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Alex the Great
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jun 7 @ 5:41 PM ET
I watched the entire 17 minutes and what she said overall made sense. There were some points I didn't agree with but I got the gist of it.

Having said all that, I reminded myself that a take like that appeals to her audience which is conservative. Am also of the opinion that's she's an opportunist and very good at selling and defending her opinion. I firmly believe that she's smart enough, talented enough and crass enough to take any stance and convince an audience, her audience, that she's right.

At the end of the day, as a black woman, if she wants to take that stand it's her choice and the repercussions or plaudits are hers.

- Michael Pachla



White person with opinion: “Your not black you don’t understand”

Black conservative with opinion: “You are not really a black person”.

🙄🙄
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:49 PM ET
White person with opinion: “Your not black you don’t understand”

Black conservative with opinion: “You are not really a black person”.

🙄🙄

- Alex the Great

Did you ever find those quotes alex the lazy? You gonna blow this out of proportion like you did the others?

And don't forget the links for accuracy and context.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 7 @ 6:10 PM ET
Here's a fun challenge for those who want to participate...

A) For next season, here is the AVV's for players under contract; totalling $47.0m with Hodgson's $0.791m buyout

L1 _ ($9.0m) - ($10.0m) - ??
L2 _ ?? - ?? - ??
L3 _ ($4.5m) - ?? - ??
L4 _ ?? - ?? - ($6.0m)

1st P _ ($0.9m) - ??
2nd P _ ?? - ($5.4m)
3rd P _ ($2.875m) - ($0.9m)
xD _ ($3.875m)

G1 _ ($2.750m)
G2 _ ??

Buyout _ $0.791m
Bonus Carryover _ $1.0m
Hold Roster Flexibility - ??

B) Fill in the blanks by position on how you would financially construct the roster, totalling $81.5m; including the Buyout, Bonus Carryover, and any Gap you want to assign to enable in-season flexibility for callups, trades, etc.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 7 @ 6:10 PM ET
I watched the entire 17 minutes and what she said overall made sense. There were some points I didn't agree with but I got the gist of it.

Having said all that, I reminded myself that a take like that appeals to her audience which is conservative. Am also of the opinion that's she's an opportunist and very good at selling and defending her opinion. I firmly believe that she's smart enough, talented enough and crass enough to take any stance and convince an audience, her audience, that she's right.

At the end of the day, as a black woman, if she wants to take that stand it's her choice and the repercussions or plaudits are hers.

- Michael Pachla


So you'll say overall she made sense right before you casually dismiss her as an opportunist. Interesting, because that's really the only way any democrat I've seen in a discussion w/her try to handle her. Because none I have seen really had a strong rebuttal for anything she says. They just scoff and roll their eyes and go to their stand by lines and catch phrases. Then they start talking in circles before their last resort of trying to attack her character. Her words, as a black woman, hold more weight to me than the old black and white men who have made a career of pandering to the black vote, while never delivering much that actually improved their situation.
Any thoughts about gofundme shutting her down simply because they didn't like what she said?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
NY times editor being forced to resign because he published a conservative op Ed in paper by Sen Cotton (R)

There is no censorship though 🙄🙄.

Anyone that voted liberal are starting to become a danger to this country

- Alex the Great


Wow, massive broad brush painting there.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 7 @ 6:23 PM ET
Wow, massive broad brush painting there.
- kingcong39

Yes, that doesn't help solve anything.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:27 PM ET
Wow, massive broad brush painting there.
- kingcong39

was he counting the thousands of dead democrat votes that will be cast this fall?


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 6:27 PM ET
Well know she comes out and says she came forward because Fromm's career has been built of off Black People. Wow I guess he didn't work very hard his whole life, to get where he is.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:34 PM ET
Well know she comes out and says she came forward because Fromm's career has been built of off Black People. Wow I guess he didn't work very hard his whole life, to get where he is.
- Buff36

“I’m seeing and feeling the black lives matter movement,” said the woman. “I know that part of my job is to hold racists accountable, despite who they are.

“He has been completely silent despite his career being built off of black people,” she said in an exchange of messages with The Telegraph. “It’s about what he does behind closed doors in this situation.”


https://www.saturdaydowns...sages-woman-release-2020/
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 6:38 PM ET
“I’m seeing and feeling the black lives matter movement,” said the woman. “I know that part of my job is to hold racists accountable, despite who they are.

“He has been completely silent despite his career being built off of black people,” she said in an exchange of messages with The Telegraph. “It’s about what he does behind closed doors in this situation.”


https://www.saturdaydowns...sages-woman-release-2020/

- homiedclown

He shouldn't have said what he said, but she has had this text for over a year, why wait until know.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 7 @ 6:49 PM ET
Here's a fun challenge for those who want to participate...

