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SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
if Adams goes after Holtby, he will instantly be on my poop-can list.
- Mentalorgasm5

Not a chance
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
Depends on the 2C.
If he plays more like Jack did last year as a playmaker, for Skinner to finish then yes.
If he is more of a shoot first then no.
I like Jack taking more shots as a sniper that being more of a set-up guy...he was the best sniper in the league last year.

- IonSabres

That's a good point, that's why I like Strome, more of a passer, even Granlund is a great set up guy, but think he will cost to much. Or maybe Adams calls his old friend Sullivan in Arizona, they are hard up with a stagnant cap, see what it takes to get Dvorak.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
Not a chance
- SABRES 89

Thank God
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
I would be find moving montour, that it was a bad trade at the time of the trade, and is becoming more obvious it was.

Our forwards are so weak. I want to add there, not decrease.

We actually could ice a very solid bottom 6 with Olofsson, MOJO, Kahun, Asplund, Lazar, and Larsson.

We desperately need that 2nd line center to balance the forward group out.

I wouldn't hate Haula as a stop gap for a year or two until Cozens or another prospect is ready to step in

A plug in- Eichel- Reinhart
Skinner-Haula- plug in
Olofsson-Mojo-Kahun
Asplund-Lazar-Larsson

I think that could be a playoff group of forwards. I would like a better 2nd line center, i just don't if one is available.

- Mentalorgasm5


I get that. I’d just like to keep Miller. Think he’s a great compliment to Dahlin, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. When doing the get under 75M payroll, your choice really comes down to Miller or MoJo imo
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
🤤 kale eggs
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
I get that. I’d just like to keep Miller. Think he’s a great compliment to Dahlin, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. When doing the get under 75M payroll, your choice really comes down to Miller or MoJo imo
- SDSabre

Imo Montour or Risto should be shipped out. Adams should be on the phone with Piluts agent today.

Dahlin Jokiharju
Pilut Miller
McCabe Montour/Risto
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
krufrank
@krufrank
BUF needs some help up front. I would do a deal for Boeser with them but I would make BUF take a "bad" contract off our hands. Here's what I would do if I'm VAN:

To BUF: Boeser + Sutter
To VAN: Ristolainen + 2nd round pick '20

I'm not giving Boeser away


What do you guys here say?
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jun 17 @ 12:11 PM ET
This roster isn't that far away. If you slot everyone where they are actually a good player...

First line: Skinner - Eichel - XXXXXX
Second line: Olofsson - XXXXXX- XXXXXX
Third Line: Kahun - Cozens - Mojo
Fourth Line: Lazar - Asplund - Okposo

Defense 1st pairing: Dahlin - Montour
Defense 2nd Pairing: XXXXXX - Joker
Defense 3rd Pairing: McCabe - Miller

Goal: XXXXXX and Hutton

So like, five players? And that is trading Risto and Reinhart, which should fill two of those spots. Maybe one of Mittelstadt, Tage Thompson, or Ruotsoleinen is really impressive in camp and you only need like two players. Basically, sign a top six forward, don't blow the Risto and Reinhart trades completely, and find a top 20 goalie.

All of this is to say really how badly Botts failed. He only needed to make the same 1 or 2 moves last year (upgrade in goal, second liner) and we would be watching playoff hockey. I can't honestly see any reason Kevyn Adams can't do these things.

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
Imo Montour or Risto should be shipped out. Adams should be on the phone with Piluts agent today.

Dahlin Jokiharju
Pilut Miller
McCabe Montour/Risto

- Mentalorgasm5


I still don’t think you’re getting what we were doing. Salary under 75M. That means one of montour or Risto is gone straight away. Then your choice boils down to MoJo or Miller as the other odd man out, or possibly a different player. I like the defense you assembled here. The forwards as well. But it doesn’t get us under 75M
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
This roster isn't that far away. If you slot everyone where they are actually a good player...

First line: Skinner - Eichel - XXXXXX
Second line: Olofsson - XXXXXX- XXXXXX
Third Line: Kahun - Cozens - Mojo
Fourth Line: Lazar - Asplund - Okposo

Defense 1st pairing: Dahlin - Montour
Defense 2nd Pairing: XXXXXX - Joker
Defense 3rd Pairing: McCabe - Miller

Goal: XXXXXX and Hutton

So like, five players? And that is trading Risto and Reinhart, which should fill two of those spots. Maybe one of Mittelstadt, Tage Thompson, or Ruotsoleinen is really impressive in camp and you only need like two players. Basically, sign a top six forward, don't blow the Risto and Reinhart trades completely, and find a top 20 goalie.

All of this is to say really how badly Botts failed. He only needed to make the same 1 or 2 moves last year (upgrade in goal, second liner) and we would be watching playoff hockey. I can't honestly see any reason Kevyn Adams can't do these things.

- matty12345


This isn't playoff hockey though

It's a play in to the playoff hockey

This team needs more than 1 or 2 moves to be a legit playoff team

Can Adams get this team into the top 24? Sure

Can Adams get this team into the real playoffs? We will see
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
krufrank
@krufrank
BUF needs some help up front. I would do a deal for Boeser with them but I would make BUF take a "bad" contract off our hands. Here's what I would do if I'm VAN:

To BUF: Boeser + Sutter
To VAN: Ristolainen + 2nd round pick '20

I'm not giving Boeser away


What do you guys here say?

