Gotcha.
Yes, all spot on.

Adam's interviews reveal he is willing to hire smart people, not afraid is key in his situation is especially important. So that is a good sign if he follows through.
- IonSabres

I thought I read somewhere that successful executives generally hire people smarter than they..can't remember where I red it unfortunately

Risto, Montour, Mitts, Thompson, 2021 first.

Some combination of those names should get us somebody who can play 2C until Cozens is ready.

Keep this years pick
- Pegullaville

I'd be surprised if that list did get you a bonafide 2C ...65-75sh point player.
But add Rhino into the list of tradeable players and I'd agree.

I'd then use Risto and Montour to further fortify the F ranks at 1RW & 2RW.

I thought I read somewhere that successful executives generally hire people smarter than they..can't remember where I red it unfortunately
- Michael Pachla

My experience in business is the same.

I'd be surprised if that list did get you a bonafide 2C ...65-75sh point player.
But add Rhino into the list of tradeable players and I'd agree.

I'd then use Risto and Montour to further fortify the F ranks at 1RW & 2RW.
- IonSabres

I wouldn't trade Risto and Montour. They don't have the best goaltending, they need some level of D

I'd be surprised if that list did get you a bonafide 2C ...65-75sh point player.
But add Rhino into the list of tradeable players and I'd agree.

I'd then use Risto and Montour to further fortify the F ranks at 1RW & 2RW.
- IonSabres

If those players don't get you a 2C, then why would we trade Samson and expect those same players to bring us a 1RW?

I wouldn't trade Risto and Montour. They don't have the best goaltending, they need some level of D
- GilPerreault11

I would, as they:
- have 3 guys who can play 2RhD in Joker, Risto, Montour
- don't have a suitable 1RhD
- Miller can play 3RhD

Keep Joker, trade Risto and Montour to save about $9.5m.

My sources (TBN) tell me Ralph likes Risto and Montour not so much so Montour might be on the outs no idea about the rest.

Edit: Oh and cruddy, young teams with very few prospects should never trade top ten picks as Mike Harrington wants them to do
- GilPerreault11

Agreed on Montour and they shouldn't be trading their pick this year, however post lottery if they are in the 9th or 10th spot I would consider moving it

If those players don't get you a 2C, then why would we trade Samson and expect those same players to bring us a 1RW?
- RhinoFan

Because if it were me, I would retool the lines
1st - reunite Skinner and Jack, and the RW would be more like Tuch from VKG. My motive would be more of a physical presence, a guy who can dig the puck out while still putting some points. But the priority is for Skinner and Jack to be the focus. I'll trade-off production from the 1RW for a possession driver to fortify the other 2.
2nd - Olo and the new 2C and a new 2RW, like a Josh Anderson...again, more physicality and can keep up north and south

I just don't see Risto nor Montour being the key piece to secure a bonafide 65-75 pt 2C IMO.

I'd be surprised if that list did get you a bonafide 2C ...65-75sh point player.
But add Rhino into the list of tradeable players and I'd agree.

I'd then use Risto and Montour to further fortify the F ranks at 1RW & 2RW.
- IonSabres

8/10 you have to draft that said player regardless.

We should be able to acquire someone that can hold their water though in the short term.

Balls

Because if it were me, I would retool the lines
1st - reunite Skinner and Jack, and the RW would be more like Tuch from VKG. My motive would be more of a physical presence, a guy who can dig the puck out while still putting some points. But the priority is for Skinner and Jack to be the focus. I'll trade-off production from the 1RW for a possession driver to fortify the other 2.
2nd - Olo and the new 2C and a new 2RW, like a Josh Anderson...again, more physicality and can keep up north and south

I just don't see Risto nor Montour being the key piece to secure a bonafide 65-75 pt 2C IMO.
- IonSabres

How many times does a player like that even get traded though ?

Bob McKenzie's FINAL Top 10 Draft Rankings:

1. Alexis Lafrenière (LW)
2. Tim Stützle (C/LW)
3. Quinton Byfield (C)
4. Jamie Drysdale (D)
5. Cole Perfetti (C/LW)
6. Lucas Raymond (RW)
7. Marco Rossi (C)
8. Jake Sanderson (D)
9. Alexander Holtz (LW/RW)
10. Jack Quinn (RW)

I like that Marco Rossi is #7 from what I've read.
- GilPerreault11

We need scoring, Holtz should be our pick he we dont move up.

Won't be ready right away, but that is one prospect I would be surprised to see him fail reaching his potential of a top 6 winger.

I'd be surprised if that list did get you a bonafide 2C ...65-75sh point player.
But add Rhino into the list of tradeable players and I'd agree.

I'd then use Risto and Montour to further fortify the F ranks at 1RW & 2RW.
- IonSabres

funny thing is, combine that whole package, and we got less than that for ROR.

How some said it was a good trade is beyond me.

Reinhart is trending in NY on Twitter but not our Reinhart. Just a foreshadowing of the future.

They are going to tank all over again
- GilPerreault11

that would mean they actually stopped tanking, which is false

How many times does a player like that even get traded though ?
- Pegullaville

I ran an inquiry many mo ths ago going back 5 years..there were about 15sh traded that would qualify as a 2C based on minutes played...I think the points total was like 45 or 50...can't remember ... so that would include 2C and 3C tweeners. So maybe it's 1-2 a year?
Something like that

Do we see more this offseason based a Cap challenges? IDK.

I ran an inquiry many mo ths ago going back 5 years..there were about 15sh traded that would qualify as a 2C based on minutes played...I think the points total was like 45 or 50...can't remember ... so that would include 2C and 3C tweeners. So maybe it's 1-2 a year?
Something like that

Do we see more this offseason based a Cap challenges? IDK.
- IonSabres

Touche. ROR and Kadri stick out at the top of my head from recently. I must be missing a few though. I know Winnipeg did Stastny and Hayes in back to back years as rentals. Do those count in the basis of your research ?

I would, as they:
- have 3 guys who can play 2RhD in Joker, Risto, Montour
- don't have a suitable 1RhD
- Miller can play 3RhD

Keep Joker, trade Risto and Montour to save about $9.5m.
- IonSabres

move risto or montour to get a pick and prospect


time to get lean

Touche. ROR and Kadri stick out at the top of my head from recently. I must be missing a few though. I know Winnipeg did Stastny and Hayes in back to back years as rentals. Do those count in the basis of your research ?
- Pegullaville

JT Miller

Touche. ROR and Kadri stick out at the top of my head from recently. I must be missing a few though. I know Winnipeg did Stastny and Hayes in back to back years as rentals. Do those count in the basis of your research ?
- Pegullaville

Shane Bowers
Andrew Hammond
2018 conditional 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick


for Duchene

move risto or montour to get a pick and prospect


time to get lean
- homiedclown

are you saying this so kymmy can get a bigger yacht? they need to trade montour with picks and prospects for up front help

JT Miller
- SabresFaninIndiana

Good call.

Forgot about him cause he’s playing the wing in Vancouver but he can also play down the middle.

are you saying this so kymmy can get a bigger yacht? they need to trade montour with picks and prospects for up front help
- SabresFaninIndiana

help up front is casey, cozens, tage and the 2020 first round pick


time to trim salary

help up front is casey, cozens, tage and the 2020 first round pick


time to trim salary
- homiedclown

Shane Bowers
Andrew Hammond
2018 conditional 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick


for Duchene
- homiedclown

Gotta love paying that much for a guy with minimal term left on his deal only to cough up a top 5 pick and end up flipping him to Columbus not even 2 years later.