Yeah, no more spending so much cap on wingers that are UFA.

how many good trades has botts made?


http://www.nhltradetracke...by_GM/Jason_Botterill/290


I count 4

montour, skinner, joker and kahun

and I am not sure on montour
- homiedclown

If a team offered us a 1st rd pick and one of their best D prospects (which Guhle was at the time) for montour would you jump all over it???

That answers the question if it was a bad trade or not.

Imagine thinking that draft position defines where you must play in the NHL.
- TheSabresTaco

This would be a fun exercise... Let's see how many #2 overall picks in the history of the league have changed positions... hmm, I wonder?

I mean, I know Drisitil did it off the bat @ #3 overall but he was moved back to center this year and lead the league in points.... Soooo maybe that's more of an argument to move Sam back to C huh?

Toffoli would be a great add.

I’m so tired of worrying what someone will do 4,5,6 years into their deals.

What does it matter? We’ve been trash for 9 years.

Go put together a team

Texans' J.J. Watt says taking a knee isn't about the American flag

https://www.espn.com/nfl/...taking-knee-american-flag

Finally someone gets it ...

Hope they all take a knee
- gerbe75pts

"Tuna for JJ...

Turkey for TJ...

aaaand sausage for VaJayJay!"

Toffoli would be a great add.

I’m so tired of worrying what someone will do 4,5,6 years into their deals.

What does it matter? We’ve been trash for 9 years.

Go put together a team
- sbroads24

Agreed... Could they really be much worse than they are now? At least try to do something! Give an effort. Do it for the season ticket holders, if not for the city.

If a team offered us a 1st rd pick and one of their best D prospects (which Guhle was at the time) for montour would you jump all over it???

That answers the question if it was a bad trade or not.
- Fattony1187

Would that team then play him on his off hand and with a trash partner in Ristolainen?

I refuse to believe his 20 games under Housley where he was great (and his numbers were great) were 100% a fluke

Toffoli would be a great add.

I’m so tired of worrying what someone will do 4,5,6 years into their deals.

What does it matter? We’ve been trash for 9 years.

Go put together a team
- sbroads24

Because you get stuck with Okposos, Molsons, and Skinners who take up a large majority of your cap relative to their performance. Cap does matter.

Would that team then play him on his off hand and with a trash partner in Ristolainen?

I refuse to believe his 20 games under Housley where he was great (and his numbers were great) were 100% a fluke
- sbroads24

Unknown. Why did Botts hire a coach that did that? Why didn’t Botts stop it?

Bad trade that’s why.

If a team offered us a 1st rd pick and one of their best D prospects (which Guhle was at the time) for montour would you jump all over it???

That answers the question if it was a bad trade or not.
- Fattony1187

Well if you got a higher pick then we gave up, then it wasn't a bad trade because you got better value than you gave up.

Would that team then play him on his off hand and with a trash partner in Ristolainen?

I refuse to believe his 20 games under Housley where he was great (and his numbers were great) were 100% a fluke
- sbroads24

which confirms my fear Ralph is not a good coach

This would be a fun exercise... Let's see how many #2 overall picks in the history of the league have changed positions... hmm, I wonder?

I mean, I know Drisitil did it off the bat @ #3 overall but he was moved back to center this year and lead the league in points.... Soooo maybe that's more of an argument to move Sam back to C huh?
- SuperCat

Revealing...

Revealing...
- kingcong39

lots of centers drafted in the top 10 become nhl wingers


it's just something for the reinhart haters to bring to the table daily


kid is a top 30 winger in the nhl on a really bad franchise


99 problems and the skunk ain't 1

This would be a fun exercise... Let's see how many #2 overall picks in the history of the league have changed positions... hmm, I wonder?

I mean, I know Drisitil did it off the bat @ #3 overall but he was moved back to center this year and lead the league in points.... Soooo maybe that's more of an argument to move Sam back to C huh?
- SuperCat

Well can't see it happening, had 2 years to do it and haven't, brought in Mojo and played him at C instead of trying Rhino back at C, tells you something right there. Or Jack has more say then anyone thinks and wants Rhino on his wing.

how many good trades has botts made?


http://www.nhltradetracke...by_GM/Jason_Botterill/290


I count 4

montour, skinner, joker and kahun

and I am not sure on montour
- homiedclown

he nailed that Fasching for Hickey trade too

If a team offered us a 1st rd pick and one of their best D prospects (which Guhle was at the time) for montour would you jump all over it???

That answers the question if it was a bad trade or not.
- Fattony1187

Has Guhle made any impact in the NHL yet? this is a serious question. I thought there were many questions about his work ethic and that is why they traded him

Well can't see it happening, had 2 years to do it and haven't, brought in Mojo and played him at C instead of trying Rhino back at C, tells you something right there. Or Jack has more say then anyone thinks and wants Rhino on his wing.
- Buff36

Think it's obvious that Sam has no interest in it. It's not something they even try in preseason.

Has Guhle made any impact in the NHL yet? this is a serious question. I thought there were many questions about his work ethic and that is why they traded him
- SabresFaninIndiana

Not really. At the time though he was still considered a B level prospect with value.

Has Guhle made any impact in the NHL yet? this is a serious question. I thought there were many questions about his work ethic and that is why they traded him
- SabresFaninIndiana

Guhle is the Mark Pysyk of hockey.

If a team offered us a 1st rd pick and one of their best D prospects (which Guhle was at the time) for montour would you jump all over it???

That answers the question if it was a bad trade or not.
- Fattony1187

Yep, I'd reverse that trade if possible.

Montour hasnt shown anything special in my opinion

lots of centers drafted in the top 10 become nhl wingers


it's just something for the reinhart haters to bring to the table daily


kid is a top 30 winger in the nhl on a really bad franchise


99 problems and the skunk ain't 1
- homiedclown

True, very true.

That story does change when he inks a $7m+ contract

True, very true.

That story does change when he inks a $7m+ contract
- IonSabres

he could put up 90 points on jack's wing in 2 years and people will still b!tch

Well can't see it happening, had 2 years to do it and haven't, brought in Mojo and played him at C instead of trying Rhino back at C, tells you something right there. Or Jack has more say then anyone thinks and wants Rhino on his wing.
- Buff36

IF this is true, couple that with an owner who directs player decisions based on emmotion.

Need a GM with balls and conviction to stand-up and demand autonomy .

he could put up 90 points on jack's wing in 2 years and people will still b!tch
- homiedclown

I would not complain again if sam put up 60/65 points not on Jack's line, but including PP time

Or

75-80 points on Jack's line.


Your 90 points over 2 seasons is probably a fair prediction though 😉

I would not complain again if sam put up 60/65 points not on Jack's line, but including PP time

Or

75-80 points on Jack's line.


Your 90 points over 2 seasons is probably a fair prediction though 😉
- Boss34

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