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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:18 AM ET
Perhaps it's different because he didn't need to play center. Maybe he didn't want to play there because he's uncomfortable playing the position at the NHL level. Methinks coaches have a good idea as to things like that
- Michael Pachla


So then you agree with how the coaches have used Risto too... right???
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:41 AM ET
https://fullpresscoverage.com/2020/07/02/khl-president-talks-about-expansion/
- homiedclown

Apparently they havent learned from the NHL's mistakes.

Japan equals Arizona
Korea equals Florida
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:46 AM ET
Apparently they havent learned from the NHL's mistakes.

Japan equals Arizona
Korea equals Florida

- Mentalorgasm5


They already have a team in Beijing, so Beijing = Carolina?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 4 @ 12:56 AM ET
They already have a team in Beijing, so Beijing = Carolina?
- Wetbandit1

Thank You, we had to get Carolina in there somehow.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:16 AM ET
So then you agree with how the coaches have used Risto too... right???
- jdfitz77

IMO it has to be Reinhart not wanting to play center. They moved Johansson there but won’t try Reinhart again? Has anyone in the media asked Sam about playing center?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:15 AM ET
IMO it has to be Reinhart not wanting to play center. They moved Johansson there but won’t try Reinhart again? Has anyone in the media asked Sam about playing center?
- sbroads24


That was a big point i was trying to make before the ridiculous back & forth i got in

It’s just so weird that it wasn’t tried
And to my knowledge, no one in the media has reported a reason why

Also...
if Sam is refusing to play center for some reason,
ship his a$$ outta here, bc that’s BS
And u know I’ve been a fan of his from day 1
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
That was a big point i was trying to make before the ridiculous back & forth i got in

It’s just so weird that it wasn’t tried
And to my knowledge, no one in the media has reported a reason why

Also...
if Sam is refusing to play center for some reason,
ship his a$$ outta here, bc that’s BS
And u know I’ve been a fan of his from day 1

- jdfitz77

He's getting his pay day, so why do something that might change that.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:28 AM ET
So then you agree with how the coaches have used Risto too... right???
- jdfitz77

poor analogy...with sam it's a matter of position, with risto it's a matter of depth
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 8:34 AM ET
Man looking over the Senators depth and prospect pool, wow wish we could pull Brown or Batherson, would be some great additions.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:48 AM ET
Man looking over the Senators depth and prospect pool, wow wish we could pull Brown or Batherson, would be some great additions.
- Buff36

https://www.prosportstran...rades/Future/Senators.htm
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:48 AM ET
That was a big point i was trying to make before the ridiculous back & forth i got in

It’s just so weird that it wasn’t tried
And to my knowledge, no one in the media has reported a reason why

Also...
if Sam is refusing to play center for some reason,
ship his a$$ outta here, bc that’s BS
And u know I’ve been a fan of his from day 1

- jdfitz77

it was tried...it was tried at traverse city in 2014, it was tried before his nine-game nhl stint was over and he was sent back to junior...it was tried numerous times in numerous preseasons...it was tried by bylsma, it was tried by housley...

ralph had the choice between johansson and reinhart, two very similar players with similar negatives playing the position, as 2C and he chose the former...he likes sam as eichel's wing-man, as had skunk's previous two nhl coaches...i don't see what all the hullaballoo is about
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
poor analogy...with sam it's a matter of position, with risto it's a matter of depth
- Michael Pachla


Since O'reilly was traded, what Center depth?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 4 @ 9:45 AM ET
Since O'reilly was traded, what Center depth?
- kingcong39

What an absolute disaster of a trade by a moron of a putz GM. Set the organization back a decade. Completely FUBAR'd the ability to get any 2C worth a damn. Someone mentioned Calgary's lack of Center depth. Great point. I'll be shocked and amazed if Calgary moves Monahan without getting a good or upcoming Center back in return. Loser Botterill wasn't smart enough to do the same with ROR. Now it is going to take 3ER level thinking to be able to get one in here. 3 team trade or you'll be parting ways with someone you don't want to. GMTM was a magician and stocked the roster just so a total fraidy cat loser could completely destroy the organization. Way to blow.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 4 @ 9:49 AM ET
What an absolute disaster of a trade by a moron of a putz GM. Set the organization back a decade. Completely FUBAR'd the ability to get any 2C worth a damn. Someone mentioned Calgary's lack of Center depth. Great point. I'll be shocked and amazed if Calgary moves Monahan without getting a good or upcoming Center back in return. Loser Botterill wasn't smart enough to do the same with ROR. Now it is going to take 3ER level thinking to be able to get one in here. 3 team trade or you'll be parting ways with someone you don't want to. GMTM was a magician and stocked the roster just so a total fraidy cat loser could completely destroy the organization. Way to blow.
- Hatboro_Swords

