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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
All credit to him for being remarkably healthy, but the chickens are going to come home to roost, as the saying goes, with the amount of minutes he has played.

Yet another reason to trade him now before that begins happening.

- kingcong39

That's actually my main reason for wanting him traded. One thing about Risto is that he's always in tip-top shape, however, he probably has only a few years left of relatively injury-free hockey.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Is there anyone’s career they haven’t botched?
- Buffalo--Sabres

WGR on-air personalities?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
WGR on-air personalities?
- Michael Pachla


I am kind of shocked that one of Peters, Biron or Rivet weren't let go.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
WGR on-air personalities?
- Michael Pachla



Ha

You can’t break what’s already broken
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
WGR on-air personalities?
- Michael Pachla


😂😂😂
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
That's actually my main reason for wanting him traded. One thing about Risto is that he's always in tip-top shape, however, he probably has only a few years left of relatively injury-free hockey.
- Michael Pachla


As someone who is into fitness (running, specifically, and all of its benefits), massive credit for him being in the kind of physical shape needed to log all those minutes, but, there is always a price to pay physically, and as you said, MUCH better to get out in front of that possibility.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
Is there anyone’s career they haven’t botched?
- Buffalo--Sabres

if it wasn't for the Sabres Girgs would be making less money and Scott Wilson would have only played in the AHL the last few seasons
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
As someone who is into fitness (running, specifically, and all of its benefits), massive credit for him being in the kind of physical shape needed to log all those minutes, but, there is always a price to pay physically, and as you said, MUCH better to get out in front of that possibility.
- kingcong39

if he gets traded and the team he goes to uses him more efficiently and he only get 17-19 minutes a night he could be a very good pick up and the less minutes could help extend his career unlike what buffalo is doing to him. but at what price is the question.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:09 PM ET
I am kind of shocked that one of Peters, Biron or Rivet weren't let go.
- buffalofan19

In looking at what they've done, think about them and what you just wrote. 😉
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
Ha

You can’t break what’s already broken

- Buffalo--Sabres

I listened to Baker on the Howard show and really like Howard Simon as an interviewer.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
if it wasn't for the Sabres Girgs would be making less money and Scott Wilson would have only played in the AHL the last few seasons
- SabresFaninIndiana


This is true. The list of tragedies perpetuated by the Sabres since the Pegulas took over is book worthy. Probably a 2 part book. Thick ones. Sadly this is not an exaggeration.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
In looking at what they've done, think about them and what you just wrote. 😉
- Michael Pachla


I know where you're going with that, but I don't put Biron in the same category as the other two, so my shock still stands.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
if he gets traded and the team he goes to uses him more efficiently and he only get 17-19 minutes a night he could be a very good pick up and the less minutes could help extend his career unlike what buffalo is doing to him. but at what price is the question.
- SabresFaninIndiana


Risto in a heavily offensive sheltered role playing on the third pair would be just fine.

Only problem is he is never used like that and his salary says he’s overpaid to be in that type of role.

My two cents
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
I listened to Baker on the Howard show and really like Howard Simon as an interviewer.
- Michael Pachla


He is. They’ve got a few other truly useless personalities on state run radio though.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:17 PM ET
I know where you're going with that, but I don't put Biron in the same category as the other two, so my shock still stands.
- buffalofan19



I like Rivet and Peters as people. In fact I could say I really like them and I think Peters gives some really honest and candid insight to his career and how it relates(and many times doesn’t) to the modern NHL.

However when I heard the recording of Peters being “shocked” that Botts was let go it proved why I don’t listen to them. Hockey at large is a boys club and no one criticizes the obvious, ever. To Peters and everyone else in his circle the fact that Botterill played in the show and was respected was enough for them. And they didn’t want to see anything bad happen to him. Meanwhile his on job performance was atrocious and only the fans suffer.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:21 PM ET
Risto in a heavily offensive sheltered role playing on the third pair would be just fine.

Only problem is he is never used like that and his salary says he’s overpaid to be in that type of role.

My two cents

- Pegullaville



He's a lot like Dion Phaneuf if we're being honest.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
He's a lot like Dion Phaneuf if we're being honest.
- BINGO!

just not that grossly overpaid.... yet
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I like Rivet and Peters as people. In fact I could say I really like them and I think Peters gives some really honest and candid insight to his career and how it relates(and many times doesn’t) to the modern NHL.

However when I heard the recording of Peters being “shocked” that Botts was let go it proved why I don’t listen to them. Hockey at large is a boys club and no one criticizes the obvious, ever. To Peters and everyone else in his circle the fact that Botterill played in the show and was respected was enough for them. And they didn’t want to see anything bad happen to him. Meanwhile his on job performance was atrocious and only the fans suffer.

- Buffalo--Sabres


Or maybe 3 years to rebuild the rebuild wasn’t enough ?

I would have given him this offseason to go for it and fired him if he didn’t make the playoffs next year.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
Or maybe 3 years to rebuild the rebuild wasn’t enough ?

I would have given him this offseason to go for it and fired him if he didn’t make the playoffs next year.

- Pegullaville

i am really curious what the straw that broke the camels back was on this.. didn't they just say a few weeks ago that they were happy with him and his job was safe? did they talk about what this offseason was going to look like and they didn't like it?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
i am really curious what the straw that broke the camels back was on this.. didn't they just say a few weeks ago that they were happy with him and his job was safe? did they talk about what this offseason was going to look like and they didn't like it?
- SabresFaninIndiana


They must have made the decision to get "leaner" afterwards. Botterill is kind of pudgy now.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Or maybe 3 years to rebuild the rebuild wasn’t enough ?

I would have given him this offseason to go for it and fired him if he didn’t make the playoffs next year.

- Pegullaville


We’re also forgetting get was fired not for on the job performance, but for not cost cutting and being personally responsible for firing members of his own staff for things beyond his control. Which in of itself wreaks of toxicity and dysfunction beyond our imagination.

As far as on the job performance the problem is once your in a position as an individual where you’re back pedaling all the time and trying to point out tiny successes and just survive the day, you’re already done. Mentally you’re not seeing the big picture and it’s going to lead to more bad decisions.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
I know where you're going with that, but I don't put Biron in the same category as the other two, so my shock still stands.
- buffalofan19

Agreed. Marty's fine.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Any golfers out there ever hit the

Titleist U510
or
TaylorMade GAPR

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
just not that grossly overpaid.... yet
- SabresFaninIndiana


yep
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
He's a lot like Dion Phaneuf if we're being honest.
- BINGO!

I've heard Jay Bouwmester too
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