I'll be over...we can work on it together
- IonSabres

Anytime Ion, Steaks and drinks we can play a little pool in the cave.

L1 (3.5M)-(10M)-(7.0M) Olofsson/Eichel/Rhino
L2 (9.0M)-(4.5M)-(5.25) Skinner/Strome/Granlund
L3 (3.2M)-(0.925)-(4.5M) Kahun/Cozens/Mojo
L4 (1.25M)-(2M)-(6M) Lazar/Larson/Okposo
13F (0.925)
1RD (5.25)- 1LD (0.925) Dillon/Dahlin
2RD (0.925)- 2LD(1.6M) Joker/Demelo
3RD (3.825)- 3LD (2.85) Miller/McCabe
7th (0.925)
G1- (2.75) Ullmark
G2- (2.50) Hutton

78.5m leaves a little for call-up's or a move
- Buff36

DeMelo will likely cost close to double the $1.6M you have him estimated at, plus he's an RHD.

You also have Dillon, an LHD, playing his off side as well.

The pairings like this would work:

Dahlin - Jokiharju
Dillon - DeMelo
McCabe - Miller

Nationalism was a core tenant of Hitler's rise to power. It was the Motherland against the world for what they did to them after WWI. For her to not know that is pretty foolish.
- Michael Pachla

I think she's well aware of all that, She explained what her views on Hitler, and how he's most tied to the word nationalism, (I guess the whole point she was trying to make in the snippet Lieu used was that Hitler wasn't a true nationalist) when she finally got a chance to speak. And she then explained how Mr Lieu tried to use her words out of context.

Nationalism was a core tenant of Hitler's rise to power. It was the Motherland against the world for what they did to them after WWI. For her to not know that is pretty foolish.
- Michael Pachla

Almost like not knowing it's Fatherland.

L1 (3.5M)-(10M)-(7.0M) Olofsson/Eichel/Rhino
L2 (9.0M)-(4.5M)-(5.25) Skinner/Strome/Granlund
L3 (3.2M)-(0.925)-(4.5M) Kahun/Cozens/Mojo
L4 (1.25M)-(2M)-(6M) Lazar/Larson/Okposo
13F (0.925)
1RD (5.25)- 1LD (0.925) Dillon/Dahlin
2RD (0.925)- 2LD(1.6M) Joker/Demelo
3RD (3.825)- 3LD (2.85) Miller/McCabe
7th (0.925)
G1- (2.75) Ullmark
G2- (2.50) Hutton

78.5m leaves a little for call-up's or a move
- Buff36

Here's the background story if you're interested. Gonna withhold judgement. https://www.al.com/life/2...eorge-floyd-protests.html

Apparently her video stuck in his head and in the heat of some moment, of which heated moments were said to happen often with him, he went off on Floyd, whom he called a "thug," and the protesters whom he called "idiots."

There's a lot to unpack and I'll need to do some research as to how and why Owens got involved. Thx for getting me to do some research on a subject I didn't know about.
- Michael Pachla

Thanks for sharing this, Pach. At first glance, it looks like an angry business owner who shot of his mouth with an unpopular opinion. Then it ends up on social media and the so called "cancel culture" kicked into gear trying to bury him.

I think she's well aware of all that, She explained what her views on Hitler, and how he's most tied to the word nationalism, (I guess was her whole point she was trying to make in the snippet Lieu used was that Hitler wasn't a true nationalist) when she finally got a chance to speak. And she then explained how Mr Lieu tried to use her words out of context.
- Ratsreign

So she says. I didn't hear the entire interview she was referring to. If anyone has a clip, I'd listen to it. It sounds to me as if she tried to walk back the Hitler statement.

Almost like not knowing it's Fatherland.
- mes418

Got me.

Nationalism was a core tenant of Hitler's rise to power. It was the Motherland against the world for what they did to them after WWI. For her to not know that is pretty foolish.
- Michael Pachla

Actually, and I feel like I might be qualified to speak to this more than anyone else on the board, it's a pretty crazy thing for her to try to defend nationalism.

Her quote is "If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine," she says. "The problem is ... he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."

It's true that Hitler and the Nazis pursued a policy of expansion to find "Lebensraum," but that aggression toward and occupation of other nation states (and Britains initial policy of appeasment), which were both a big part of the cause of WW2, started in 1939.

