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bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jul 1 @ 9:11 PM ET
Is your team going to pull off the ol’ fakeroo with the hossa facial skin disease to get the team compliant?

That was 0 class.

Whole bunch of horse sht.

You want the cups but you don’t want to pay the bill for those front loaded contracts.

Glad to see the league eventually called the team out on their scam.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 1 @ 9:33 PM ET
Is your team going to pull off the ol’ fakeroo with the hossa facial skin disease to get the team compliant?

That was 0 class.

Whole bunch of horse sht.

You want the cups but you don’t want to pay the bill for those front loaded contracts.

Glad to see the league eventually called the team out on their scam.

- bruceflyers


SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:46 PM ET
Is your team going to pull off the ol’ fakeroo with the hossa facial skin disease to get the team compliant?

That was 0 class.

Whole bunch of horse sht.

You want the cups but you don’t want to pay the bill for those front loaded contracts.

Glad to see the league eventually called the team out on their scam.

- bruceflyers


Thank you for stopping by, reminded me again about how the Flyers haven’t won a Cup in almost 50 years. I needed the laugh. I mean WOW almost FIFTY years?!? LOL Think about that for a second...how exactly is it being a fan of such a loser franchise? In such a loser city? Thx again.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
With the cap staying where it is, moving a player like Maatta gets more difficult because fewer teams will have $4M in cap space to spend on a 3rd pairing d-man.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:11 PM ET
Is your team going to pull off the ol’ fakeroo with the hossa facial skin disease to get the team compliant?

That was 0 class.

Whole bunch of horse sht.

You want the cups but you don’t want to pay the bill for those front loaded contracts.

Glad to see the league eventually called the team out on their scam.

- bruceflyers


Still mad that Byfuglien made Pronger his little b#tch?
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 1 @ 10:50 PM ET
Just saw Dudley is leaving Carolina. Talk of him going to Buffalo, but could he be McD’s replacement?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:06 PM ET
Just saw Dudley is leaving Carolina. Talk of him going to Buffalo, but could he be McD’s replacement?
- Popsghostly


Tha would be a 360 since he and Dale saw the he writing on the wall when Stan Bowman was Brough tto elevations.

Dudley's wig could stand the Chicago cold.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:07 PM ET
Thank you for stopping by, reminded me again about how the Flyers haven’t won a Cup in almost 50 years. I needed the laugh. I mean WOW almost FIFTY years?!? LOL Think about that for a second...how exactly is it being a fan of such a loser franchise? In such a loser city? Thx again.
- SimpleJack

May be you could higher another loser bowman yo make more horrible hockey decisions.

Now that’s tallon’s gone...don’t see much of a future.

Edmonton’s pretty lousy...don’t see much difficulty beating chicago.

May be 3 straight.

Then you guys can lose out on the lottery. Enjoy.

Like to stay and chat but i got a fake skin condition that i need to put some fake ointment on...
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:32 PM ET
May be you could higher another loser bowman yo make more horrible hockey decisions.

Now that’s tallon’s gone...don’t see much of a future.

Edmonton’s pretty lousy...don’t see much difficulty beating chicago.

May be 3 straight.

Then you guys can lose out on the lottery. Enjoy.

Like to stay and chat but i got a fake skin condition that i need to put some fake ointment on...

- bruceflyers


Cuz that's how LTIR works. I think someone may be a sore loser!
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 2 @ 12:12 AM ET
Tha would be a 360 since he and Dale saw the he writing on the wall when Stan Bowman was Brough tto elevations.

Dudley's wig could stand the Chicago cold.

- wiz1901


Ahhh... that’s right, my memory has faded in these lean years...
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 2 @ 8:59 AM ET
Just saw Dudley is leaving Carolina. Talk of him going to Buffalo, but could he be McD’s replacement?
- Popsghostly



That's not what Dudley does. He has an uncanny talent for helping teams rebuild but from behind the scenes. Any chance of him coming back here would depend on who replaces McD permanently. Buffalo is the perfect spot for him at this point with them being horsepoop and Dudley having played there years ago. Given a few years he's delivered every time. Look up hockey guy and there's his picture.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
Possibly.