A) For next season, here is the AVV's for players under contract; totalling $47.0m with Hodgson's $0.791m buyout

L1 _ ($9.0m) - ($10.0m) - ??
L2 _ ?? - ?? - ??
L3 _ ($4.5m) - ?? - ??
L4 _ ?? - ?? - ($6.0m)

1st P _ ($0.9m) - ??
2nd P _ ?? - ($5.4m)
3rd P _ ($2.875m) - ($0.9m)
xD _ ($3.875m)

G1 _ ($2.750m)
G2 _ ??

Buyout _ $0.791m
Bonus Carryover _ $1.0m
Hold Roster Flexibility - ??

B) Fill in the blanks by position on how you would financially construct the roster, totalling $81.5m; including the Buyout, Bonus Carryover, and any Gap you want to assign to enable in-season flexibility for callups, trades, etc.

- IonSabres



Great Post Ion, lol.

I'll play...
Below adds to $81.5m; bolded are changes to the original construct above or significant moves (like trading Reinhart off 1RW)

L1 _ ($9.0m) - ($10.0m) - ($4.5m)
L2 _ ($4.5m) - ($5.0m) - ($3.5m)
L3 _ ($2.875) - ($4.1m) - ($0.925)
L4 _ ($1.8m) - ($1.1m) - ($6.0m)
13F _ ($0.925m)

1st P _ ($0.925m) - ($5.0m)
2nd P _ ($3.75) - ($3.85m)
3rd P _ ($2.875m) - ($0.925m)
xD _ ($0.925m)

G1 _ ($2.750m)
G2 _ ($2.5m)

Buyout _ $0.791m
Bonus Carryover _ $1.0m
Hold Roster Flexibility - $2.0m

My roster by player is as follows

Skinner - Jack - Tuch ( I shorted him by $0.275)
Olofsson - D Strome - Anderson
Kahun - Bonino - Cozens
Larsson - Lazar - Okposso
Unnamed extra F

Dahlin - Hamonic/Gudas (a little extra $ allocated, covers Tuch)
Dillon/Pilut - Miller (or DeMelo if Miller moved) ( more $'s assigned here than likely necessary)
McCabe - Joker
Borgen

Hutton
Ullmark

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
So you'll say overall she made sense right before you casually dismiss her as an opportunist. Interesting, because that's really the only way any democrat I've seen in a discussion w/her try to handle her. Because none I have seen really had a strong rebuttal for anything she says. They just scoff and roll their eyes and go to their stand by lines and catch phrases. Then they start talking in circles before their last resort of trying to attack her character. Her words, as a black woman, hold more weight to me than the old black and white men who have made a career of pandering to the black vote, while never delivering much that actually improved their situation.
Any thoughts about gofundme shutting her down simply because they didn't like what she said?

- Ratsreign

She's good at what she does.

What does she need a gofundme for?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
This is a couple years old, but shows how the Liberals try to "handle" Candace Owens. Mr Lieu from California trying to twist her words into the narrative he can work with.
https://youtu.be/a-poqjet5mY
This clip is edited. First he, with some condescension in his manner, introduced Candace Owens as a witness before the committee. Then, after his grandstanding play with his recording of her speaking, he poses a question about her words to another witness, without letting her address his salacious attempt to discredit her. He went on for the remainder of his alotted time asking questions of others and never let her speak. She had to wait for the other Representative to get his speaking time and ask her if she had anything to say to Mr Lieu. That's underhanded bullpoop attempted by the gentleman from California. It seems now that they still have no answer for her but to attempt to discredit her character or just silence her somehow.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
Great Post Ion, lol.

I'll play...
Below adds to $81.5m; bolded are changes to the original construct above or significant moves (like trading Reinhart off 1RW)

L1 _ ($9.0m) - ($10.0m) - ($4.5m)
L2 _ ($4.5m) - ($5.0m) - ($3.5m)
L3 _ ($2.875) - ($4.1m) - ($0.925)
L4 _ ($1.8m) - ($1.1m) - ($6.0m)
13F _ ($0.925m)

1st P _ ($0.925m) - ($5.0m)
2nd P _ ($3.75) - ($3.85m)
3rd P _ ($2.875m) - ($0.925m)
xD _ ($0.925m)

G1 _ ($2.750m)
G2 _ ($2.5m)

Buyout _ $0.791m
Bonus Carryover _ $1.0m
Hold Roster Flexibility - $2.0m

- IonSabres

I'm coming Ion, just taking me some time to see who I would add. And are we allowed to use Rusto(can't spell), in the equation.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
I'm coming Ion, just taking me some time to see who I would add. And are we allowed to use Rusto(can't spell), in the equation.
- Buff36


You can do whatever you wish, if you want to trade Jack for a 2036 4th, do it.
Caution, the above trade might hurt your roster though, LOL.

Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
She's good at what she does.

What does she need a gofundme for?

- Michael Pachla

GoFundMe suspended pro-Trump personality Candace Owens from its fundraising platform on Sunday, after Owens raised more than $200,000 on the site for an Alabama cafe whose owner called George Floyd a “thug.”
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:09 PM ET
I'm coming Ion, just taking me some time to see who I would add. And are we allowed to use Rusto(can't spell), in the equation.
- Buff36


What's taking you so long? You've had an entire hour now to work on nothing but this.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:10 PM ET
This is a couple years old, but shows how the Liberals try to "handle" Candace Owens. Mr Lieu from California trying to twist her words into the narrative he can work with.
https://youtu.be/a-poqjet5mY
This clip is edited. First he, with some condescension in his manner, introduced Candace Owens as a witness before the committee. Then, after his grandstanding play with his recording of her speaking, he poses a question about her words to another witness, without letting her address his salacious attempt to discredit her. He went on for the remainder of his alotted time asking questions of others and never let her speak. She had to wait for the other Representative to get his speaking time and ask her if she had anything to say to Mr Lieu. That's underhanded bullpoop attempted by the gentleman from California. It seems now that they still have no answer for her but to attempt to discredit her character or just silence her somehow.

- Ratsreign

This was an edited clip, correct?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:12 PM ET
What's taking you so long? You've had an entire hour now to work on nothing but this.
- kingcong39

Sorry was cooking steaks on the grill
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 7 @ 7:14 PM ET
This was an edited clip, correct?
- Michael Pachla

Yes, his other questions to other witnesses were edited out. I'm not sure how much time elapsed from when Mr Lieu's time was up to when the other rep called on her.
https://youtu.be/cpMZ8A3qVrs
This clip shows all of Mr Lieu's time

Edit; He actually looks even more foolish in this one, as it becomes more apparent that he's trying to paint this black woman as a Hitler loving, white supremacist sympathizer.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:23 PM ET
Sorry was cooking steaks on the grill
- Buff36


I'll be over...we can work on it together
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:31 PM ET
GoFundMe suspended pro-Trump personality Candace Owens from its fundraising platform on Sunday, after Owens raised more than $200,000 on the site for an Alabama cafe whose owner called George Floyd a “thug.”
- Ratsreign

Here's the background story if you're interested. Gonna withhold judgement. https://www.al.com/life/2...eorge-floyd-protests.html

Apparently her video stuck in his head and in the heat of some moment, of which heated moments were said to happen often with him, he went off on Floyd, whom he called a "thug," and the protesters whom he called "idiots."

There's a lot to unpack and I'll need to do some research as to how and why Owens got involved. Thx for getting me to do some research on a subject I didn't know about.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:33 PM ET
Yes, his other questions to other witnesses were edited out. I'm not sure how much time elapsed from when Mr Lieu's time was up to when the other rep called on her.
https://youtu.be/cpMZ8A3qVrs
This clip shows all of Mr Lieu's time

Edit; He actually looks even more foolish in this one, as it becomes more apparent that he's trying to paint this black woman as a Hitler loving, white supremacist sympathizer.

- Ratsreign

Nationalism was a core tenant of Hitler's rise to power. It was the Motherland against the world for what they did to them after WWI. For her to not know that is pretty foolish.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:34 PM ET
L1 (3.5M)-(10M)-(7.0M) Olofsson/Eichel/Rhino
L2 (9.0M)-(4.5M)-(5.25) Skinner/Strome/Granlund
L3 (3.2M)-(0.925)-(4.5M) Kahun/Cozens/Mojo
L4 (1.25M)-(2M)-(6M) Lazar/Larson/Okposo
13F (0.925)
1RD (5.25)- 1LD (0.925) Dillon/Dahlin
2RD (0.925)- 2LD(1.6M) Joker/Demelo
3RD (3.825)- 3LD (2.85) Miller/McCabe
7th (0.925)
G1- (2.75) Ullmark
G2- (2.50) Hutton

78.5m leaves a little for call-up's or a move
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 7 @ 7:55 PM ET
I am a terrible person.

That’s been decided.

I support the Cheeto rather than one of THE MOST CORRUPT politicians the world has ever seen.

Even though I voted for neither.

Apparently changing your mind is abhorrent.

Unless one sides with a certain side.

Clearly I’m the @sshole.

Still waiting to be quoted.

I’ll still wait.

- TheHank


Is this the quote your looking for @cheetohank?

Bush went to YALE.
more bullpoop from you.
but I'll wipe my mouth.
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