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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
Jake and Stecher are both players that can be overpaid by an arbitrator . I think they are the two that are in trouble.
- VANTEL

Neither are going to arbitration imo
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 12:15 PM ET
Crumbled? They’ve been terrible with him in the lineup....he’s part of the reason they’ve been so bad for five years.
- Pacificgem

At 3C that line will be a black hole for offence again. Ain’t happening.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
Neither are going to arbitration imo
- Nighthawk

Stecher wont see an offer he could be signed after July 1 for about 1 mil

Jakes agent will tell him do you want to stay in Vancouver for 1.5 or play somewhere else for 4 .

Jake will be traded.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
You guys should talk to Dr House about finishing the season safely. I'll talk to 13.
- boonerbuck

Lol you’re the best. Still out at Milburn? If I remember correctly
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
Jesus. I’ll be happy when these players are gone.
- bloatedmosquito
So we can move on to Myers?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
Free Agency is in about 2 and a half weeks
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
Free Agency is in about 2 and a half weeks
- VANTEL



Hahaha for real? Wouldn’t that be awesome if guys could change teams and sign new contracts July 1st? 😂
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
Stecher wont see an offer he could be signed after July 1 for about 1 mil

Jakes agent will tell him do you want to stay in Vancouver for 1.5 or play somewhere else for 4 .

Jake will be traded.

- VANTEL

Virtanen will get a deal similar to Brett Connolly, 3.5 million per year, he’ll be going nowhere.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:22 PM ET
Hahaha for real? Wouldn’t that be awesome if guys could change teams and sign new contracts July 1st? 😂
- I-own_da-Northwest



Bonuses need to be paid by then also. Next two weeks should be interesting
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:22 PM ET
Virtanen will get a deal similar to Brett Connolly, 3.5 million per year, he’ll be going nowhere.
- Pacificgem



That is your opinion.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
That is your opinion.
- VANTEL

Yes, that’s what we do here, give our opinions
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yes, that’s what we do here, give our opinions
- Pacificgem

Theories...
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 13 @ 12:27 PM ET
Virtanen will get a deal similar to Brett Connolly, 3.5 million per year, he’ll be going nowhere.
- Pacificgem


It all depends on where the breaking point is. I think Connolly has 2-20+ goal seasons and 2-40 point+ seasons, meanwhile Jake has yet to reach either milestone. Although it could be argued that if this season wasn’t cut short, he would have hit both of those milestones. I’d say a 2-2.5 is fair, taking into consideration that the cap will probably go down and the nhl won’t do well due to this virus for a few years.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:27 PM ET
Hahaha for real? Wouldn’t that be awesome if guys could change teams and sign new contracts July 1st? 😂
- I-own_da-Northwest

I haven’t read anything on how that’s gonna work or any plans around it. They’ve gotta do something!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
I haven’t read anything on how that’s gonna work or any plans around it. They’ve gotta do something!
- Pacificgem



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I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
I haven’t read anything on how that’s gonna work or any plans around it. They’ve gotta do something!
- Pacificgem



I think there’s so much uncertainty. As much as I want hockey and am glad the 2 sides are making progress, we must remember that the players will have to ratify any deal that league and PA reach. So depending on hub cities and factors like family and health concerns, everything that’s being proposed could still get voted down if the players have too many concerns.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
It all depends on where the breaking point is. I think Connolly has 2-20+ goal seasons and 2-40 point+ seasons, meanwhile Jake has yet to reach either milestone. Although it could be argued that if this season wasn’t cut short, he would have hit both of those milestones. I’d say a 2-2.5 is fair, taking into consideration that the cap will probably go down and the nhl won’t do well due to this virus for a few years.
- I-own_da-Northwest

15, 15, 22, 19 over the past four seasons...one 40+ point season in his career. He’s 28 years old. Jake is 23, so on a similar projection line.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
Unless they move someone, which has proven difficult for Jim Benning, I don’t see Toffoli being signed.
- Pacificgem

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 13 @ 12:31 PM ET
Virtanen will get a deal similar to Brett Connolly, 3.5 million per year, he’ll be going nowhere.
- Pacificgem


Similar to Kapanen or less. $3.2m
Doesn’t PK, both are fast. 2.8m
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
I think there’s so much uncertainty. As much as I want hockey and am glad the 2 sides are making progress, we must remember that the players will have to ratify any deal that league and PA reach. So depending on hub cities and factors like family and health concerns, everything that’s being proposed could still get voted down if the players have too many concerns.
- I-own_da-Northwest


What Freidman and Larry Brooke have said is everything ties into each other . Escrow is a huge issue and players could face 50 % salary loss next year if their is no resolution. More realistic numbers are 21% or 14 % if they can agree upon things. If players say no return then the NHL will be pissed. Carol has the exact numbers in the blog.

They are trying to extend the CBA 5 years and make adjustments to it . They need to figure it out soon.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:38 PM ET
15, 15, 22, 19 over the past four seasons...one 40+ point season in his career. He’s 28 years old. Jake is 23, so on a similar projection line.
- Pacificgem



By giving him that they needed to say goodbye to JT Miller .
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
What Freidman and Larry Brooke have said is everything ties into each other . Escrow is a huge issue and players could face 50 % salary loss next year if their is no resolution. More realistic numbers are 21% or 14 % if they can agree upon things. If players say no return then the NHL will be pissed. Carol has the exact numbers in the blog.

They are trying to extend the CBA 5 years and make adjustments to it . They need to figure it out soon.

- VANTEL

The whole world is facing escrow. The league needs to suck it up and stop being so greedy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:42 PM ET
The whole world is facing escrow. The league needs to suck it up and stop being so greedy.
- Marwood



It is actually the players that need to suck it up. They signed a previous CBA saying if the league loses money you lose money. The league lost money. Their turn.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
What will happen to Free Agents who get injured in the playoffs?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
It is actually the players that need to suck it up. They signed a previous CBA saying if the league loses money you lose money. The league lost money. Their turn.
- VANTEL

True. Both sides need to worry about the next few years not some 'new season tournament playoff' 5 months after the regular season is halted.
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