After next season the cap situation looks better with Saad and Smith coming off the books. Maatta could be bought out, but the cap hit wouldn’t be as favourable as if he were bought out this off season.

- DarthKane


The Hawks will probably try to go the trade route with Maatta before exercising the buy out option. I think he has some value and could be packaged with other pieces going and other pieces coming back.



SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jul 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Higher a loser?

Oh man - that just made my day - I mean it used to only take a 'Rediculous' to do that, but man -the BAR has been set ... and it is HIGH.

ROFL....
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
Imo if the cap is going to be flat the next couple years and only go up maybe 2 million then the nhl should have a compliance buyout or 2. I guess we will see what happens.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
May be you could higher another loser bowman yo make more horrible hockey decisions.

Now that’s tallon’s gone...don’t see much of a future.

Edmonton’s pretty lousy...don’t see much difficulty beating chicago.

May be 3 straight.

Then you guys can lose out on the lottery. Enjoy.

Like to stay and chat but i got a fake skin condition that i need to put some fake ointment on...

- bruceflyers


Just ban this looser Bruce who is purposely trying to stir up discord. Find somewhere else to shoot off. You obviously have a problem and or are an unhappy person. Maybe you need counseling
You ever identify yourself around here you can bet someone would love to give you a fat lip..,.you get your jollies by annoying others..,,that says a lot about your maturity.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
May be you could higher another loser bowman yo make more horrible hockey decisions.

Now that’s tallon’s gone...don’t see much of a future.

Edmonton’s pretty lousy...don’t see much difficulty beating chicago.

May be 3 straight.

Then you guys can lose out on the lottery. Enjoy.

Like to stay and chat but i got a fake skin condition that i need to put some fake ointment on...

- bruceflyers


They say time heals all wounds? I guess 10 years hasn't been long enough.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
May be you could higher another loser bowman yo make more horrible hockey decisions.

Now that’s tallon’s gone...don’t see much of a future.

Edmonton’s pretty lousy...don’t see much difficulty beating chicago.

May be 3 straight.

Then you guys can lose out on the lottery. Enjoy.

Like to stay and chat but i got a fake skin condition that i need to put some fake ointment on...

- bruceflyers


Oh...pretty sure genital warts are real. You should have that checked out after your visit to a therapist.

Also, if we’re really going to discuss phantom issues and circumnavigation of questionable deals, look no further than your own backyard and Chris Pronger’s situation.

Didn’t know you could build a glass house under a bridge, but whateves...


Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jul 2 @ 11:46 AM ET
Happy Canada day tyler. I'm curious if the nhl goes to a flat cap for the next 2 to 4 years how does the nhl account for any new contracts being made and or not creating a stagnant product?

Wouldn't the nhl be better to set a salary cap ceiling of 98 million and a floor with each team being allowed 3 buyouts with no penalties? The reason I mention a ceiling cap being that high , is hockey has always struggled to gain viewers/fans and up until 2010 when the league started to become more relevant in the sports world , taking the hit now by increasing the cap to bridge the league for future growth and not losing any market shares due to stagnation?


Let me know your feed back
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
Higher a loser?

Oh man - that just made my day - I mean it used to only take a 'Rediculous' to do that, but man -the BAR has been set ... and it is HIGH.

ROFL....

- SC116

He's possibly the dumbest mother(frank)er on hockeybuzz and that's saying something lmao
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 2 @ 12:01 PM ET
Imo if the cap is going to be flat the next couple years and only go up maybe 2 million then the nhl should have a compliance buyout or 2. I guess we will see what happens.
- Scott1977

With all the money the owners are losing already i doubt they're are going to be any buy outs. It will be negotiated in the CBA.
Jance
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 03.25.2015

Jul 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
Is your team going to pull off the ol’ fakeroo with the hossa facial skin disease to get the team compliant?