Before Hitler did anything about his dreams outside of Germany, he was focused first on what he thought would "make Germany great and have things run well." This included the prosecution and stripping of liberties from those Hitler didn't consider German, even though they had lived in the country for generations. It also included the creation of the concentration camps where those non-Germans were taken into "Protective custody" before Hitler devised and implements his so-called "final solution." The camps opened in 1938. That's nationalism taken to its extreme. Thats what happens when we draw lines about how people are treated, even in our own society, based on the us vs. them.

Candace Owens believed if Hitler had just focused his nationalism internally in Germany "OK, fine."

And somebody thinks Ted Lieu looks like a fool in that clip????

DeMelo will likely cost close to double the $1.6M you have him estimated at, plus he's an RHD.

You also have Dillon, an LHD, playing his off side as well.

The pairings like this would work:

Dahlin - Jokiharju
Dillon - DeMelo
McCabe - Miller
- kingcong39

You are right, thought Dillon played off, DeMelo only made 925k last year. I don’t know if he will triple that. But I definitely made a mistake how I put them together.

Thanks for sharing this, Pach. At first glance, it looks like an angry business owner who shot of his mouth with an unpopular opinion. Then it ends up on social media and the so called "cancel culture" kicked into gear trying to bury him.
- Ratsreign

Then again, the heat of the moment usually brings out one's true identity. Look no further than what's transpired here.

You are right, thought Dillon played off, DeMelo only made 925k last year. I don’t know if he will triple that. But I definitely made a mistake how I put them together.
- Buff36

They still work as a group, which is all that matters.

There is a lot of love for DeMelo in the league, especially by advanced stats devotees.

Then again, the heat of the moment usually brings out one's true identity. Look no further than what's transpired here.
- Michael Pachla

Indeed.

They still work as a group, which is all that matters.

There is a lot of love for DeMelo in the league, especially by advanced stats devotees.
- kingcong39

What does Evolving Hockey project for him and Dillon?

L1 (3.5M)-(10M)-(7.0M) Olofsson/Eichel/Rhino
L2 (9.0M)-(4.5M)-(5.25) Skinner/Strome/Granlund
L3 (3.2M)-(0.925)-(4.5M) Kahun/Cozens/Mojo
L4 (1.25M)-(2M)-(6M) Lazar/Larson/Okposo
13F (0.925)
1RD (5.25)- 1LD (0.925) Dillon/Dahlin
2RD (0.925)- 2LD(1.6M) Joker/Demelo
3RD (3.825)- 3LD (2.85) Miller/McCabe
7th (0.925)
G1- (2.75) Ullmark
G2- (2.50) Hutton

78.5m leaves a little for call-up's or a move
- Buff36

Good post 36

I think the issue is upgrading hutton.

I like the ullmark/ 6k future spot, but we need a good solid goalie.

Maybe ranta from Arizona? Grubauer?

Hutts lost the confidence of the team.

They still work as a group, which is all that matters.

There is a lot of love for DeMelo in the league, especially by advanced stats devotees.
- kingcong39

Yeah Hockey News has him rated in the top 30 available FA.

Good post 36

I think the issue is upgrading hutton.

I like the ullmark/ 6k future spot, but we need a good solid goalie.

Maybe ranta from Arizona? Grubauer?

Hutts lost the confidence of the team.
- Boss34

Yeah I was gonna put him as a buyout, and put Dell there but until we know if there will be one I just kept him.

So she says. I didn't hear the entire interview she was referring to. If anyone has a clip, I'd listen to it. It sounds to me as if she tried to walk back the Hitler statement.
- Michael Pachla

She explained when she got to speak, that it occurred during the course of a two hour symposium. She answered a question, which wasn't included in the sound bite used by Mr Lieu, and it's not included here, either. But her entire reply is. https://youtu.be/XCIxOXwubV0.
This commentator takes the contrived Hitler endorsement and runs with it. Interestingly enough this commentator didn't bother to include the part from the hearing when she finally got to speak her rebuttal which Lieu did all he could to prevent. This commentator just totally omits that part from his story. 🤔
I'm gonna try to find out more from this nationalism conference or whatever the hell it was where the original statement occured.

Nationalism was a core tenant of Hitler's rise to power. It was the Motherland against the world for what they did to them after WWI. For her to not know that is pretty foolish.
- Michael Pachla

Nationalism on it's own is not necessarily bad. Hitler was also a Socialist. Shouldl I start making assumptions?

