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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
The

League

And

The

Players

Have

Agreed

To

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24

Team

Thingy

To

Complete

The

Season.



tac·it
/ˈtasət/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
understood or implied without being stated.
"your silence may be taken to mean tacit agreement"

Or do you need to hear it from Dhaliwal before you believe it.

- Reubenkincade

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
The

League

And

The

Players

Have

Agreed

To

A

24

Team

Thingy

To

Complete

The

Season.



tac·it
/ˈtasət/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
understood or implied without being stated.
"your silence may be taken to mean tacit agreement"

Or do you need to hear it from Dhaliwal before you believe it.

- Reubenkincade


Tell me exactly what this thingy includes? Then maybe I won't need to ask Rick.

The only thingy that they have agreed to is they agree to is they can now move on to Phase III . Show me somethingy that says they have agreed that free agency does not beging July 1 because I missed seeing that thingy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:43 PM ET

- Marwood


Ruby's Rules
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272182327926349824

Calgary

They must hate those neighbors . They built a fence right to the sidewalk.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
Tell me exactly what this thingy includes? Then maybe I won't need to ask Rick.

The only thingy that they have agreed to is they agree to is they can now move on to Phase III . Show me somethingy that says they have agreed that free agency does not beging July 1 because I missed seeing that thingy.

- VANTEL


Phase III of what?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
Phase III of what?
- Reubenkincade

The thingy?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
Ruby's Rules
- VANTEL


Have you ever heard anyone use the phrase," it goes without saying",
Pretty much negotiation 101.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
The thingy?
- Marwood


Profit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:06 PM ET
Phase III of what?
- Reubenkincade



Phase III of return to play negotiations. That is all the NHLPA has agreed upon . Phase III of the plan . They have not yet even agreed to play yet.

Show me the thingy where you have read that the NHLPA and NHL have agreed upon Free Agency does not begin July 1 because as of now on July 1 any team can go out and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent . As it stands now any team can sign any UFA on July 1.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:08 PM ET
The thingy?
- Marwood


I may have to walk Vantel through a crash course on the art of negotiations. Been a longtime since I have had to mentor someone in this field.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
Have you ever heard anyone use the phrase," it goes without saying",
Pretty much negotiation 101.

- Reubenkincade



It goes without saying does not preside over a legal contract. Sorry.



Goes without saying has as much pull as Assume.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
I may have to walk Vantel through a crash course on the art of negotiations. Been a longtime since I have had to mentor someone in this field.
- Reubenkincade


Yes the NHL is built on Goes Without Saying


Your Art of Negotiations has about two weeks left.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:17 PM ET
Phase III of return to play negotiations. That is all the NHLPA has agreed upon . Phase III of the plan . They have not yet even agreed to play yet.

Show me the thingy where you have read that the NHLPA and NHL have agreed upon Free Agency does not begin July 1 because as of now on July 1 any team can go out and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent . As it stands now any team can sign any UFA on July 1.

- VANTEL


In order to continue or finish the season, the 2 sides sat down and agreed that they would have phase 1, 2, 3, and phase 4, of a potential conclusion of the 2019-20 season.

So, it is implied, without being stated that, the terms and conditions of the existing agreement,would therefore be extended.
For all we know, they could have stated it, none of us were privy to the discussions.
It goes without saying.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:22 PM ET
Yes the NHL is built on Goes Without Saying


Your Art of Negotiations has about two weeks left.

- VANTEL


Tacit, is an argument that has been won and lost, in court, by both sides, union and management, many times, over the 35 years I have been involved and many times before my times, as a union activist.
Don't worry, I am off for a week, I will walk you through the process.😁
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
Tell me exactly what this thingy includes? Then maybe I won't need to ask Rick.

The only thingy that they have agreed to is they agree to is they can now move on to Phase III . Show me somethingy that says they have agreed that free agency does not beging July 1 because I missed seeing that thingy.