That was 0 class.

Whole bunch of horse sht.

You want the cups but you don’t want to pay the bill for those front loaded contracts.

Glad to see the league eventually called the team out on their scam.

- bruceflyers


1. I'd be willing to put dollars to doughnuts that 99% of the Hawks organization, fans, and players would rather have an old Hossa playing than not. It's no coincidence that we haven't made the playoff since he was forced out.

2. The "creeping crud" is a known thing. It forced out Tom Reid to retire [
http://www.lockerroomdoct...0the%20game%20altogether.] Sounds like it's a lot more than just a "rash."

“It was pretty painful. It was at the point where my whole side was just pus. They couldn’t figure out what it was. I’d be wrapping towels around my body, which helped — the problem was when I had to take the towels off. I couldn’t sleep — for a while I was sleeping sitting upright in a wooden chair. It got to the point by the end where they couldn’t give me any more cortisone. I had to retire.”


Hossa said himself recently that it wasn't for the reaction to the equipment he would still be playing.

3. Wasn't Pronger still under contract with the Flyers while he took a job with the league? I seem to remember the LTIR him every year until they traded him to the coyotes. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with Pronger ending his career that way, same as I'm fine with Hossa. Neither is a made-up disease, and both were checked out by doctors and shown to have valid issues.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
With all the money the owners are losing already i doubt they're are going to be any buy outs. It will be negotiated in the CBA.
- GPHawksfan


Totally agree
Korab
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.27.2017

Jul 2 @ 1:41 PM ET
Awful lot of sunshine and rainbows from these bloggers, TC and Theo. I see this Blackhawks team as a mess of mediocrity. A huge collection of 3rd and 4th line forwards, 3rd paring defensemen and hopelessly overpaid and untradeable veterans. I hope they DON'T win the play in series. Does anyone seriously think this bunch would win an actual playoff series if they somehow got past Edmonton? I'd much rather have a shot at Lafreniere with a worst case of the #10 pick in the draft.

Face it, people. Talk about Hossa all you want. He's gone. There needs to be an unsentimental, top down rebuild of this mess, starting with an outside hire for head of hockey ops. Bowman needs to be kicked upstairs (pretty clear they're not going to fire him) and the new guy needs free reign to evaluate EVERYTHING. Colliton needs to be gone.

They need to look at trading players who can bring back some youth, speed and cost control in return. Saad should be shopped. They should see what they can get for Murphy, Maata and DeHaan. They'll probably get underwhelming return offers on all of them which means they'll be stuck with what they've got - and that tells you all you need to know. This team is full of worker bee players at zero to negative trade value.

And they should seriously stop being delusional about Duncan Keith being a #1 D. I love the guy as much as you all do but he's nowhere near that level anymore and will only go further into decline. I'd ask him if he's be willing to waive his rights to go to a team that can win right away (Paging Coach Q in Florida.) He may refuse and once again, they'd be stuck. But the hope-and-prayer stuff has got to stop. The Hawks defense is historically bad and will stay that way without huge changes.

Furthermore, the Hawks farm system is bad. Who is an impact player waiting to happen? There are none. Ian Mitchell looks like a nice player but NOT a #1 D. Regula has some promise but again, not a #1. Teply is promising but is he an true impact guy? Highly doubt it. Okay, so go ahead and argue that Dach and Boqvist are up with the big team and that's why the fam looks weak. Well, what does that tell you? On a good team both of those guys would have been getting some much needed experience in the minors last year instead of being shoved into NHL action before they're ready.

And I'm going to be sacreligious and further say I haven't seen anything from either of those 2 that says "special talent." Maybe they'll bust out and become that but I don't see it. Boqvist has offensive potential, he could be Bryan Campbell (who mentored him.) But that's not a #1. Dach could be good but I don't see greatness.

