Montour or Ristolainen (Calgary fan wants Ristolainen to QB the Power Play as that's a need) plus for Mikael Backlund (Homie's idea).
- kingcong39

fun with stats time from natural stat trick...from '19-20 flames forwards featuring backlund, bennett, our friend frolik and a centre of interest, monahan:

CF%
3--Frolik, 52.04%
5- Backlund 51.11
10 Bennett 49.65
11 Monahan 49.52

SF%
4- Backlund 50.57
6- Frolik 50.12
10 Monahan 48.50
13 Bennett 47.63

GF%
4- Backlund 52.13
10 Bennett 48.17
13 Monahan 44.05
15 Frolik 31.03

xGF%
5-Bennett 52.59
8- Backlund 50.68
10 Frolik 50.07
14 Monahan 40.03

SCF%
4- Bennett 51.76
5- Frolik 51.12
6- Backlund 50.63
14 Monahan 46.83

HDCF%
5- Backlund 53.43
6- Bennett 51.46
8- Frolik 50.78
15 Monahan 48.02

HDGF%
3- Backlund 57.78
12 Monahan 43.90
13 Frolik 42.68
15 Bennett 40.00

PDO
4- Backlund 1.006
8- Bennett 1.002
13 Monahan .986
17 Frolik .945

OZ%
3- Monahan 60.06
7- Backlund 53.50
8- Frolik 52.07
9- Bennett 50.82

EV TOI/GP
3- Monahan 15:12
4- Backlund 14:57
11 Bennett 11:43
12 Frolik 10:47


Top-2 linemates from Dobber:

Backlund--Tkachuk, Mangiapane (30.31%)...Monahan, Gaudreau (14.64)
Monahan--Gaudreau, Lindholm (41.42)...Backlund, Gaudreau (14.29)
Bennett--Mark Jankowski, Tobias Reider (12.24)...Lucic, Derek Ryan (11.44)
Frolik--Backlund, Tkachuk (19.26)...Jankowski, Reider (16.63)


I have no problem trading for Backlund, but he has a ntc, and the question is, would he wave to come to buffalo...he's also 31 yrs. old and on a $5.3M cap-hit that takes him into his mid-30's

for all the hate bennett gets, his advanced stats aren't all that bad...he generates chances with sub-par linemates but has had trouble finishing...

i'll still own that trade

You were a crappier fan when you cheered for losses, and we ended up with nylander and casey middle fat 🙂
- Boss34

Cluelesssville isn’t even a real Sabres fan. Total fraud picks his favorite teams based on who is good. Get him out of here. He can go cheer for a team in the 3rd World country he lives in.

fun with stats time from natural stat trick...from '19-20 flames forwards featuring backlund, bennett, our friend frolik and a centre of interest, monahan:

CF%
3--Frolik, 52.04%
5- Backlund 51.11
10 Bennett 49.65
11 Monahan 49.52

SF%
4- Backlund 50.57
6- Frolik 50.12
10 Monahan 48.50
13 Bennett 47.63

GF%
4- Backlund 52.13
10 Bennett 48.17
13 Monahan 44.05
15 Frolik 31.03

xGF%
5-Bennett 52.59
8- Backlund 50.68
10 Frolik 50.07
14 Monahan 40.03

SCF%
4- Bennett 51.76
5- Frolik 51.12
6- Backlund 50.63
14 Monahan 46.83

HDCF%
5- Backlund 53.43
6- Bennett 51.46
8- Frolik 50.78
15 Monahan 48.02

HDGF%
3- Backlund 57.78
12 Monahan 43.90
13 Frolik 42.68
15 Bennett 40.00

PDO
4- Backlund 1.006
8- Bennett 1.002
13 Monahan .986
17 Frolik .945

OZ%
3- Monahan 60.06
7- Backlund 53.50
8- Frolik 52.07
9- Bennett 50.82

EV TOI/GP
3- Monahan 15:12
4- Backlund 14:57
11 Bennett 11:43
12 Frolik 10:47

Top-2 linemates from Dobber:

Backlund--Tkachuk, Mangiapane (30.31%)...Monahan, Gaudreau (14.64)
Monahan--Gaudreau, Lindholm (41.42)...Backlund, Gaudreau (14.29)
Bennett--Mark Jankowski, Tobias Reider (12.24)...Lucic, Derek Ryan (11.44)
Frolik--Backlund, Tkachuk (19.26)...Jankowski, Reider (16.63)

I have no problem trading for Backlund, but he has a ntc, and the question is, would he wave to come to buffalo...he's also 31 yrs. old and on a $5.3M cap-hit that takes him into his mid-30's

for all the hate bennett gets, his advanced stats aren't all that bad...he generates chances with sub-par linemates but has had trouble finishing...

i'll still own that trade
- Michael Pachla

Nice to read you are going down with the ship.

