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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
NTC

Tyler Johnson

Alex Killorn

Yanni Gourde

Ryan McDonagh

Ondrej Palat


NMC

Victor Hedman

Steven Stamkos


Andrei Vasilevskiy NMC kicks in 21-22

Nikita Kucherov NMC kicks in 20-21

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
I don't get the love for Cirelli, what has he done to garner that much. I think Cozens could be better than him right know.
- Buff36


He's young, in just his 2nd full season, a complete 2 way forward and posting 0.65 PPG at age 22.
He's very, very solid with upside...he could turn into ROR.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
You're likely getting similar or better value. All factors considered.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah could be, I just think there's a few players to be had that can get you 50pts to 60pts without giving up the 8th. But again that's why I post on a message board, wrong most of the time.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Botterill was a pro at collecting common goods but couldn't snag that relic. Joker, he pounced on a dumb offer from Chicago and deserves props. Letting that 2C hole fester was, by far, his biggest downfall.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:45 AM ET
He's young, in just his 2nd full season, a complete 2 way forward and posting 0.65 PPG at age 22.
He's very, very solid with upside...he could turn into ROR.

- IonSabres

Yeah he turned it up a notch this year.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yeah could be, I just think there's a few players to be had that can get you 50pts to 60pts without giving up the 8th. But again that's why I post on a message board, wrong most of the time.
- Buff36


Points wise, you're right. But being, mentioned above, a young God, with his position and abilities, he's going to cost much more.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yeah could be, I just think there's a few players to be had that can get you 50pts to 60pts without giving up the 8th. But again that's why I post on a message board, wrong most of the time.
- Buff36

This team has done nothing for 20 years at the least and you are worried about the 8th overall pick, you better be more concerned that your franchise player is going to want out next year if things don't change. There will be nobody to tell Eichel anything different, he's gone if he doesn't see it.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
That was Botterill's target all along, has been for over a year now. They are getting a lot of calls on Montour, some on Miller and a couple for Casey. A couple teams want Pekar in a deal.
- SABRES 89

Hopefully Pekar stays. I wouldn't give him up. He seems like a poop talking pest that can get under other team's skin. That's my kind of player.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
Points wise, you're right. But being, mentioned above, a young God, with his position and abilities, he's going to cost much more.
- TheSabresTaco

Guess I am a little gun shy, I don't want the same thing that happened with ROR, get a good player but then give up so much to get him, that you don't have anything to put around him to use those talents, especially when Cozens comes.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Hopefully Pekar stays. I wouldn't give him up. He seems like a poop talking pest that can get under other team's skin. That's my kind of player.
- Hatboro_Swords


You don't say
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
I think the deal would include Sam and Mitts and we would have to take on longer term contract like Johnson or Gourde. According to CapFriendly, only NMC’s are Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman.
- Hatboro_Swords


If were trading sam, have to imagine other teams would include a cap dump. Who's paying him big $ and not worrying about limited cap space?

Tyler Johnson fits the profile
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Hopefully Pekar stays. I wouldn't give him up. He seems like a poop talking pest that can get under other team's skin. That's my kind of player.
- Hatboro_Swords

Brendan Lemieux says hello, everyone not wearing 9 or 26 should be on the table. From what I was told, Pegula better take Eichel seriously, Kim can't bulls$$t her way out of this. You make moves now to start moving forward not stay in neutral.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Many times, Hutton put the sabres in such a deep hole during the first period, they could not come back

so in many ways Hutton kept them from catching the Habs this season

but so did Krugeur and Botts for playing Hutton, knowing he only had 1 eye

there is room on the roster to carry a third goalie

- homiedclown


Hutton had an overall -7 differential in the first period of the 30 games he played.

The range was from -3 to +3.

Frequency of occurrence:

-3 = 2
-2 = 3
-1 = 7
0 = 10
+1 = 5
+2 = 2
+3 = 1

If you count being down by 2 or 3 as a deep hole, that happened 16% of the time (5 times total).
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
If were trading sam, have to imagine other teams would include a cap dump. Who's paying him big $ and not worrying about limited cap space?

Tyler Johnson fits the profile

- Boss34

Who's trading Sam ?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
You don't say
- TheSabresTaco

Exactly
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
This team has done nothing for 20 years at the least and you are worried about the 8th overall pick, you better be more concerned that your franchise player is going to want out next year if things don't change. There will be nobody to tell Eichel anything different, he's gone if he doesn't see it.
- SABRES 89


I take issue with this talk that Eichel is gone when he has a 10 million dollar contract for a few more years. He can sit out, and not make his money and pout but that contract is a silly, legal thing. He also has to play well to keep up his value for his next payday.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
If were trading sam, have to imagine other teams would include a cap dump. Who's paying him big $ and not worrying about limited cap space?

Tyler Johnson fits the profile

- Boss34

Correctamundo
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
This team has done nothing for 20 years at the least and you are worried about the 8th overall pick, you better be more concerned that your franchise player is going to want out next year if things don't change. There will be nobody to tell Eichel anything different, he's gone if he doesn't see it.
- SABRES 89

Never said not to trade it, just make sure it's the right deal. And don't want a 1 and done season of making the playoffs, but then we don't have the talent to put around these guys like happened with ROR, great to get good players, but you have to have people to play around them to.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 10:54 AM ET


If you count being down by 2 or 3 as a deep hole, that happened 16% of the time (5 times total).

- kingcong39

and one more win and they were ahead of the habs


thanks for making my point
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Who's trading Sam ?
- SABRES 89

sam and risto for a 7th
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
I take issue with this talk that Eichel is gone when he has a 10 million dollar contract for a few more years. He can sit out, and not make his money and pout but that contract is a silly, legal thing. He also has to play well to keep up his value for his next payday.
- GilPerreault11

Take it how ever you want it, no changes, he wants out. He's tired of the musical chairs with GM's and Coaches. The Sabres will get screwed due to his contract if they have to move him, the return may not be as good.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Who's trading Sam ?
- SABRES 89


Boss, continuously.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
I take issue with this talk that Eichel is gone when he has a 10 million dollar contract for a few more years. He can sit out, and not make his money and pout but that contract is a silly, legal thing. He also has to play well to keep up his value for his next payday.
- GilPerreault11


Yep, eichel can sit out and cry.

F him

F rinofan too
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
Never said not to trade it, just make sure it's the right deal. And don't want a 1 and done season of making the playoffs, but then we don't have the talent to put around these guys like happened with ROR, great to det good players, but you have to have people to play around them to.
- Buff36

What people ?what players ? you have to start winning or going in that direction to get players.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
Boss, continuously.
- TheSabresTaco

ok
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