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Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
👍

It's tough to post about sam, there's a sensitive clown lurking.

Hopefully dahlin and cozens explode onto the scene in 2021. They will command big bucks.

- Boss34

2021? You're a Cancel Culturer? I understand the leeches of society like Covid Broadary would rather drag this out as long as possible and stay unemployed like a slob, but you too? Say it aint so Bossman. We need to get the country humming again. That includes entertainment and monetary value that sports provide. I'm of the opinion you're going to get the Rona whether you're home or taking full advantage of your season tickets. Get people in the stadiums. Get busy living or get busy dying

LAW AND ORDER while we're at it too!

EDIT: *Checks Gallup* Yup still #1 on this board
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 7 @ 6:20 PM ET
No he wouldn't stay away from These over rated goalies
- gerbe75pts


While I agree Matt Murray is overrated ...... he’s much better than ullmark or Hutton
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:24 PM ET
How about a picture of your reinhart skirt?

Xxl in the back

Xxs in the front
😁

- Boss34

personal attacks again?


how about bringing a few hockey takes, I am still waiting for your first one this month
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 7 @ 6:24 PM ET
Yeah, they can't keep the same "studs" and pay them like it and expect a change in much of the record. How do they get the 2nd line center? Many coaches go with 2 solid players per line. They could go with Jack and Skinner; 2nd line center they trade for and OV, Cozens and Kuhun or Moho. The team is better already.
- GilPerreault11

I see him with similar value to William Nylander at 6.9 mil.

Both 55-65 point players who people have questioned how much they can do on their own.

Sabres really can't afford to toss away top 6 talent right now. Murray did a piss poor job getting forwards and Botterill did little as well

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:25 PM ET
I wasn't the biggest Reinhart fan (Still am not some occasions) but Jack's numbers are unanimously better across the board when Sam is on the ice with him. Obviously Jack is much better, but I think he helps Eichel more than being dragged along for the ride.

Question is how much is that worth?

- sbroads24

8 year 7 mil per

5 year 6 mil per
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 7 @ 6:26 PM ET
2021? You're a Cancel Culturer? I understand the leeches of society like Covid Broadary would rather drag this out as long as possible and stay unemployed like a slob, but you too? Say it aint so Bossman. We need to get the country humming again. That includes entertainment and monetary value that sports provide. I'm of the opinion you're going to get the Rona whether you're home or taking full advantage of your season tickets. Get people in the stadiums. Get busy living or get busy dying

LAW AND ORDER while we're at it too!

EDIT: *Checks Gallup* Yup still #1 on this board

- Hatboro_Swords

I found employment. Your father is still missing though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:26 PM ET
It's my fault. Was feeling vindictive today so I triggered the little piglet.
- RhinoFan

he would have brought it up at some point today anyhow


skunk is a top 30 winger in the league riding jack's coat tail



most great centers ave a constant winger during their tenure, some can't accept the skunk is jack's constant


JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jul 7 @ 6:33 PM ET
2021? You're a Cancel Culturer? I understand the leeches of society like Covid Broadary would rather drag this out as long as possible and stay unemployed like a slob, but you too? Say it aint so Bossman. We need to get the country humming again. That includes entertainment and monetary value that sports provide. I'm of the opinion you're going to get the Rona whether you're home or taking full advantage of your season tickets. Get people in the stadiums. Get busy living or get busy dying

LAW AND ORDER while we're at it too!

EDIT: *Checks Gallup* Yup still #1 on this board

- Hatboro_Swords

What are you on about? The next game the Sabres play will be in 2021 because that's when next season (hopefully) starts.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
Yeah, they can't keep the same "studs" and pay them like it and expect a change in much of the record. How do they get the 2nd line center? Many coaches go with 2 solid players per line. They could go with Jack and Skinner; 2nd line center they trade for and OV, Cozens and Kuhun or Moho. The team is better already.
- GilPerreault11


Good post

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 7 @ 6:51 PM ET
I'd hate to see those numbers with a pedestrian center or number 2 center, oh heck someone not named Jack dragging him along for the ride. Nice post Boss, it shines some light on a waste of a big contract if they re-sign to a hefty and long one. They would be just spinning their wheels with Skinner and Sam sucking up cap.
- GilPerreault11


Here... now u can see exactly what they are

https://www.expectedbuffa...duce-without-jack-eichel/

Sam produces slightly more with Jack than without
Not nearly enough to say he’s being “dragged along for the ride” though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:58 PM ET
Here... now u can see exactly what they are

https://www.expectedbuffa...duce-without-jack-eichel/

- jdfitz77

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 7 @ 6:59 PM ET

- homiedclown


BOOM 😂😂😂
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 7 @ 7:02 PM ET
2021? You're a Cancel Culturer? I understand the leeches of society like Covid Broadary would rather drag this out as long as possible and stay unemployed like a slob, but you too? Say it aint so Bossman. We need to get the country humming again. That includes entertainment and monetary value that sports provide. I'm of the opinion you're going to get the Rona whether you're home or taking full advantage of your season tickets. Get people in the stadiums. Get busy living or get busy dying

LAW AND ORDER while we're at it too!

