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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 13 @ 2:04 AM ET
I mean, yes, people are ignorant, but you don’t need to be a Richard about it
- 1970vintage


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 13 @ 2:11 AM ET
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Jun 13 @ 3:44 AM ET

- boonerbuck



Excellent selection.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 13 @ 10:13 AM ET
I actually agree that a reform in policing is needed...but this defund the police movement is beyond stupidity. But not surprising considering the people who are supporting the narratives behind it. What do the People want? Private security firms doing the policing it would be ten times worse. Unreal.
- LordHumungous


I am actually curious, have you read much about what they mean when they say "defund the police"? The vast majority don't want to disband the police, and no one wants another policing force to take over in lieu of. Your assumption that's what they mean is part of the problem.

I think a lot of these protests are trying to point out what I'm interpreting from you: that people aren't taking the time to educate themselves on the history of oppression and systemic racism, to understand what they're actually talking about (much like Kapernick with his kneeling), and making an actual effort to deal with uncomfortable conversations.

In short, "defunding the police" means taking some of the money away from the police budget, and redirecting that to more community-based organizations and responses. Police are vastly overwhelmed dealing with every situation, severely under-educated in North America, and have a built up narrative around being a hero/life-in-imminent-danger. From my understanding, people want the communities to be better built up to deal with problems before they bloom into issues that have to be dealt with by the police (housing, schooling, general poverty, mental health issues, etc.) and when issues do arise like mental health issues, it's not necessarily the police coming with guns on the hip, it's mental health professionals that can deescalate the situation and provide help for those people.

If you could read more on it, I'm sure it would shed some light: https://www.thecut.com/20...the-phrase-explained.html
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
Not disagreeing. It was a joke question intended to point out people’s prejudice as Arabic numerals are the current standard for virtually everyone, but as it turns out, most people don’t know it. I didn’t realize it until a couple weeks ago when my wife asked me the same question, and I’ve seen it asked on social media (twitter) for the same reason, to point out certain people’s ignorance. I apologize, I thought this had made the rounds enough that it would generate some laughs.
- 1970vintage


No offense taken by this guy.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
Soggy, but there’s loads and they are still on the branch. Squirrels and jays haven’t eaten them all yet. I have a couple of net bags this year so hopefully will get a few to eat. I’m guessing three more weeks and they’ll be ready.

How are yours?

- bloatedmosquito


Small and green. Not much for sweet cherry but loads of sour cherry. The tree is young so the sweet cherry should catch up as it ages. I have some nets i'm going to put up shortly, figure we might have cherries mid-july.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:00 AM ET
I am actually curious, have you read much about what they mean when they say "defund the police"? The vast majority don't want to disband the police, and no one wants another policing force to take over in lieu of. Your assumption that's what they mean is part of the problem.

I think a lot of these protests are trying to point out what I'm interpreting from you: that people aren't taking the time to educate themselves on the history of oppression and systemic racism, to understand what they're actually talking about (much like Kapernick with his kneeling), and making an actual effort to deal with uncomfortable conversations.

In short, "defunding the police" means taking some of the money away from the police budget, and redirecting that to more community-based organizations and responses. Police are vastly overwhelmed dealing with every situation, severely under-educated in North America, and have a built up narrative around being a hero/life-in-imminent-danger. From my understanding, people want the communities to be better built up to deal with problems before they bloom into issues that have to be dealt with by the police (housing, schooling, general poverty, mental health issues, etc.) and when issues do arise like mental health issues, it's not necessarily the police coming with guns on the hip, it's mental health professionals that can deescalate the situation and provide help for those people.

If you could read more on it, I'm sure it would shed some light: https://www.thecut.com/20...the-phrase-explained.html

- NewYorkNuck


lol yes thx I understand the processes involved. I'm just saying people need to be careful what they wish for pushing narratives that aren't so clear. But maybe ask Minneapolis City Council what they think when asked last night on tv who residents should call if someone is breaking into their home or there is a killer loose on their streets? The response was interesting lol
https://www.dailywire.com...-she-struggles-to-respond

But thx for that you brought up some good points here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:08 AM ET
Any thoughts on how the forwards roster is going to look like when they return?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
Any thoughts on how the forwards roster is going to look like when they return?
- VANTEL

Deeper than most teams imo
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
Any thoughts on how the forwards roster is going to look like when they return?
- VANTEL

Ask Nighty lol

Any thoughts on the cap for next season?

lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
Deeper than most teams imo
- Nighthawk


It will be nice to see what healthy roster looks like.

I am also curious who gets moved out this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:17 AM ET
Ask Nighty lol

Any thoughts on the cap for next season?

lol

- LordHumungous



81.5
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
It will be nice to see what healthy roster looks like.

I am also curious who gets moved out this year

- VANTEL

Baertchi-Tanev-plus package...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
Any thoughts on how the forwards roster is going to look like when they return?
- VANTEL


In the West, I’d say about on par with the Hawks. Some dynamic, talented players surrounded by average role players and a few young guys still trying to prove they belong. Under the right circumstances, either team could surprise their opponent. You want lines? Same as it ever was. If Mr. Ferley is healthy, I guess he slots in on line 3 with Sutter and Eriksson.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
It will be nice to see what healthy roster looks like.

I am also curious who gets moved out this year

- VANTEL

Yes & yes
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
Baertchi-Tanev-plus package...
- LordHumungous

I look for compatible suitors then try to peg a deal. Who do you think needs what we can offer?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Baertchi-Tanev-plus package...
- LordHumungous

Why would anyone trade for Baertchi when no one took him for free?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:36 AM ET
Why would anyone trade for Baertchi when no one took him for free?
- Marwood

On his own Baertchi won't move we know that...pack him up with an enticing offer.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:38 AM ET
I look for compatible suitors then try to peg a deal. Who do you think needs what we can offer?
- Nighthawk

There's more than a few clubs that have asked on Tanev...TO and WPG have and I think there is a deal there that could be made.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
On his own Baertchi won't move we know that...pack him up with an enticing offer.
- LordHumungous

It's so easy.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
On his own Baertchi won't move we know that...pack him up with an enticing offer.
- LordHumungous

We don’t know that. 1yr contract in the offseason is an easier time to find a trade.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
It's so easy.
- Marwood

It's actually not that difficult...just need a GM with some balls...

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
Baertchi-Tanev-plus package...
- LordHumungous


I think there is no way Sven is on the team next year he will be moved hell or high water. .

I think Jake is playing his last games as a Canuck because he has arbitration rights and could easily be awarded more than 3.5 .

Here is something wild that could happen or something like it. Benning finds a team looking to move a big long contract. PK Subban comes to mind. Jake Loui and Sven

After July 1 Loui gets paid 1 mil only this year. Sven costs 3.4 and Jake is whatever his new team negotiates. Subban has 3 year left at 9 mil per. NJ save real money this year because of Loui's base salart. Sven comes off the books next year and Loui's salary is 4 mil . The following year Loui is off their books saving them 9 mil .

It also deals with the Tanev issue seing PK is your 2nd pair Dman.

Wild yes but look for Benning to make some sort of deal like that but my feelings are Jake and Sven are gone this year

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
There's more than a few clubs that have asked on Tanev...TO and WPG have and I think there is a deal there that could be made.
- LordHumungous

Sign & trade?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
We don’t know that. 1yr contract in the offseason is an easier time to find a trade.
- Nighthawk

Tanev's camp isn't wanting a one year deal lol. It will be Edler-esque...
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