Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
Jun 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
He open his morning address to Canadians outside of Alberta, by talking about Juneau Beach and the sacrifices our soldiers made. Your constant blubbering makes my day every day. - Marwood
Harper treated the veterans like he treated the nations scientists (outside of Alberta). - Marwood
I can't stand Trudeau, but, comments like mine are probably deemed as defending Trudeau, by the ultra-right, who think they are the only ones who can form an opinion, without the help of media.
Yes it is. Airborne does not have a distance qualification.
Coughing, sneezing, talking, bed-making, turning pages of books, etc. all generate microbial aerosols which are carried and dispersed by air movements. Inhalation of these particles may cause allergic responses but whether or not infectious disease ensues depends in part on the viability and infectivity of the inhaled microbes and their landing sites. Desiccation is experienced by all airborne microbes.
Coronavirus just needs a lot of moisture to survive so its travel distance is relatively short. Some bacteria and viruses need very little so they can travel farther.
Hope you learned something today. - bloatedmosquito
This is why I can't stand how the news relays information relating to covid. It completely downplays the severity of how covid19 is contracted, giving people a sense of security with phrases like "we don't believe its airborne" when it completely is, just not the way that reports and studies are saying that are out there to scare you.
I can't stand Trudeau, but, comments like mine are probably deemed as defending Trudeau, by the ultra-right, who think they are the only ones who can form an opinion, without the help of media. - Reubenkincade
Yes it is. Airborne does not have a distance qualification.
Coughing, sneezing, talking, bed-making, turning pages of books, etc. all generate microbial aerosols which are carried and dispersed by air movements. Inhalation of these particles may cause allergic responses but whether or not infectious disease ensues depends in part on the viability and infectivity of the inhaled microbes and their landing sites. Desiccation is experienced by all airborne microbes.
Coronavirus just needs a lot of moisture to survive so its travel distance is relatively short. Some bacteria and viruses need very little so they can travel farther.
Hope you learned something today. - bloatedmosquito
I guess your argument is with the experts.
"There is absolutely no evidence that this disease is airborne, and we know that if it were airborne, then the measures that we took to control COVID-19 would not have worked," Dr. Reka Gustafson, B.C.'s deputy provincial health officer, told CTV Morning Live Monday.
"We are very confident that the majority of transmission of this virus is through the droplet and contact route."
"The overwhelming majority of (COVID-19) transmissions occur through close, prolonged contact and that is not the pattern of transmission we see through airborne diseases," she said.
The BC Centre for Disease Control explains airborne transmission happens when small, evaporated droplets float in the air for a long period of time. In the case of droplets, however, they typically only spread a couple of metres before falling to the ground.
"There is absolutely no evidence that this disease is airborne, and we know that if it were airborne, then the measures that we took to control COVID-19 would not have worked," Dr. Reka Gustafson, B.C.'s deputy provincial health officer, told CTV Morning Live Monday.
"We are very confident that the majority of transmission of this virus is through the droplet and contact route."
"The overwhelming majority of (COVID-19) transmissions occur through close, prolonged contact and that is not the pattern of transmission we see through airborne diseases," she said.
The BC Centre for Disease Control explains airborne transmission happens when small, evaporated droplets float in the air for a long period of time. In the case of droplets, however, they typically only spread a couple of metres before falling to the ground.
They distinguish between air droplets and evaporated air droplets that actually float on air.
I'm happy to have taught you something today. Learning is up to you though. - boonerbuck
See my post above (or maybe last page). It is still airborne via droplets. That is why the social distancing is 6feet, because people who cough,sneeze,speak,etc all release droplets and it's how the disease is spread from person to person. She was just dismissing the claims I stated earlier. It was in my town hall on tuesday.
