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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Ghofrani: Sabres fire Jason Botterill, Promote Kevyn Adams To General Manager
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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
With the Pro Scouts, I am thinking this is where Adam's point about having Scouts who can also run Analytics comes into play. If their scouting schedule was light and they weren't proficient in Analytics then replacing them with a couple that do could help improve their efficacy.
- IonSabres

Gotta bring in a strong director, imo, or it's all for naught
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
So since I know you guys are all experts, what's a good phone these days?

I've had an android and it's super durable, but I need something with a better camera.

Looking for something refurbished, the guy at Verizon tried to sell me a $1k phone yesterday so I walked out.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
Take Armia and Byron on the 4th line, Zadarov would be a decent 4-5.
- Buff36



None of those guys move the needle and would be overpaid for their bottom pair defensive role and 4th line winger spot.

Darcy had some huge misses his last two drafts.

Instead of hertl, Wilson, Terevainen, vasilevsky

We get girgs and grigs

Instead of horvat, Domi or mantha

We get Risto and zadorov.

It’s no wonder Murray sold all Darcys trash.

And people want Darcy back
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
So since I know you guys are all experts, what's a good phone these days?

I've had an android and it's super durable, but I need something with a better camera.

Looking for something refurbished, the guy at Verizon tried to sell me a $1k phone yesterday so I walked out.

- chilliard77


I just got the Galaxy S20+ through Spectrum Mobile. I'm on a plan by myself. Paying $86 a month for unlimited data and the phone. Goes down to $45 a month once I pay the phone off. If I really wanted to save money, I could have bought one through the manufacturer as they have financing as well, but I figured switching from Verizon to Spectrum was going to be a hassle in of itself.

You have to have Spectrum cable and/or internet for this deal though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
FREE CANDY
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
I just got the Galaxy S20+ through Spectrum Mobile. I'm on a plan by myself. Paying $86 a month for unlimited data and the phone. Goes down to $45 a month once I pay the phone off. If I really wanted to save money, I could have bought one through the manufacturer as they have financing as well, but I figured switching from Verizon to Spectrum was going to be a hassle in of itself.

You have to have Spectrum cable and/or internet for this deal though.

- buffalofan19

I'm not opposed to getting an iPhone either, but my concern with that is durability. My Motorolla is at the end of it's life, but I've dropped, bent, and broken this thing more times than I can count. Until the battery quit on me.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
FREE CANDY
- homiedclown

Get in the bag mother(frank)er!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'm not opposed to getting an iPhone either, but my concern with that is durability. My Motorolla is at the end of it's life, but I've dropped, bent, and broken this thing more times than I can count. But the battery quit on me.
- chilliard77


I put mine in an Otterbox Defender case. It protects it well enough. I had my Galaxy S8+ in a Lifeproof case and when I turned it in, I got the full trade-in value for it due to its condition.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
None of those guys move the needle and would be overpaid for their bottom pair defensive role and 4th line winger spot.

Darcy had some huge misses his last two drafts.

Instead of hertl, Wilson, Terevainen, vasilevsky

We get girgs and grigs

Instead of horvat, Domi or mantha

We get Risto and zadorov.

It’s no wonder Murray sold all Darcys trash.

And people want Darcy back

- Fattony1187

Once all the statues come down things will be better.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
who was the second line center when the kings or hawks won their cups?

I think it's more square pegs trying to go in round holes and if people think a center will fix the problems, they are wrong


we have a lot more issues then that


all I am trying to say

- homiedclown


For the Kings they had Jeff Carter as 2C. That’s prime Carter. He’s pretty good
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
Jack Eichel WAR is 2.06 wins

That is 4 points

Granted it is not a perfect process determining but just a 50 point second line center does not get this team 6 more points

They need a 2C, 1 top line winger, and 2 middle 6 wingers, and a starting goalie

- Stripes77


Honest question though. If our current second line center is - in that department, like deep -, even getting back to 0 WAR puts us closer. And that center would raise every one else’s WAR (theoretically of course). I’m not saying plan the parade with a real 2C, but man we’ve not had one for so long. When we did, we didn’t have even remotely capable wingers for ROR to play with.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
Looks like a very quick search of this years C's, the average of the top 30sh in TOI produce around 0.85 - 0.95 ppg. Generational 1.35+, High-ends around 1.15 ppg, low-end around 0.70 ppg

So if Jack is high-end with WAR of 2.0sh, then 1C replacement level I'm guessing is toward the lower end of above.