EDIT: *Checks Gallup* Yup still #1 on this board

- Hatboro_Swords



I agree with sbroads more politically than his hockey takes.

Sabres wont play until January of 2021 most likely, even with a vaccine or this flu just goes away some day. Disappears....

Cancel culture depends on a case to case basis.

If you tell an American hero that lost both legs in Iraq, that she hates America. Probably should be cancelled.

I have parents that I see regularly, and the rest of my family to worry about. It's not about me, it's about them.
Gotta keep an eye out for your loved ones?

My best buddy just got the rona in buffalo. Playing poker. Didnt realize and flew to Florida . Was taking 0 precautions. Still cant smell properly and feels like he's been licking an ashe tray. 2 weeks +

Believe me, I was looking forward to this Bill's season. Home and away.

Tennessee on the long weekend
Vegas
San Francisco

I guess we agree to disagree 🤝

I kinda thought you were trolling with the trump thing. 🤔

How about lindy r though.......🤞

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
Here’s something i found interesting...

Corsica Hockey has Skinner ranked as the 46th best LW, even with the horrible season he just had

Not sure of everything that goes into their rankings, but i know GAR plays a part

I’m not a huge analytics guy,
but this does back up that he didn’t play as horribly as his low goals total would suggest

Makes me think there was a degree of bad luck involved, and we should expect a bounce back
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:06 PM ET

- homiedclown



one of my favorite gifs
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 7:32 PM ET


one of my favorite gifs

- Michael Pachla

agreed
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:32 PM ET
Here... now u can see exactly what they are

https://www.expectedbuffa...duce-without-jack-eichel/

Sam produces slightly more with Jack than without
Not nearly enough to say he’s being “dragged along for the ride” though

- jdfitz77


So, based on Bosses post not much more than Pomms numbers on the years right before retirement. Impressive. Let's give him a HUGE raise.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 7:49 PM ET
So, based on Bosses post not much more than Pomms numbers on the years right before retirement. Impressive. Let's give him a HUGE raise.
- GilPerreault11

reinhart has 200 points in his last his last 268 games .75 ppg

pommer had 65 points in his last 155 games .42 ppg


apples and oranges


plus same is going to get better


and pommers contract at the time, equates to about 7 mil per year due to what the cap went up
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 7:57 PM ET
How is he worse, what has Hutton done the last 2yrs for us. A big factor in us missing the playoffs this year, and what losing 25 games for us the year before.
- Buff36

Oh and I guess the games Ullmark lost were normal operations. Get off the Hutton lost everything. He’s a backup that is one of the best in the league. I’ll say if the Sabres want to dump him there will be numerous takers. You are barking up the wrong tree
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:03 PM ET
reinhart has 200 points in his last his last 268 games .75 ppg

pommer had 65 points in his last 155 games .42 ppg


apples and oranges


plus same is going to get better


and pommers contract at the time, equates to about 7 mil per year due to what the cap went up

- homiedclown



Yeah,

2 guys playing on the same team, the same year's is: apples and oranges.

Or

What 1 guy had in 268 games is on par with the other guy had in his last 155 games for 2 different teams.

Makes sense.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:07 PM ET
interesting interview with player agent steve bartlett on the instigators...he was asked about the 10% deferral for nhl players...the question was, how would it effect the salary cap...for instance, jack makes $10M but defers 10%, is his cap-hit $9M or does it remain the same?

bartlett didn't have a definitive answer but you know teams like Tampa and T.O. would love to have a scenario where that 10% deferral comes off the cap-hit for next season
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
I would guess many players, as has been said before, will be signing deals in the 2 to 3 year range, as that is when the cap ($81.5 for this coming season and next, and $83.5 for the 3rd season) will finally be going up again, in theory.
- kingcong39


Signing Sam to a 2 or 3 year deal would be a huge loss, after 2 years he's UFA and he'll have all the leverage.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 8:10 PM ET
Signing Sam to a 2 or 3 year deal would be a huge loss, after 2 years he's UFA and he'll have all the leverage.
- Wetbandit1

he stinks, trade him for a late 6th rd pick


Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:14 PM ET
Here’s something i found interesting...

Corsica Hockey has Skinner ranked as the 46th best LW, even with the horrible season he just had

Not sure of everything that goes into their rankings, but i know GAR plays a part

I’m not a huge analytics guy,
but this does back up that he didn’t play as horribly as his low goals total would suggest

Makes me think there was a degree of bad luck involved, and we should expect a bounce back

- jdfitz77


So a lower half 2nd line winger is worth the 11th highest salary in the league? Yikes
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 8:21 PM ET
So a lower half 2nd line winger is worth the 11th highest salary in the league? Yikes
- Fattony1187


I know right 😂
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