So it’s a good idea to take 3rd liners from the Leafs & put them on our 2nd line?
Ummmmm... no, it’s not
- jdfitz77

Johnsson is a 20 goal guy who can play on any line.

I’ll take him for Risto or Montour straight up too

So it’s a good idea to take 3rd liners from the Leafs & put them on our 2nd line?
Ummmmm... no, it’s not
- jdfitz77

He played 2LW for a good chunk of time.

Which center is Kerfoot supposed to beat out for 2C minutes on the Leafs ?

Absolutely, and I like Montour slightly more than Risto.

Jokiharju is the type of D man that will be RD1 for years and he’s 21. I would absolutely trade one of Risto/Montour, keep the other at RD3 and move Miller up as he started to play really well to end the year.
- sbroads24

Show me what your forward lineup looks like after this trade

Enough with the 3rd liners playing above where they actually should be slotted.
- Powerslave

Enough with the 3/4 D men playing as our #1

He played 2LW for a good chunk of time.

Which center is Kerfoot supposed to beat out for 2C minutes on the Leafs ?
- Pegullaville

He's obviously not the long term solution for 2C, but if all I have to give up is Ristolainen to add him and Johnsson, I don't see the problem?

Show me what your forward lineup looks like after this trade
- jdfitz77

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Kerfoot-Cozens
Johnsson-Mojo-Kahun
Asplund-Larsson-Okposo

He's obviously not the long term solution for 2C, but if all I have to give up is Ristolainen to add him and Johnsson, I don't see the problem?
- Michael Ghofrani

Makes two of us.

He's obviously not the long term solution for 2C, but if all I have to give up is Ristolainen to add him and Johnsson, I don't see the problem?
- Michael Ghofrani

Having guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot prevents adding guys like Frolik and Simmonds.

It’s a flat out win

Why is it not? Their top 2 centres were Matthews and Tavares.

The deal makes the Sabres significantly better.
- Michael Ghofrani

No, it doesn’t

A low 40s point 2C is exactly what we need to miss the playoffs again

Enough with the 3rd liners playing above where they actually should be slotted.
- Powerslave

EXACTLY

Having guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot prevents adding guys like Frolik and Simmonds.

It’s a flat out win
- sbroads24

And it still prevents us from beating good teams as it hinders our ceiling greatly

And it still prevents us from beating good teams as it hinders our ceiling greatly
- jdfitz77

It does?

You aren’t getting a bonafide 2C for Risto.

Risto is not resigning here.

You down for two more years of him being overused and underperforming?

No, it doesn’t

A low 40s point 2C is exactly what we need to miss the playoffs again
- jdfitz77

I think you're too locked in on the point totals. His on ice impact is strong, and has been for most of his career.



https://twitter.com/JFres...tatus/1226534753597259777

It does?

You aren’t getting a bonafide 2C for Risto.

Risto is not resigning here.

You down for two more years of him being overused and underperforming?
- sbroads24

Kerfoot ? Bonafide ? what am I missing ? has Kerfoot done something that has made him a legit 2nd line center ?

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Kerfoot-Cozens
Johnsson-Mojo-Kahun
Asplund-Larsson-Okposo
- Pegullaville

Don’t think that’s good enough
Should be:

Olofsson/Skinner-Jack-Sam
Olofsson/Skinner- legit 2C - legit RW2
MoJo-Cozens-Kahun
Or if u insist on Cozens at RW, then
Kahun-MoJo-Cozens

Having guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot prevents adding guys like Frolik and Simmonds.

It’s a flat out win
- sbroads24

I mean as someone else pointed out it's a moot point because Dubas is never making this deal, but this kind of deal for Ristolainen would be ideal.

They are well past their sell by date on him. Getting anything of value in return is a win.

Jeff Skinner belongs on the 1st line, enough with the line shuffling regarding Skinner.

It does?

You aren’t getting a bonafide 2C for Risto.

Risto is not resigning here.

You down for two more years of him being overused and underperforming?
- sbroads24

Even if ALL this is true...
Playing Kerfoot at 2C is the same dumbass mistake we’ve been making since we could “easily replace ROR”

If you could get your hate for Risto out of your mind, then maybe you’d realize that we need a better 2C than that if we wanna make the playoffs

I think you're too locked in on the point totals. His on ice impact is strong, and has been for most of his career.



https://twitter.com/JFres...tatus/1226534753597259777
- Michael Ghofrani

The point totals matter MORE for whoever we wanna play at 2C because what we DESPERATELY NEED from that spot is SCORING

Even if ALL this is true...
Playing Kerfoot at 2C is the same dumbass mistake we’ve been making since we could “easily replace ROR”

If you could get your hate for Risto out of your mind, then maybe you’d realize that we need a better 2C than that if we wanna make the playoffs
- jdfitz77

It's one thing to argue that Kerfoot won't be able to handle those minutes, it's another to equate trying him there vs trying an overwhelmed Casey Mittelstadt or a winger in Marcus Johansson.

I mean as someone else pointed out it's a moot point because Dubas is never making this deal, but this kind of deal for Ristolainen would be ideal.

They are well past their sell by date on him. Getting anything of value in return is a win.
- Michael Ghofrani

A deal was in the works to move a Dman for Cirelli, so don't say Dubas doesn't do this deal like all of a sudden Kerfoot is ROR. Kerfoot is average and we have enough average on this team.

A deal was in the works to move a Dman for Cirelli, so don't say Dubas doesn't do this deal like all of a sudden Kerfoot is ROR. Kerfoot is average and we have enough average on this team.
- SABRES 89

Kerfoot is average, which is well above Ristolainen's impact.

I don't know about any deals for Cirelli. I'll eat my words/ink/virtual text if it comes to fruition.

It's one thing to argue that Kerfoot won't be able to handle those minutes, it's another to equate trying him there vs trying an overwhelmed Casey Mittelstadt or a winger in Marcus Johansson.
- Michael Ghofrani

Not really
ALL are bad ideas

Kerfoot is average, which is well above Ristolainen's impact.

I don't know about any deals for Cirelli. I'll eat my words/ink/virtual text if it comes to fruition.
- Michael Ghofrani

I do know

Not really
ALL are bad ideas
- jdfitz77

Alright