She explained when she got to speak, that it occurred during the course of a two hour symposium. She answered a question, which wasn't included in the sound bite used by Mr Lieu, and it's not included here, either. But her entire reply is. https://youtu.be/XCIxOXwubV0.
This commentator takes the contrived Hitler endorsement and runs with it. Interestingly enough this commentator didn't bother to include the part from the hearing when she finally got to speak her rebuttal which Lieu did all he could to prevent. This commentator just totally omits that part from his story. 🤔
I'm gonna try to find out more from this nationalism conference or whatever the hell it was where the original statement occured.
- Ratsreign

When you find it, post the link. Should provide proper context.

Actually, and I feel like I might be qualified to speak to this more than anyone else on the board, it's a pretty crazy thing for her to try to defend nationalism.

Her quote is "If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine," she says. "The problem is ... he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."

It's true that Hitler and the Nazis pursued a policy of expansion to find "Lebensraum," but that aggression toward and occupation of other nation states (and Britains initial policy of appeasment), which were both a big part of the cause of WW2, started in 1939.

Before Hitler did anything about his dreams outside of Germany, he was focused first on what he thought would "make Germany great and have things run well." This included the prosecution and stripping of liberties from those Hitler didn't consider German, even though they had lived in the country for generations. It also included the creation of the concentration camps where those non-Germans were taken into "Protective custody" before Hitler devised and implements his so-called "final solution." The camps opened in 1938. That's nationalism taken to its extreme. Thats what happens when we draw lines about how people are treated, even in our own society, based on the us vs. them.

Candace Owens believed if Hitler had just focused his nationalism internally in Germany "OK, fine."

And somebody thinks Ted Lieu looks like a fool in that clip????
- Der Kaiser

Why didn't Lieu include the question that she was replying to? I guess her whole premise was Hitler wasn't a true nationalist, due all of those horrible things he did to the citizens of his nation. She never said Hitler was a good leader or anything close. Which is what Lieu tried to portray it as.

Yeah I was gonna put him as a buyout, and put Dell there but until we know if there will be one I just kept him.
- Buff36

I think the Sabres could "matt moulson" - hutton

Send him to he ahl and save 1 million.
Maybe he's a throw in part of a trade.

Cirelli for risto, 2022 1st and Hutton 🙉

What does Evolving Hockey project for him and Dillon?
- IonSabres

Top 3 contract projections for each, based on probability, are below.

Brenden Dillon (will be 30 November 13th 2020):

27% - 4 years @ $3.732M per
26% - 3 years @ $3.233M per
17% - 5 years @ $4.004M per

Dylan DeMelo (just turned 27 on May 1st 2020, and is from London, Ontario):

32% - 3 years @ $2.849M per
22% - 5 years @ $3.949M per
18% - 4 years @ $3.357M per

Top 3 contract projections for each, based on probability, are below.

Brenden Dillon (will be 30 November 13th 2020):

27% - 4 years @ $3.732M per
26% - 3 years @ $3.233M per
17% - 5 years @ $4.004M per

Dylan DeMelo (just turned 27 on May 1st 2020, and is from London, Ontario):

32% - 3 years @ $2.849M per
22% - 5 years @ $3.949M per
18% - 4 years @ $3.357M per
- kingcong39

Didn't Dillon just come of a 3.25m per contract, and that surprises me with DeMelo, he just came of a 925k per

Top 3 contract projections for each, based on probability, are below.

Brenden Dillon (will be 30 November 13th 2020):

27% - 4 years @ $3.732M per
26% - 3 years @ $3.233M per
17% - 5 years @ $4.004M per

Dylan DeMelo (just turned 27 on May 1st 2020 but he will be 28 when next season is fully going, and he is from London, Ontario):

32% - 3 years @ $2.849M per
22% - 5 years @ $3.949M per
18% - 4 years @ $3.357M per
- kingcong39

Would I take a 2nd pair of Dillon - DeMelo at a combined $6.581M for the next 2 years if it also means a significant forward upgrade as well? Yes sir.

Would I be comfortable with a pair of Dillon - DeMelo at a combined $7M per for the next 4 years, until Dillon is 33 and DeMelo is 31, while having the pair of Dahlin and Jokiharju earning significant raises?

That's where things get a little more tricky.