See my post above (or maybe last page). It is still airborne via droplets. That is why the social distancing is 6feet, because people who cough,sneeze,speak,etc all release droplets and it's how the disease is spread from person to person. She was just dismissing the claims I stated earlier. It was in my town hall on tuesday. - Codes1087
Of course droplets can travel through the air when forced. It has mass. A baseball isnt airborne unless it is thrown. Correct? They make it clear what an airborne transmitted virus is and I put it in bold. You guys are the ones that are confused, not the experts.
I can't stand Trudeau, but, comments like mine are probably deemed as defending Trudeau, by the ultra-right, who think they are the only ones who can form an opinion, without the help of media. - Reubenkincade
I think he's an idiot but he was the best idiot to chose from.
Of course droplets can travel through the air when forced. It has mass. A baseball isnt airborne unless it is thrown. Correct? They make it clear what an airborne transmitted virus is and I put it in bold. You guys are the ones that are confused, not the experts. - boonerbuck
I'm not going to argue. Wear a mask, wash your hands often, social distance and stay safe. That's all that matters
See my post above (or maybe last page). It is still airborne via droplets. That is why the social distancing is 6feet, because people who cough,sneeze,speak,etc all release droplets and it's how the disease is spread from person to person. She was just dismissing the claims I stated earlier. It was in my town hall on tuesday. - Codes1087
Yup, people in FHA were a little perturbed by that statement of "not airborne". Health professionals wear masks over their mouths and nose for a reason.
Dr. Gustafson is using a very specific medical definition that most will not understand and the conspiracy theorists will trumpet it as a "I told you so". It will cause more harm than good.
I'm not going to argue. Wear a mask, wash your hands often, social distance and stay safe. That's all that matters - Codes1087
True. Common sense of course.
If someone thinks they are saying a cough etc cant spread it now, then correct them by all means. I never suggested that and neither have the experts. If someone reads more than just headlines, it's all explained in laymen terms. I dont think there would be an argument then. Just read what they are saying.
If someone thinks they are saying a cough etc cant spread it now, then correct them by all means. I never suggested that and neither have the experts. If someone reads more than just headlines, it's all explained in laymen terms. I dont think there would be an argument then. Just read what they are saying. - boonerbuck
Booner, she is the key speaker at my town halls (bi-weekly),she is part of PHSA (who i work for) and I was stating exactly what she stated as she answered this question, in detail, on Tuesday.
I'm relaying what shes saying, and not going to argue semantics and wording.
Booner, she is the key speaker at my town halls (bi-weekly),she is part of PHSA (who i work for) and I was stating exactly what she stated as she answered this question, in detail, on Tuesday.
I'm relaying what shes saying, and not going to argue semantics and wording. - Codes1087
You did just that actually. I posted quotes and their explanation on the other hand.
Of course droplets can travel through the air when forced. It has mass. A baseball isnt airborne unless it is thrown. Correct? They make it clear what an airborne transmitted virus is and I put it in bold. You guys are the ones that are confused, not the experts. - boonerbuck
I know what you're saying but again the baseball analogy is not a good one. Here's a 3D representation of a cough and the spread of it's droplets in distance and time duration. You are correct in relaying the information that coronavirus can't travel long distances without some pressure or force but don't be confused about what airborne means
I told you before, think whatever you want, just continue to be safe and responsible. - Codes1087
Dont be like that. I didnt give any opinions or interpretations. I just posted the link and quotes. You expressed your opinion and interpretation which is fine. I dont disagree with the fact that when someone spits or coughs that droplets are projected through the air foir a short distance. That is common sense.
It's all clear what they are saying and no one suggested coughing close to someone wont transmit.
You did just that actually. I posted quotes and their explanation on the other hand.
- boonerbuck
Again, no you didn't. This is what you posted:
I think people confuse what airborne means. Coughing and transpiring puts droplets in the area around the infected person. That isnt airborne. That is still considered droplets. Airborne is something entirely different. If it were airborne, we'd all be (frank)ed. It would carry on the wind long distances.
