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Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Unless it’s #1 or #2 stick with where we are.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 1 @ 1:41 PM ET
I agree. Last blog we were talking about guys 3-9/10 are probably the same caliber player. I don't think you're moving up unless you are certain one guy is going to project so much farther than the current field. Listening to our new head of scouting the other day, he reiterated how each of these guys may have a different skill or intangible that rank them higher than others, and they need to draft the guy that fits the future of the NHL, not the present, not the past.
- TheSabresTaco


I tend to agree, it's just an option worth considering if the price happens to be a player you *should* be trying to move on from. The draft may shake out different than we expect after 2nd overall, may give the sabres a window to grab the player they have highly ranked.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
I worked a deal in teh leafs thread that was

Johansson
Bracco
Kerfoot

for Risto

That would allow the Sabres to let go of

girgensons
Simmonds
Frolik

Possibly even Larsson

yes not high first line level guys, but guys that can produce.

- ImThatGuy



I wouldn't hate the acquisition.

I'm great w Kerfoot, if he's our 3C. Now we're doing something.

I just wanna see the Sabres actually go get a legit 2C.


Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
I wouldn't hate the acquisition.

I'm great w Kerfoot, if he's our 3C. Now we're doing something.

I just wanna see the Sabres actually go get a legit 2C.

- Powerslave



Have to wonder how many options exist that are better than a sheltered Dylan Cozens.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
I cant wait for the draft.. I like mine from my kegerator at about 34 degree F.

As far as picking 8th, who the frank cares that player wont help for 2-3 years. If it were me I would package the 8th along with Risto, Mitts and any other prospects (not Dylan) for a scoring winger and a proven 2nd line center. Or hell take a stab at signing Hall in whenever the frank the off season is.

- hehateme


Every player and pick should be on the table to improve the team. Just don't do Griffin Reinhart for Mat Barzal.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
I tend to agree, it's just an option worth considering if the price happens to be a player you *should* be trying to move on from. The draft may shake out different than we expect after 2nd overall, may give the sabres a window to grab the player they have highly ranked.
- Michael Ghofrani


Sure. But what if, say, we want to move on from Montour. So you use 8 and Montour to go to 5. Sounds plausible. You get player A, who, after 3 years, is no better, slightly better or slightly worse than player B, picked at 8. You just lost Montour for literally nothing.

Or you could sit pat, have that exact same A & B scenario, and use Montour and, I don't know, Thompson, Davidsson or Bryson to pick up an under rated winger like Kahun, or a Jokiharju. Now that's asset management. Keeping what you want and giving up what you don't need.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Every player and pick should be on the table to improve the team. Just don't do Griffin Reinhart for Mat Barzal.
- TheSabresTaco



We should be doing the opposite and trading Risto and maybe drafting a Lundell.
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
How the (frank) do we move forward when all anyone wants to do is point a (frank)ing finger.
- TheSabresTaco


Simple: I demand my family "be an example" (it the only thing I can kinda control)
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
As an outsider, I really appreciate your perspective. I don't mean to assume, but you may be a bit.. I don't know.. nieve..misinformed? Ignorant? Not sure what word I'm looking for. I definitely am not intending to be insulting here.

The approach on the surface is good: This isn't working, burn it down. But then you realize, their constant failures have (frank)ed this organization for almost a decade. Constant missteps, constant bad PR, constant bad hirings, constant firings. They're not hiring the right people the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th time over. The fact that they HAD to burn down the front office AND their private company, PSE, says a lot about how lacking they are in knowing what they don't know.

- TheSabresTaco


I'll admit to being pretty ignorant on the subject ..
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
I tend to agree, it's just an option worth considering if the price happens to be a player you *should* be trying to move on from. The draft may shake out different than we expect after 2nd overall, may give the sabres a window to grab the player they have highly ranked.
- Michael Ghofrani



GMKA needs to shake this core up, reasoning for this organization to choose long term starts with trading Eichel. Once that happens moving up in the draft is either included or can be the next step.

Laser focus on roster surgery, team needs grit and endurance.

Risto
Rhino
Montour
Miller
Tage
Mitts
Hutton
8OA

Let the crap Botts aquired while desperate walk


GMKA put your blinders on, laser focus on the run to the playoffs next season

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
I wouldn't hate the acquisition.

I'm great w Kerfoot, if he's our 3C. Now we're doing something.

I just wanna see the Sabres actually go get a legit 2C.

- Powerslave


If Kerfoot is the best option out there, which we will never probably know, for a reasonable price, I can survive watching him at 2C for one year. I can tell you I wouldn't be too happy about it, but it's at least reasonable.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Simple: I demand my family "be an example" (it the only thing I can kinda control)
- farooge


A wonderful idea you'd hope Americans could embrace. Unfortunately it's not reality.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sure. But what if, say, we want to move on from Montour. So you use 8 and Montour to go to 5. Sounds plausible. You get player A, who, after 3 years, is no better, slightly better or slightly worse than player B, picked at 8. You just lost Montour for literally nothing.