Disclaimer:
I used TOI as a proxy for 1C's ...certainly not perfect by any means.
I'd say you may not be in the right seat, not even right row or section...but your between the 35 yardlines on the proper side and watching the right game.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
Looks like a very quick search of this years C's, the average of the top 30sh in TOI produce around 0.85 - 0.95 ppg. Generational 1.35+, High-ends around 1.15 ppg, low-end around 0.70 ppg

So if Jack is high-end with WAR of 2.0sh, then 1C replacement level I'm guessing is toward the lower end of above.

Disclaimer:
I used TOI as a proxy for 1C's ...certainly not perfect by any means.
I'd say you may not be in the right seat, not even right row or section...but your between the 35 yardlines on the proper side and watching the right game.

- IonSabres



How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
Once all the statues come down things will be better.
- homiedclown


It has nothing to do with the policies and local politicians that have run a large majority of these cities for DECADES! It has zero to do with the politicians that have been in office for 20...30...40 YEARS! It’s the federal guys fault who’s been in politics for 3 years and the statues fault.

So now the cure for the democratic policies that have plagued these cities, is more democratic policies!

And I’m not saying it all has to one side or the other. There should be a balance in government.

And I’m not saying racism isn’t still an issue that needs to be worked on. But I think racism is being used to deflect from the failure of the people that have run these cities into the ground.

Or maybe I’m just an old racist white guy.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
Kim appointed as co-chair of the "executive inclusion counsel" for the NHL....

Thank god. We're all saved.

- feetontheair22



Honestly who has time to be presidents of everything the pegulas own and that counsel.

It’s not humanly possible to run everything they own from sports to oil to music to the harbor center and what ever else they own

It’s impossible To run all of them efficiently.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.

- Powerslave


Yeah that would slot players in a way better spots on this roster.


Skinner. 2C. Johansson
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 12:47 PM ET
How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.

- Powerslave


Desires vary... 50, 60, 70...more.
I'd like a mid 60's kind of guy.

And is god damn his given middle name or Confirmation taken name?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.

- Powerslave



You pancake eating mother (frank)er
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
It has nothing to do with the policies and local politicians that have run a large majority of these cities for DECADES! It has zero to do with the politicians that have been in office for 20...30...40 YEARS! It’s the federal guys fault who’s been in politics for 3 years and the statues fault.

So now the cure for the democratic policies that have plagued these cities, is more democratic policies!

And I’m not saying it all has to one side or the other. There should be a balance in government.

And I’m not saying racism isn’t still an issue that needs to be worked on. But I think racism is being used to deflect from the failure of the people that have run these cities into the ground.

Or maybe I’m just an old racist white guy.

- Gr8daygo


Follow the money.
Just pay reparations and all will be fine!
I'm in... since Irish had Irish slaves, I'm 1/2 Irish ... PAYDAY comin' Bro .. or I'm planning a protest
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
None of those guys move the needle and would be overpaid for their bottom pair defensive role and 4th line winger spot.

Darcy had some huge misses his last two drafts.

Instead of hertl, Wilson, Terevainen, vasilevsky

We get girgs and grigs

Instead of horvat, Domi or mantha

We get Risto and zadorov.

It’s no wonder Murray sold all Darcys trash.

And people want Darcy back

- Fattony1187

You mean sold off everything, Murray didn't do much better in his drafts, and Botts might not be to far behind either one, we shall find out here in the next few years.
devias69
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.

- Powerslave


Vontae Mack no matter what
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Honestly who has time to be presidents of everything the pegulas own and that counsel.

It’s not humanly possible to run everything they own from sports to oil to music to the harbor center and what ever else they own

It’s impossible To run all of them efficiently.

- Sabretooth9


Exactly!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
Desires vary... 50, 60, 70...more.
I'd like a mid 60's kind of guy.

And is god damn his given middle name or Confirmation taken name?

- IonSabres



D. G. D. Putney, for short.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
You pancake eating mother (frank)er
- Stripes77



People pay to get wet, Kim!
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
How about Adams just goes and gets a center who can actually put up 50 God damn points.

And I want David God damn Putney, too.

- Powerslave



Seems like Samson at center would put up 50 + points with skinner and cozens/tage/olloffson on the other wing?
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