You said "airborne". You didn't quantify it with a link until I questioned it. The good Dr. is using the terminology "airborne transmission" as a medical definition. You said it isn't airborne, which is not correct.
I know what you're saying but again the baseball analogy is not a good one. Here's a 3D representation of a cough and the spread of it's droplets in distance and time duration. You are correct in relaying the information that coronavirus can't travel long distances without some pressure or force but don't be confused about what airborne means
- bloatedmosquito
You are confusing something that is forced through the air and falls to the ground at a short distance vs something evaporated that floats on the air for long distances after it is evaporated.
I'm not confused. Neither will you be if you read what they explain. Sure, droplets can be thrown through the air. No one denies that. This isnt what they classify as an airborne transmitted virus though.
For me to be confused about it, I'd have to be denying a cough can transmit. Show me where that happened?
I think people confuse what airborne means. Coughing and transpiring puts droplets in the area around the infected person. That isnt airborne. That is still considered droplets. Airborne is something entirely different. If it were airborne, we'd all be (frank)ed. It would carry on the wind long distances.
You said "airborne". You didn't quantify it with a link until I questioned it. The good Dr. is using the terminology "airborne transmission" as a medical definition. You said it isn't airborne, which is not correct. - bloatedmosquito
I posted the link and quotes originally before your post. You are wrong. I was discussing what they said and in that context since then. You simply didnt read the link and disagreed. Here's the post you must of missed.
Today @ 5:36 PM ET
Just to make things a little clearer I guess.
"There is absolutely no evidence that this disease is airborne, and we know that if it were airborne, then the measures that we took to control COVID-19 would not have worked,"
"We are very confident that the majority of transmission of this virus is through the droplet and contact route."
This post you quoted is after that and inline with what was in the report. So it was "qualified" with a link.
I think people confuse what airborne means. Coughing and transpiring puts droplets in the area around the infected person. That isnt airborne. That is still considered droplets. Airborne is something entirely different. If it were airborne, we'd all be (frank)ed. It would carry on the wind long distances.
So I really don't know what your argument is about. I've said what they said all along and I never denied spit or droplets can travel through the air when forced by air from your lungs. You are confusing something thrown through the air vrs what they classify as airborne transmitted viruses. If you can get past that, you will see where your confusion lays.
I posted the link and quotes originally before your post. You are wrong. I was discussing what they said and in that context since then. You simply didnt read the link and disagreed. Here's the post you must of missed.
Today @ 5:36 PM ET
Just to make things a little clearer I guess.
"There is absolutely no evidence that this disease is airborne, and we know that if it were airborne, then the measures that we took to control COVID-19 would not have worked,"
"We are very confident that the majority of transmission of this virus is through the droplet and contact route."
This post you quoted is after that and inline with what was in the report. So it was "qualified" with a link.
I think people confuse what airborne means. Coughing and transpiring puts droplets in the area around the infected person. That isnt airborne. That is still considered droplets. Airborne is something entirely different. If it were airborne, we'd all be (frank)ed. It would carry on the wind long distances.
So I really don't know what your argument is about. I've said what they said all along and I never denied spit or droplets can travel through the air when forced by air from your lungs. You are confusing something thrown through the air vrs what they classify as airborne transmitted viruses. If you can get past that, you will see where your confusion lays. - boonerbuck
I accept your apology and now we can move on. - bloatedmosquito
Your habit of not reading previous pages and jumping into a conversation catches up to you pretty quick. So much for the claim I didnt post quotes or a link before you "corrected me"
I havent downplayed covid one bit during the pandemic. I got tired of it all and turned it off by not watching tv and spending time in the bush a lot... but I've taken it seriously. Today, I'm not even seeing people distancing themselves in line ups or anything. Watched a woman run over to her friend at walmart and hug and kiss her because she hasnt seen her in months... I'm as far from people as I can get anytime in public. I'd probably turn down a blow job right now. Whats this world cumming to?