One player plays a position of dire need and actually produces goals and assists while the other struggles with that.

One is a known commodity, consistent, veteran Center who can help support Eichel while allowing Cozens time to develop at the NHL level.

The other is a hope, and still an unknown.

The Flames could not say yes fast enough to only having to give up Bennett and a 2021 2nd for Montour.

Also, it appears they would prefer Ristolainen.

Are you trading Ristolainen for Bennett and a 2021 2nd?

Cluelesssville isn’t even a real Sabres fan. Total fraud picks his favorite teams based on who is good. Get him out of here. He can go cheer for a team in the 3rd World country he lives in.
- Hatboro_Swords

Sabres = not good
Broncos = not good
Raptors= good ,but I assume local to flacco?


I'll give you the Broncos, peyton did win a championship recently

Sabres = not good
Broncos = not good
Raptors= good ,but I assume local to flacco?


I'll give you the Broncos, peyton did win a championship recently
- Boss34

They were good the year before he decided to become a fan. I guess not total fraud because he stuck it out, but still a bandwagon hopping fraud.

Nice to read you are going down with the ship.

One player plays a position of dire need and actually produces goals and assists while the other struggles with that.

One is a known commodity, consistent, veteran Center who can help support Eichel while allowing Cozens time to develop at the NHL level.

The other is a hope, and still an unknown.

The Flames could not say yes fast enough to only having to give up Bennett and a 2021 2nd for Montour.

Also, it appears they would prefer Ristolainen.

Are you trading Ristolainen for Bennett and a 2021 2nd?
- kingcong39

what makes you think backlund would waive his ntc to come to buffalo?
if he did, what are you sending to calgary to complete the trade?

speaking of unknowns, the Ducks got the 29th-overall for Montour, an area of he draft which has much more unknowns than knowns...and Guhle was a second round pick...there's really not that much of a difference in returns

Athletics top 50 prospects who have been drafted already

Good news Cozens is #1 (Zegras was #2)

Kaliyev #8 (thanks Botts!)

Vilardi #11 who we didn’t take over Mitts.


Only had the top names but did not see Mitts or Johnson

what makes you think backlund would waive his ntc to come to buffalo?
if he did, what are you sending to calgary to complete the trade?

speaking of unknowns, the Ducks got the 29th-overall for Montour, an area of he draft which has much more unknowns than knowns...and Guhle was a second round pick...there's really not that much of a difference in returns
- Michael Pachla

I didn't say he would, but he would be the target on the Flames, not Bennett.

If he doesn't waive, move on.

There is zero point moving on from Montour or Ristolainen for an NHL player that does not address the team needs, unless you are going strictly for futures and clearing their cap hit from the team (meaning picks and prospects only).

An example of futures would be attempting to pry Alex Newhook from the Avalanche.

You're also acting like Guhle wasn't thought of highly at the time (he was).

I didn't say he would, but he would be the target on the Flames, not Bennett.

If he doesn't waive, move on.

There is zero point moving on from Montour or Ristolainen for an NHL player that does not address the team needs, unless you are going strictly for futures and clearing their cap hit from the team (meaning picks and prospects only).

An example of futures would be attempting to pry Alex Newhook from the Avalanche.

You're also acting like Guhle wasn't thought of highly at the time (he was).
- kingcong39

odds are he won't, so it's time to move on...but what are you moving on to next?

newhook?...and colorado's gonna give away Wheeler's No. 4 overall prospect for a package that Buffalo is going to put together?...one which includes the analytically reviled risto or montour, who's coming off of a poor season?

what is the offer you're sending the 'lanche?

Athletics top 50 prospects who have been drafted already

Good news Cozens is #1 (Zegras was #2)

Kaliyev #8 (thanks Botts!)

Vilardi #11 who we didn’t take over Mitts.

Only had the top names but did not see Mitts or Johnson
- Fattony1187

Just looked and Cozens was the only Sabres player listed in the top 50.

