaps we’re not seeing the whole picture. Perhaps that individual had previously been engaged in unlawful behavior, but let me ask you, do you support an officer beating an assailant who is not currently engaging in a crime or resisting arrest?
- 1970vintage

I have turned on the tv on Saturday because my wife was on social media and made me aware of a situation unfolding in Seattle. The footage was a reporter live feed from the protester front line, the North Face, Helly Hanson stores were being filmed as looters were blatantly stealing merchandise and destroying the store, while others were lighting vehicles on fire and throwing Molotov cocktails at police. They interviewed peaceful protesters that stated their protest was hijacked by individuals trying to cause unrest.

My opinion of any law enforcement officer or any person for that matter has no right to beat anyone, I'll even go one further, verbal abuse is also not supported.

But as soon as anyone crosses the boundaries and engages in unlawful conduct they should be held accountable, not beaten, unless they started the altercation. Throwing Molotov cocktails at police, you should expect a baton smack up the side of the head.

Is running down a crowd with your car an appropriate reaction? I don’t think this is justified behavior.
- 1970vintage

If someone is throwing a Molotov cocktail at me... Watch out I have no breaks!

I did?
- bloatedmosquito

You said mental health and drug addiction were not criminal acts but the police are being forced to deal with them. Maybe I misinterpreted that.

Anyway, we agree, more funding, more education, better training, more appropriate compensation.

I don’t think we’re seeing the whole story, either way (pro-protest or pro-police). But I don’t think there is a scenario where driving your cruiser through a crowd is appropriate under any circumstances.
- 1970vintage

I don’t think we’re seeing the whole story, either way (pro-protest or pro-police). But I don’t think there is a scenario where driving your cruiser through a crowd is appropriate under any circumstances.
- 1970vintage

At the beginning of the video a protester threw an explosive at the motionless cop car. The second car pulled up and the first one then drove ahead with people standing on the car.

He is a simple rule that I thought I would never have to explain to anyone, if you don't want the cops to try to run you over then don't throw explosives at them and don't jump on their cruiser.

Again going back to Twitter in the last month I have seen at least a dozen times someone saying Old White Dude in a derogatory statement. More than a couple of times it has been by a young Asian person.

Racism is everywhere. It is not a Whites Only Club.
- VANTEL

Exactly what I've been trying to say and getting labeled a racist for it...

If someone is throwing a Molotov cocktail at me... Watch out I have no breaks!
- carsonagenic

Well thankfully you aren’t a police officer

At the beginning of the video a protester threw an explosive at the motionless cop car. The second car pulled up and the first one then drove ahead with people standing on the car.

He is a simple rule that I thought I would never have to explain to anyone, if you don't want the cops to try to run you over then don't throw explosives at them and don't jump on their cruiser.
- VANTEL

Don't take anything for granted anymore brother... I've learned in this forum that the pot is allowed to call the kettle black... And the kettle can't say boo about it...

Exactly what I've been trying to say and getting labeled a racist for it...
- kaptaan

That’s not why you are getting labeled.

Well thankfully you aren’t a police officer
- 1970vintage

Don't take any prisoner until you put the mob down!

Exactly what I've been trying to say and getting labeled a racist for it...
- kaptaan

You do like to push buttons though

I think you walk a very fine line but like I said I like you. Sometimes the other story needs to be told but sometimes it doesn't.

Don't take any prisoner until you put the mob down!
- carsonagenic

One of the best movies ever.

Don't take anything for granted anymore brother... I've learned in this forum that the pot is allowed to call the kettle black... And the kettle can't say boo about it...
- kaptaan

You are the biggest victim on this site. Put down the violin and grow a pair

You said mental health and drug addiction were not criminal acts but the police are being forced to deal with them. Maybe I misinterpreted that.

Anyway, we agree, more funding, more education, better training, more appropriate compensation.
- 1970vintage

Yes, but nothing about being the keystone reason. As a society we are treating them as a criminal act and I disagree with that.

I just find it interesting that there are protests in Canada about police brutality. I looked it up, there have been 190 cases of deaths in police custody since 1932 in Canada.

As a comparison, on average, 1,200 people die per year in the hands of police officers in the US. According to Wikipedia, police killings are the leading causes of death for young men in the United States. That’s shocking.

Not really apples to apples...

You do like to push buttons though

I think you walk a very fine line but like I said I like you. Sometimes the other story needs to be told but sometimes it doesn't.
- VANTEL

That's true... Buttons get pushed... But I'm trying to stay away from that. Stepping back from the line.

- Pacificgem

Making any $ on markets there Lefty?

You are the biggest victim on this site. Put down the violin and grow a pair
- Codes1087

I am...I'm a Canadian born Scandinavian who can't find a comfortable chair to sit on.