You want to talk what they REALLY should at least consider? Talking to Kane (confidentially of course) to see if he would entertain the notion being dealt to Buffalo. He'd probably say no and even if he'd consider it, I doubt the Sabres would give up the ransom it would take to make this worthwhile. But my point is, they need to consider radical change.

They should do anything and everything to clear cap space and then make a serious run at Torey Krug. A difference making D who's still young and great at both ends of the ice. Pietrangelo will be unattainable but Krug could be in the realm of possibility if the Hawks got serious about changing the whole program. They need impact, difference making players, especially on D and it will take radically different thinking to make this possible.

Short of trying for Krug and of the other things I've mentioned, they should be seeing what they can get for Strome. They should re-sign Kubalik. They should try to move every single member of the D corps as it stands who is not named Boqvist or Mitchell. Obviously easier said than done and I in no way endorse give aways of guys like Murphy, who is valuable and under appreciated. But all considered, it's time to start identifying who to build around. Who will be on the next Cup contending team... EVERYONE else should be the subject of intelligent, diligent attempts to trade for better value, younger, faster players or meaningful draft picks.

The Mad House on Madison has become the Mediocrity on Madison and if they don't start making fast, decisive and unsentimental changes, the Hawks are headed for being the Red Wings version 2.0, who are now in their 4th straight season of not making the playoffs with a long, long way to go before they're relevant again.

Break the cycle. Change from the top down. Stop being delusional. And pray for another lucky ping pong ball.



LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Awful lot of sunshine and rainbows from these bloggers, TC and Theo. I see this Blackhawks team as a mess of mediocrity. A huge collection of 3rd and 4th line forwards, 3rd paring defensemen and hopelessly overpaid and untradeable veterans. I hope they DON'T win the play in series. Does anyone seriously think this bunch would win an actual playoff series if they somehow got past Edmonton? I'd much rather have a shot at Lafreniere with a worst case of the #10 pick in the draft.

Face it, people. Talk about Hossa all you want. He's gone. There needs to be an unsentimental, top down rebuild of this mess, starting with an outside hire for head of hockey ops. Bowman needs to be kicked upstairs (pretty clear they're not going to fire him) and the new guy needs free reign to evaluate EVERYTHING. Colliton needs to be gone.

They need to look at trading players who can bring back some youth, speed and cost control in return. Saad should be shopped. They should see what they can get for Murphy, Maata and DeHaan. They'll probably get underwhelming return offers on all of them which means they'll be stuck with what they've got - and that tells you all you need to know. This team is full of worker bee players at zero to negative trade value.

And they should seriously stop being delusional about Duncan Keith being a #1 D. I love the guy as much as you all do but he's nowhere near that level anymore and will only go further into decline. I'd ask him if he's be willing to waive his rights to go to a team that can win right away (Paging Coach Q in Florida.) He may refuse and once again, they'd be stuck. But the hope-and-prayer stuff has got to stop. The Hawks defense is historically bad and will stay that way without huge changes.

Furthermore, the Hawks farm system is bad. Who is an impact player waiting to happen? There are none. Ian Mitchell looks like a nice player but NOT a #1 D. Regula has some promise but again, not a #1. Teply is promising but is he an true impact guy? Highly doubt it. Okay, so go ahead and argue that Dach and Boqvist are up with the big team and that's why the fam looks weak. Well, what does that tell you? On a good team both of those guys would have been getting some much needed experience in the minors last year instead of being shoved into NHL action before they're ready.

And I'm going to be sacreligious and further say I haven't seen anything from either of those 2 that says "special talent." Maybe they'll bust out and become that but I don't see it. Boqvist has offensive potential, he could be Bryan Campbell (who mentored him.) But that's not a #1. Dach could be good but I don't see greatness.

You want to talk what they REALLY should at least consider? Talking to Kane (confidentially of course) to see if he would entertain the notion being dealt to Buffalo. He'd probably say no and even if he'd consider it, I doubt the Sabres would give up the ransom it would take to make this worthwhile. But my point is, they need to consider radical change.