- Stripes77


I’d do cartwheels
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
Not that he had a lot of time or players to work with, but he did well with Mittelstadt, Thompson, Olofsson, Asplund, Borgen and Bryson.
- TheSabresTaco


To start off I wouldn't have fired Taylor but of all those players one has become an NHL contributor so far and he came to Rochester with a lot of the goods, scoring 30 goals his first year and being a scorer in the top Swedish league.

Also, there may not be an AHL next year so I think this argument should go to the lower priorities.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
This roster isn't that far away. If you slot everyone where they are actually a good player...

First line: Skinner - Eichel - XXXXXX
Second line: Olofsson - XXXXXX- XXXXXX
Third Line: Kahun - Cozens - Mojo
Fourth Line: Lazar - Asplund - Okposo

Defense 1st pairing: Dahlin - Montour
Defense 2nd Pairing: XXXXXX - Joker
Defense 3rd Pairing: McCabe - Miller

Goal: XXXXXX and Hutton

So like, five players? And that is trading Risto and Reinhart, which should fill two of those spots. Maybe one of Mittelstadt, Tage Thompson, or Ruotsoleinen is really impressive in camp and you only need like two players. Basically, sign a top six forward, don't blow the Risto and Reinhart trades completely, and find a top 20 goalie.

All of this is to say really how badly Botts failed. He only needed to make the same 1 or 2 moves last year (upgrade in goal, second liner) and we would be watching playoff hockey. I can't honestly see any reason Kevyn Adams can't do these things.

- matty12345


If Botts does what you are referring to the last few years we don’t end up with Cozens or a top 10 pick this year.

I’m still in the boat that says we were better off losing personally.

I was always figuring that this offseason was the offseason to really go for it.

Let’s see what Adams can do.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
krufrank
@krufrank
BUF needs some help up front. I would do a deal for Boeser with them but I would make BUF take a "bad" contract off our hands. Here's what I would do if I'm VAN:

To BUF: Boeser + Sutter
To VAN: Ristolainen + 2nd round pick '20

I'm not giving Boeser away


What do you guys here say?

- Stripes77


Sign me up
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 12:28 PM ET
Has anyone talked about the Sabres now have their McBeane team in Adams and Ralph and that Ralph will have more of a say in who is on his roster?

Hopefully, he has the political skills to listen to the Pegs and sell them on what they want done in a diplomatic way and keep their hands as much out of the cookie jar as possible.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jun 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
I'm sort of baffled they didnt interview anyone, I can't think a time where a professional sports team didn't conduct a round of interviews for a GM role.

Botts was horrible imo, so I'll give Adams one draft and one free agency period before I cast judgment. Having said that, I dont have the highest hopes for him.

But he has guaranteed top 10 pick, and a bunch of cap, hoefully he can bring in 1 or 2 legit forwards.

- Mentalorgasm5


Does he? Thought I read that there were overages that we’re going to reduce next year’s cap by ~7 mil. Of course, I don’t know how any of that works so I could’ve misinterpreted what I read.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 17 @ 12:34 PM ET
Does he? Thought I read that there were overages that we’re going to reduce next year’s cap by ~7 mil. Of course, I don’t know how any of that works so I could’ve misinterpreted what I read.
- Frizzlefry


It's much less than that. Probably only 1-2m. Still a lot of questions about how they account for the missed portion of the season, that effect the final number.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
One of the main duties of a GM is to Overseeing daily business operations


how can he assess the ahl club and scouting department in a few short hours?




buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 17 @ 12:37 PM ET
One of the main duties of a GM is to Overseeing daily business operations


how can he assess the ahl club and scouting department in a few short hours?

- homiedclown


He has six months...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
He has six months...
- buffalofan19

"he" whacked them right away
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
One of the main duties of a GM is to Overseeing daily business operations


how can he assess the ahl club and scouting department in a few short hours?

- homiedclown


Is the AHL even going to play next season? Is this one of those times where they know something we don't?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
If any of you were an owner would you pay to the cap if you were only getting minimal results? That is a stupid business model They have been overpaying for the number of scouts, bad contracts for no return on that investment. A bad, building team should not be at the cap year in and year out.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
Is the AHL even going to play next season? Is this one of those times where they know something we don't?
- Lunaion

no clue


purging your ahl, and scouting department overnight might make sense after an extensive GM search


instead we were told continuity, then knee jerk reacion


sounds more like


“What that told me,” a PSE employee said, “is I’m getting laid off before they cancel that family trip to Tahiti."


https://sports.yahoo.com/...ic-culture-125825880.html
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
just popping in to say i want to formally withdraw my optimism from yesterday's thread that is all goodbye
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 12:48 PM ET
If any of you were an owner would you pay to the cap if you were only getting minimal results? That is a stupid business model They have been overpaying for the number of scouts, bad contracts for no return on that investment. A bad, building team should not be at the cap year in and year out.
- GilPerreault11

you would think if you were bringing george floyd into the presser, you would at least interview a minority for the new gm position


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