What’s the latest on Kim Pegula’s scouting report?

odds are he won't, so it's time to move on...but what are you moving on to next?

newhook?...and colorado's gonna give away Wheeler's No. 4 overall prospect for a package that Buffalo is going to put together?...one which includes the analytically reviled risto or montour, who's coming off of a poor season?

what is the offer you're sending the 'lanche?
- Michael Pachla

What I would do would be the following (listing the core of each trade):

Ristolainen to Winnipeg for Copp
Montour to Toronto for Kerfoot and Johnsson

Just looked and Cozens was the only Sabres player listed in the top 50.
- kingcong39

That is no good. How does that happen with how bad we have sucked. Damn Botts was bad

That is no good. How does that happen with how bad we have sucked. Damn Botts was bad
- Fattony1187

Taking low ceiling, safe players like Samuelsson and Johnson instead of players like Arthur Kaliyev is a big reason why.

Sabres = not good
Broncos = not good
Raptors= good ,but I assume local to flacco?


I'll give you the Broncos, peyton did win a championship recently
- Boss34

My uncle has been a fan of the Broncos since he was my age. I have Kyle Orton, Jay Cutler, and Knowshon Moreno jerseys. I have rooted for them long before Peyton showed up.

My favourite colour in royal blue. If I’m being honest with you I became a fan because of RJ and the sweaters. His goal calls and the sheer emotion and watching an entire city’s passion for sports and their teams was appealing to me.

I live in the middle of both Buffalo and Toronto and I gravitated to Buffalo.

What I would do would be the following (listing the core of each trade):

Ristolainen to Winnipeg for Copp
Montour to Toronto for Kerfoot and Johnsson
- kingcong39

am pretty sure copp is a third-iine center who plays up a notch out of necessity...28 pts. is his career high and bennett's got that beat (36)

if you can get that from toronto, then go for it...i think it's a pipe dream

Just looked and Cozens was the only Sabres player listed in the top 50.
- kingcong39

Samuelsson 88
Johnson 92

Well if not for the thumb and wrist injury Cozens probably makes the team last year. So do you put him at 2C and let him go at it, and use your assets to improve the team around him and Eichel, or do you still try to shelter and find a stop gap 2C. Let the kid roll, he's a whole different monster than Mitts, make the team stronger around him.

Taking low ceiling, safe players like Samuelsson and Johnson instead of players like Arthur Kaliyev is a big reason why.
- kingcong39

Since many of those scouts are free now I would love an interview by a prominent one to state their truthful rationale as to why they chose safe players like Samuelsson and Johnson than like Kaliyev. Even if they did it as a no-name source former Sabres scout. Maybe they can go through all of last years draft and the thinking.

Samuelsson 88
Johnson 92
- Buff36

Botterill/Bum36 caliber players. Now what I mean?

Since many of those scouts are free now I would love an interview by a prominent one to state their truthful rationale as to why they chose safe players like Samuelsson and Johnson than like Kaliyev. Even if they did it as a no-name source former Sabres scout. Maybe they can go through all of last years draft and the thinking.
- GilPerreault11

No reason Kaliyev shouldn’t have been the pick there. We needed a goal scoring wing and he was an easy pick when still available

Botterill/Bum36 caliber players. Now what I mean?
- Hatboro_Swords

Well some of those players on that list were drafted in 2015-16,2016-17. Where's your players TM, you did such a great job of drafting, come on where are all your picks TM, got what 4 or 5 players from your drafts helping the team. Most of Botts picks are still a few years away. TM go back to Florida and keep banging sorry training your horses, maybe you will get that right.

Well some of those players on that list were drafted in 2015-16,2016-17. Where's your players TM, you did such a great job of drafting, come on where are all your picks TM, got what 4 or 5 players from your drafts helping the team. Most of Botts picks are still a few years away. TM go back to Florida and keep banging sorry training your horses, maybe you will get that right.
- Buff36

Few years away. Yeah ok. You’re a total loser. Just like Botterill.

Well if not for the thumb and wrist injury Cozens probably makes the team last year. So do you put him at 2C and let him go at it, and use your assets to improve the team around him and Eichel, or do you still try to shelter and find a stop gap 2C. Let the kid roll, he's a whole different monster than Mitts, make the team stronger around him.
- Buff36

I don't know if he makes the team just because the Botterill philosophy was all about "development", but he definitely makes the decision harder.

Few years away. Yeah ok. You’re a total loser. Just like Botterill.
- Hatboro_Swords

Coming from you TM, I won't lose much sleep over it.