- VANTEL

how can free agency begin if the tourney starts a couple days later? it will have to wait until
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
Tacit, is an argument that has been won and lost, in court, by both sides, union and management, many times, over the 35 years I have been involved and many times before my times, as a union activist.
Don't worry, I am off for a week, I will walk you through the process.😁

- Reubenkincade



Yes your Honor I have a legal contract signed with the NHL ending July 1 . I signed with another team

NHL . But your Honor the goes without stating rule surely has to beat a legal binding contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:30 PM ET
how can free agency begin if the tourney starts a couple days later? it will have to wait until
- neem55



They can not start anything until everything is in writing and agreed upon. They need to get something in writing before July 1 otherwise any top UFA can sign with any team as per their legal contract.

Again the NHLPA have not even yet agreed to play yet.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:34 PM ET
They can not start anything until everything is in writing and agreed upon. They need to get something in writing before July 1 otherwise any top UFA can sign with any team as per their legal contract.

Again the NHLPA have not even yet agreed to play yet.

- VANTEL



https://www.nbcsports.com...start-date-training-camps

sure looks that way to me
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:34 PM ET
Yes your Honor I have a legal contract signed with the NHL ending July 1 . I signed with another team

NHL . But your Honor the goes without stating rule surely has to beat a legal binding contract.

- VANTEL



A tacit contract is one in which it may be inferred from the conduct of the parties, that they intended to enter into a contract

Yes your honour, I am aware that my union entered into an agreement to try finish the season, which includes playoffs.
Yes your honour, I do realize my contract was signed for the 2019-20 season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
In order to continue or finish the season, the 2 sides sat down and agreed that they would have phase 1, 2, 3, and phase 4, of a potential conclusion of the 2019-20 season.

So, it is implied, without being stated that, the terms and conditions of the existing agreement,would therefore be extended.
For all we know, they could have stated it, none of us were privy to the discussions.
It goes without saying.

- Reubenkincade



Yes all top businesses go on the it is implied clause.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 3:41 PM ET
A tacit contract is one in which it may be inferred from the conduct of the parties, that they intended to enter into a contract

Yes your honour, I am aware that my union entered into an agreement to try finish the season, which includes playoffs.
Yes your honour, I do realize my contract was signed for the 2019-20 season.

- Reubenkincade






So if Pietrangelo signs with Canucks July 1 he is still finishing his NHL season .

Don't be foolish . The NHL will have written policies before July 1 .
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:43 PM ET
Yes all top businesses go on the it is implied clause.
- VANTEL

If training camp goes well, there's no spikes it will be on. There wouldn't be an agreement to prepare to play, if it were unlikely they are going to play. Everyone is just being cautious. But no, there will not be July 1 UFA's unless training camp on the 10th agreement comes to an end, I'd put money on it.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 4:02 PM ET
So if Pietrangelo signs with Canucks July 1 he is still finishing his NHL season .

Don't be foolish . The NHL will have written policies before July 1 .

- VANTEL


I am not the one being foolish here. I never stated that there wouldnt be some rules written signed and agreed upon, I am pretty sure the union would insist on it.
In the meantime, the players are aware that certain targets must be met, throughout the phases, before they resume the season, which would include insurance policies for all players, including those who will be free agents, at the conclusion of the 2019-20 season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
I am not the one being foolish here. I never stated that there wouldnt be some rules written signed and agreed upon, I am pretty sure the union would insist on it.
In the meantime, the players are aware that certain targets must be met, throughout the phases, before they resume the season, which would include insurance policies for all players, including those who will be free agents, at the conclusion of the 2019-20 season.

- Reubenkincade



There needs to be a lot of conditions met and none will be assumed.

Right now why would Tyler Toffoli want to go away for possibly two months from the wife with no contract to play for a team he has a history of 10 games with? His legal contract ends July 1 . He will not receive any more salary so why go? These loopholes and adjustment that the NHL are trying to implement need to be fixed. There need to be insurance policies and signed agreements.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
One mention of capitalism and look who shows up. Lol
- Reubenkincade

lol It's ok Reuby...MorningWood is here to offer solace...



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