Or you could sit pat, have that exact same A & B scenario, and use Montour and, I don't know, Thompson, Davidsson or Bryson to pick up an under rated winger like Kahun, or a Jokiharju. Now that's asset management. Keeping what you want and giving up what you don't need.

- TheSabresTaco


This is certainly one scenario. The other is that, like in many past years, the guy at 5 is markedly better than the guy at 8th. Using a strong example here, but there aren't enough kahun's in the world to make up for the gap between mittelstadt and pettersson. Alternatively, you could have that player fall to you at 8 like William Nylander.

I don't pretend like this is risk free, just an option worth considering.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
I'll admit to being pretty ignorant on the subject ..
- farooge



If you're bored and legitimately interested, there's plenty of articles about the Pegulas in recent weeks and months from The Athletic and The Buffalo News exposing some of the horsepoop that the Pegulas play with.

I believe from the people who met them, myself as one, that they are genuinely nice and try their best to be informed. But what it comes back to, all the time, is that they don't have the right people in place and it makes them look really, really bad, often. That, and there's a perception that they don't have the money to compete in hockey. It's not proven, it's simply speculation from Terry's comments like "leaner" "effective, efficient, economic" and them canning more than half of the hockey and hockey related business staff, along with Kim wanting to "preserve their lifestyle."

Some people think they just don't have or want to spend the money on the team, while some people, myself included, believe they want to run their business more efficiently, which, I mean, they should always be doing, and want to can the people that are bringing negative value, which they should. If the Sabres are not a cap team in the next few years, then I will side with those who think they aren't providing the funds to compete.
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
Ok loser

Like others havent posted wrong guesses around here.

Why change your name and hide?

Your covid responses are surely accurate todd k

- Boss34


I wish there was a way to identify and isolate people like this in a way that couldn't be gamed (at least until they proved they could play well with others)
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
A wonderful idea you'd hope Americans could embrace. Unfortunately it's not reality.
- TheSabresTaco


come on man .. wtf? (i'm out)
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
I agree. I don’t know why Boss has to all the time
- Alex the Great


Says the guy who’s made ONE post about hockey today... and about 10 or so trying to antagonize other posters

Hypocrisy at its finest
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Guess you wait until the draft and see how it's falling and who is still available when 5 comes up. That will give you a see at who might still be there at 8.
- Buff36

Top 5 are pretty good picks. Don’t see anything strange happening. It’s 6th & beyond where it can shuffle up.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
Love the Lindholm idea, but this Kerfoot as the 2C love affair needs to stop.
- Powerslave

Waste of time getting him. Not the answer.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
come on man .. wtf?
- farooge


Having every household in America having the mindset of "here's the problem, let's find a solution, be accountable?"

That's how my house is run. Based on what I see every day in all sides of media, that's not America's ideals. And it's disappointing.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
Have to wonder how many options exist that are better than a sheltered Dylan Cozens.
- Michael Ghofrani



I'm sure there aren't many, which probably drives the price up.

We need to find our Warrener/Reinprecht for Drury/Begin deal
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Top 5 are pretty good picks. Don’t see anything strange happening. It’s 6th & beyond where it can shuffle up.
- Nighthawk


Detroit's in the top 5, so get ready for Sanderson at #4.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
I worked a deal in teh leafs thread that was

Johansson
Bracco
Kerfoot

for Risto

That would allow the Sabres to let go of

girgensons
Simmonds
Frolik

Possibly even Larsson

yes not high first line level guys, but guys that can produce.

- ImThatGuy

Johansson yes
Kerfoot a soft 3C no thx
Bracco an AHLer

You need stability not more bodies up front.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:05 PM ET
Michael Ghofrani: Is Trading Up A Worthwhile Option For The Buffalo Sabres
- Michael Ghofrani


From the list u provided,
I don’t see much of a difference at all between who got picked 5 & who went 8th
Both had some busts, some decent players, and some really good players

Also...
why is no one talking about Jack Quinn as a potential pick for us?
Admittedly, i haven’t done my due diligence on these draft prospects... but assuming the draft falls like it’s supposed to.....
I’m taking him or Holtz
We NEED a goal scoring RW, do we not?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:05 PM ET
If Kerfoot is the best option out there, which we will never probably know, for a reasonable price, I can survive watching him at 2C for one year. I can tell you I wouldn't be too happy about it, but it's at least reasonable.
- TheSabresTaco



If he can put up 50 points, which I know he was close to doing in Colorado, I'm good w the one year placeholder.

But obviously you don't know that beforehand
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