rainbow logos are more important then icing a decent team


pay attention

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:58 AM ET
What an absolute disaster of a trade by a moron of a putz GM. Set the organization back a decade. Completely FUBAR'd the ability to get any 2C worth a damn. Someone mentioned Calgary's lack of Center depth. Great point. I'll be shocked and amazed if Calgary moves Monahan without getting a good or upcoming Center back in return. Loser Botterill wasn't smart enough to do the same with ROR. Now it is going to take 3ER level thinking to be able to get one in here. 3 team trade or you'll be parting ways with someone you don't want to. GMTM was a magician and stocked the roster just so a total fraidy cat loser could completely destroy the organization. Way to blow.
- Hatboro_Swords

in actuality, one could make the argument that gmtm was in large part responsible for the return on ror...

dig...

it's been said that there were numerous offers on the table that were much better if the sabres were willing to pay ror's $7.5 million bonus...who was responsible for a contract that paid out all but $7 million of a $52.5 million deal in bonuses?

yeah, exactly...

come at me



Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 4 @ 10:04 AM ET
What an absolute disaster of a trade by a moron of a putz GM. Set the organization back a decade. Completely FUBAR'd the ability to get any 2C worth a damn. Someone mentioned Calgary's lack of Center depth. Great point. I'll be shocked and amazed if Calgary moves Monahan without getting a good or upcoming Center back in return. Loser Botterill wasn't smart enough to do the same with ROR. Now it is going to take 3ER level thinking to be able to get one in here. 3 team trade or you'll be parting ways with someone you don't want to. GMTM was a magician and stocked the roster just so a total fraidy cat loser could completely destroy the organization. Way to blow.
- Hatboro_Swords



Solid post:

Just curious of the formula?

Botts set the Sabres back 10 years
How far were we ahead with gmtm?


For example:

+8 years with tmgm -10 years with jbotts = -2 years still behind

Should be good in 2023 ?
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Jul 4 @ 10:28 AM ET
His defensive play is atrocious couple that with his poor decision making in the defensive zone. Stay far far away.
- devias69


Gardiners offensive game is not much to write home about either!
Last 2 seasons.
GP G A PTS
62 3 27 30
68 4 20 24
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 10:44 AM ET
What an absolute disaster of a trade by a moron of a putz GM. Set the organization back a decade. Completely FUBAR'd the ability to get any 2C worth a damn. Someone mentioned Calgary's lack of Center depth. Great point. I'll be shocked and amazed if Calgary moves Monahan without getting a good or upcoming Center back in return. Loser Botterill wasn't smart enough to do the same with ROR. Now it is going to take 3ER level thinking to be able to get one in here. 3 team trade or you'll be parting ways with someone you don't want to. GMTM was a magician and stocked the roster just so a total fraidy cat loser could completely destroy the organization. Way to blow.
- Hatboro_Swords

Thought you left to go bang sorry mean train horses in Florida TM. Yeah stocked roster.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
https://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Future/Senators.htm
- homiedclown

They are loading up, would like to pluck some of them.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
Man looking over the Senators depth and prospect pool, wow wish we could pull Brown or Batherson, would be some great additions.
- Buff36


Ottawa is going to be the best team in the league in 2 years.

They will have prospects and picks t move if they need to.

They will have a crap ton of young talent coming up.

Already have young talent on the roster.

11 picks in the first or 2nd rd next two years.

DAMN!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Ottawa is going to be the best team in the league in 2 years.

They will have prospects and picks t move if they need to.

They will have a crap ton of young talent coming up.

Already have young talent on the roster.

11 picks in the first or 2nd rd next two years.

DAMN!

- ImThatGuy



I'm sure Sens fans were saying that about us 5 years ago.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm sure Sens fans were saying that about us 5 years ago.
- Powerslave

Yeah it's to bad we traded all those picks and prospects away for that quick fix
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Yeah it's to bad we traded all those picks and prospects away for that quick fix
- Buff36



And even if the Sens hit on half of those, it'll take 5 years at least to fix that, if they don't ruin those kids by force feeding them, ala Edm.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
And even if the Sens hit on half of those, it'll take 5 years at least to fix that, if they don't ruin those kids by force feeding them, ala Edm.
- Powerslave

They were starting to play decent hockey by the end there, got 3 very good prospects that will hit the NHL this year for them permanently with Brannstrom, Batherson and Brown. 2 to 3 yrs and they are gonna be a monster to play against.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 4 @ 11:02 AM ET
They were starting to play decent hockey by the end there, got 3 very good prospects that will hit the NHL this year for them permanently with Branstrom, Bathersen and Brown. 2 to 3 yrs and they are gonna be a monster to play against.
- Buff36



Possibly. As we've all seen, having a great prospect pool w tons of draft picks doesn't mean anything unless they're utilized or flipped correctly.

As Boomer likes to say, that's why they play the games.
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