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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:21 PM ET
He has experience in front office management and Kim is beyond bad.

Simple enough

- sbroads24

Neither makes this team anywhere near a championship contender.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
He wasn’t bad either
Pretty sure i remember him among the league leaders in 5v5 goals in his time here

You’ve always been way too hard on him

- jdfitz77


Kane can also kill penalties and was a better PP producer. Also $2M cheaper.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 6:30 PM ET
Kane can also kill penalties and was a better PP producer. Also $2M cheaper.
- Pegullaville

Unfortunately he got into a little trouble and Kim didn't want him here.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
Are there a lot of people denying that? Haven't really noticed it.

On the other hand, Drury was washed 2 years after leaving Buffalo. He's still treated like a god.

- Lunaion


Hindsight being 20/20, Briere was the guy they should have negotiated with as soon as possible. I know the arbitration rules made it tricky, but still they made it clear Drury was their guy, and it was a mistake.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
Kane can also kill penalties and was a better PP producer. Also $2M cheaper.
- Pegullaville


I’m not trying to compare the 2
I think we could’ve had both
And maybe if we did still have Kane & ROR,
then Skinner would’ve taken a discount to stay instead of demanding top $$$
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Jun 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
Who's ultimately responsible for the decision to play hutton injured?

Botts
Ralph
Medical staff
Kym

- Boss34


Could it be they made a decision that none of the goalies in the AHL were ready to jump in and they didn’t think Ullmark would be out for 7 or 8 weeks with a mild sprain. Why was he out for so long anyway?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
I’m not trying to compare the 2
I think we could’ve had both
And maybe if we did still have Kane & ROR,
then Skinner would’ve taken a discount to stay instead of demanding top $$$

- jdfitz77



Would of been a playoff team keeping those two
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Could it be they made a decision that none of the goalies in the AHL were ready to jump in and they didn’t think Ullmark would be out for 7 or 8 weeks with a mild sprain. Why was he out for so long anyway?
- Camel


Why are you calling it a mild sprain? Didn't he come back early?

No reason to think there was anything sinister with Hutton. He's not blaming it, don't see why we are.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
He wasn’t bad either
Pretty sure i remember him among the league leaders in 5v5 goals in his time here

You’ve always been way too hard on him

- jdfitz77

Not bad but not as good as advertised either.

He took way too many penalties and ruined too many o zone chances to offset his 1 goal every 4 games he had here
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
Would of been a playoff team keeping those two
- Fattony1187

With those two here you’re taking players off this roster and we’re still lacking depth with bad goaltending

Wouldn’t be enough
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
So a guy is drafted for position A but ends up going to position B because he's better at it, but it's all the sudden frowned upon simply because where he was drafted. What incredible logic.

Yes, it would be nice if the guy you drafted to play a position played that position. But if they're better somewhere else, it should really not matter anymore.

- TheSabresTaco


You do understand that he has another account, right?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 6:53 PM ET
Would of been a playoff team keeping those two
- Fattony1187


I get why we didn’t keep Kane
His off ice stuff was an issue for the Pegulas
I liked him as a player, but i get why they didn’t wanna risk a long term contract with him

The big argument to have a Team Pres imo is the ROR situation
That’s a case where LaFontaine (or whoever) could’ve been a bridge from Botts to the Pegulas to say we should keep him

Trading ROR has obviously been a disaster to this point
Still have no idea why so many here liked that trade
It was awful
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 15 @ 6:54 PM ET
Are there a lot of people denying that? Haven't really noticed it.

On the other hand, Drury was washed 2 years after leaving Buffalo. He's still treated like a god.

- Lunaion



182 games played as a ranger

Only 37 goals.

Probably worked out better that Drury left as a free agent.

Hurt badly at the time though
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
I get why we didn’t keep Kane
His off ice stuff was an issue for the Pegulas
I liked him as a player, but i get why they didn’t wanna risk a long term contract with him

The big argument to have a Team Pres imo is the ROR situation
That’s a case where LaFontaine (or whoever) could’ve been a bridge from Botts to the Pegulas to say we should keep him

Trading ROR has obviously been a disaster to this point
Still have no idea why so many here liked that trade
It was awful

- jdfitz77

It has been so far. But like most trades like that the team getting the immediate impact will have the edge.

I still think the big issue was not replacing him when it was obvious CM wasn’t ready.

He wasn’t winning a Conn Smythe or Selke here
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
I get why we didn’t keep Kane
His off ice stuff was an issue for the Pegulas
I liked him as a player, but i get why they didn’t wanna risk a long term contract with him

The big argument to have a Team Pres imo is the ROR situation
That’s a case where LaFontaine (or whoever) could’ve been a bridge from Botts to the Pegulas to say we should keep him

Trading ROR has obviously been a disaster to this point
Still have no idea why so many here liked that trade
It was awful

- jdfitz77

Who liked it, again the owners got involved in something that they shouldn't have.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 15 @ 7:07 PM ET
Troll post 7
- homiedclown

tattletale
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 7:18 PM ET
With those two here you’re taking players off this roster and we’re still lacking depth with bad goaltending

Wouldn’t be enough

- sbroads24


Depth like Simmonds, Frolik, etc?
Ok... byeeeeee
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 7:25 PM ET
Depth like Simmonds, Frolik, etc?
Ok... byeeeeee

- jdfitz77

Right, they the depth still wouldn’t be good enough. That’s my point

ROR + Kane = 14.5 mil

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 7:30 PM ET
It has been so far. But like most trades like that the team getting the immediate impact will have the edge.

I still think the big issue was not replacing him when it was obvious CM wasn’t ready.

He wasn’t winning a Conn Smythe or Selke here

- sbroads24


Well, not to start a big thing,
but you said about 1,000 times that he was easily replaced
You were wrong about that
And about how good ROR was
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 7:32 PM ET
Right, they the depth still wouldn’t be good enough. That’s my point

ROR + Kane = 14.5 mil

- sbroads24


Disagree
The depth also wouldn’t be as important with enough ammo to make 3 solid lines
Don’t have to put the best 6 forwards on the top2 lines ya know
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 15 @ 7:34 PM ET
Pick an option....

A - Kim. Botts. Ralph.

B - Ralph. Botts. Gallant.

- Gr8daygo

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 7:37 PM ET
Disagree
The depth also wouldn’t be as important with enough ammo to make 3 solid lines
Don’t have to put the best 6 forwards on the top2 lines ya know

- jdfitz77

Kane and ROR trades took most of are depth. The picks and some of the prospects used really hurt the system.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 7:37 PM ET
Disagree
The depth also wouldn’t be as important with enough ammo to make 3 solid lines
Don’t have to put the best 6 forwards on the top2 lines ya know

- jdfitz77

We wouldn’t have 3 lines still. Not to mention even if we did have both, who are we getting rid of this offseason or next to make sure guys like Reinhart, Dahlin and Jokiharju get signed?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 15 @ 7:37 PM ET
Disagree
The depth also wouldn’t be as important with enough ammo to make 3 solid lines
Don’t have to put the best 6 forwards on the top2 lines ya know

- jdfitz77

but you have to have 6 really good forwards


we dont
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
Who liked it, again the owners got involved in something that they shouldn't have.
- Buff36


Who liked the trade?

At least 75% of the ppl here did,
including Sbroads, Pegulaville & Homie
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