sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Olofsson has a great shot. Olofsson also is bad at getting shots
His shots per 60 was lower than guys like Vesey, Frolik, Girgensons, Sheary, Okposo, and.....Sobotka.
What good is his elite shot if he never can use it outside of the PP?
As of now he’s a lesser Ales Kotalik |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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14 goals total and 23 points for skinner last season
59 games - Boss34
Yes. Skinner had a career worst year with a career worst shooting %.
As far as assists are concerned,
Skinner’s most common linemates were Marcus Johansson and Connor Sheary. Both have struggled to score goals for a while
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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He looked competent. Which is fine. Reinhart is a much better player as of today.
I don’t see a bonafide top 6 player yet.
He did not do a good job of getting open or creating space to get his shot off besides on the PP. - sbroads24
22 goals and 46 points in 60 nhl games.
That's top 6 almost anywhere. Especially here in the b-lo
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Yes. Skinner had a career worst year with a career worst shooting %.
As far as assists are concerned,
Skinner’s most common linemates were Marcus Johansson and Connor Sheary. Both have struggled to score goals for a while - sbroads24
Maybe this is skinners worst career year? 🤔
I like skinner too, hope it's just a down season.
Ollie was the one guy on the 2019-20 sabres that played well above expectations |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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22 goals and 46 points in 60 nhl games.
That's top 6 almost anywhere. Especially here in the b-lo
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I don’t care how many overall points he had. He played exclusively with an MVP candidate, and another very good player.
It’s incredibly alarming that he cannot find space to get his shot off while the entire opposition is focused on Eichel.
How does one only score 6 5 on 5 goals playing with Eichel during his best year? |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Maybe this is skinners worst career year? 🤔
I like skinner too, hope it's just a down season.
Ollie was the one guy on the 2019-20 sabres that played well above expectations - Boss34
Skinner was phased out of the PP, phased out of OT, played with a ton of different linemates, who were mostly bad, and shot a career worst %. He’s primed to rebound.
My concern is I don’t think Krueger likes him, at all |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Olofsson proved he’s an NHL caliber player with an elite shot. That’s about it.
There’s nothing there that would have me pencil him in as a top 6’er on a long term deal at this point - sbroads24
he could be the next Ales Kotalik, third liner with pp
could be the next Jamie Benn
right now probably closer to Kotalik |
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He looked competent. Which is fine. Reinhart is a much better player as of today.
I don’t see a bonafide top 6 player yet.
He did not do a good job of getting open or creating space to get his shot off besides on the PP. - sbroads24
Small sample size but it seemed like the mojo - kahun - olofsson created a lot of space...not sure what it would have or might become, but they looked real good |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Small sample size but it seemed like the mojo - kahun - olofsson created a lot of space...not sure what it would have or might become, but they looked real good - Michael Pachla
I think it’s possible Olofsson is more of a PP specialist/3rd liner, than a constant Eichel winger.
I like Olofsson too, despite what my posts probably read like.
I just wouldn’t say we’re all set with him in the top 6 yet. The shot stats are very alarming for me |
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Small sample size but it seemed like the mojo - kahun - olofsson created a lot of space...not sure what it would have or might become, but they looked real good - Michael Pachla
The results were very bad in a small sample. Those three should play on separate lines IMO, bring out the worst in each other. |
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The results were very bad in a small sample. Those three should play on separate lines IMO, bring out the worst in each other. - Michael Ghofrani
Based off of my memory, as I'm away from reference, i believe that line had 3 goals (2 for olo, 1 for kahun) with mojo getting a couple of primary assists in the 2 or 3 games they were together as a line...if y'all want to pull out the analytics in that short sample size I'd be interested in seeing them |
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Based off of my memory, as I'm away from reference, i believe that line had 3 goals (2 for olo, 1 for kahun) with mojo getting a couple of primary assists in the 2 or 3 games they were together as a line...if y'all want to pull out the analytics in that short sample size I'd be interested in seeing them - Michael Pachla
XG for 2.17
XG against 3.25
even if opposing teams underperformed their XG against that line by 10% they'd still need to score around 60 goals above expected just be net neutral.
It's a very small sample so who knows which way it would've gone but that's not a very good sign. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Olofsson has his moments, he looked better by the end of the year. Still has a lot to learn, especially if he continues to play with Jack, you always have to continue to skate and find open areas with Jack, cause a pass could come from anywhere. Think he got better finding open spots as the year went on. |
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XG for 2.17
XG against 3.25
even if opposing teams underperformed their XG against that line by 10% they'd still need to score around 60 goals above expected just be net neutral.
It's a very small sample so who knows which way it would've gone but that's not a very good sign. - Michael Ghofrani
Fair enough. Do we know the actual goals for/against for that line? |
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Fair enough. Do we know the actual goals for/against for that line? - Michael Pachla
At 5v5 it was 2-0. The line had an on ice shooting percentage of 20% in those 6 games and got a save percentage of 100% |
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At 5v5 it was 2-0. The line had an on ice shooting percentage of 20% in those 6 games and got a save percentage of 100% - Michael Ghofrani
Small sample size. The big thing for me is that they looked like they'd been playing together all season.i get that the underlying numbers might indicate future tragedy but chemistry, for me, trumped less than ideal analytics and I would have liked to see that experiment go further. |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Small sample size. The big thing for me is that they looked like they'd been playing together all season.i get that the underlying numbers might indicate future tragedy but chemistry, for me, trumped less than ideal analytics and I would have liked to see that experiment go further. - Michael Pachla
That's perfectly ok, but when the PDO returns to the mean, and it would, they would look significantly worse. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Sometimes you have to give and take, we need more offense, sometimes you have to give up a little defensively to get it. |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I don’t care how many overall points he had. He played exclusively with an MVP candidate, and another very good player.
It’s incredibly alarming that he cannot find space to get his shot off while the entire opposition is focused on Eichel.
How does one only score 6 5 on 5 goals playing with Eichel during his best year? - sbroads24
Olloffson is someone I'm looking forward to watching for years. I'd say a core guy. Everyone was huffy over losing pilut and his 6 nhl points...
This is the guy I lock down long term - NOW.
The drysatlyl/ pasternak long deal, on the cheap. Before he explodes with eichel in his 2nd nhl season.
*good talking hockey, agreeing or disagreeing |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Sometimes you have to give and take, we need more offense, sometimes you have to give up a little defensively to get it. - Buff36
I think this applies %100 to dahlin next season.
Let him go..... |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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I think this applies %100 to dahlin next season.
Let him go..... - Boss34
Then you have to find that partner for him that just let's him play and not think. Is Joker that partner, is that guy even on the roster yet. |
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That's perfectly ok, but when the PDO returns to the mean, and it would, they would look significantly worse. - kingcong39
I'd like to have seen it play out anyway |
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Olloffson is someone I'm looking forward to watching for years. I'd say a core guy. Everyone was huffy over losing pilut and his 6 nhl points...
This is the guy I lock down long term - NOW.
The drysatlyl/ pasternak long deal, on the cheap. Before he explodes with eichel in his 2nd nhl season.
*good talking hockey, agreeing or disagreeing - Boss34
All depends on the $. I don't see real top end talent.
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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All depends on the $. I don't see real top end talent. - Lunaion
There's a distinct difference between a top end skill and a top end talent.
Olofsson has a top end skill, and really, he's found money as a player with where he was picked.
Hopefully, with luck, Laaksonen can be found money in a similar way as a defenseman. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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All depends on the $. I don't see real top end talent. - Lunaion
Guess we will find out, but he has a shot, can pass the puck and is a decent skater, he has the tools. |
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