They should do anything and everything to clear cap space and then make a serious run at Torey Krug. A difference making D who's still young and great at both ends of the ice. Pietrangelo will be unattainable but Krug could be in the realm of possibility if the Hawks got serious about changing the whole program. They need impact, difference making players, especially on D and it will take radically different thinking to make this possible.

Short of trying for Krug and of the other things I've mentioned, they should be seeing what they can get for Strome. They should re-sign Kubalik. They should try to move every single member of the D corps as it stands who is not named Boqvist or Mitchell. Obviously easier said than done and I in no way endorse give aways of guys like Murphy, who is valuable and under appreciated. But all considered, it's time to start identifying who to build around. Who will be on the next Cup contending team... EVERYONE else should be the subject of intelligent, diligent attempts to trade for better value, younger, faster players or meaningful draft picks.

The Mad House on Madison has become the Mediocrity on Madison and if they don't start making fast, decisive and unsentimental changes, the Hawks are headed for being the Red Wings version 2.0, who are now in their 4th straight season of not making the playoffs with a long, long way to go before they're relevant again.

Break the cycle. Change from the top down. Stop being delusional. And pray for another lucky ping pong ball.

- Korab


I don't disagree that the Hawks currently on paper look nothing more than a contender for a playoff spot, but the LAST thing I would do is to clear cap space for a 29 year old defenseman, (who's last contract at $5.25mil. is $250K more than Keith's AAV) who granted can run a power play, but averages 1 minute less per game than Zdeno Chara, and 4th most on the Bruins. His play does not ring #1 defeseman difference maker to me. He probably will resign with the Bruins anyway, they have the cap space.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jul 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
Awful lot of sunshine and rainbows from these bloggers, TC and Theo. I see this Blackhawks team as a mess of mediocrity. A huge collection of 3rd and 4th line forwards, 3rd paring defensemen and hopelessly overpaid and untradeable veterans. I hope they DON'T win the play in series. Does anyone seriously think this bunch would win an actual playoff series if they somehow got past Edmonton? I'd much rather have a shot at Lafreniere with a worst case of the #10 pick in the draft.

Face it, people. Talk about Hossa all you want. He's gone. There needs to be an unsentimental, top down rebuild of this mess, starting with an outside hire for head of hockey ops. Bowman needs to be kicked upstairs (pretty clear they're not going to fire him) and the new guy needs free reign to evaluate EVERYTHING. Colliton needs to be gone.

They need to look at trading players who can bring back some youth, speed and cost control in return. Saad should be shopped. They should see what they can get for Murphy, Maata and DeHaan. They'll probably get underwhelming return offers on all of them which means they'll be stuck with what they've got - and that tells you all you need to know. This team is full of worker bee players at zero to negative trade value.

And they should seriously stop being delusional about Duncan Keith being a #1 D. I love the guy as much as you all do but he's nowhere near that level anymore and will only go further into decline. I'd ask him if he's be willing to waive his rights to go to a team that can win right away (Paging Coach Q in Florida.) He may refuse and once again, they'd be stuck. But the hope-and-prayer stuff has got to stop. The Hawks defense is historically bad and will stay that way without huge changes.

Furthermore, the Hawks farm system is bad. Who is an impact player waiting to happen? There are none. Ian Mitchell looks like a nice player but NOT a #1 D. Regula has some promise but again, not a #1. Teply is promising but is he an true impact guy? Highly doubt it. Okay, so go ahead and argue that Dach and Boqvist are up with the big team and that's why the fam looks weak. Well, what does that tell you? On a good team both of those guys would have been getting some much needed experience in the minors last year instead of being shoved into NHL action before they're ready.

And I'm going to be sacreligious and further say I haven't seen anything from either of those 2 that says "special talent." Maybe they'll bust out and become that but I don't see it. Boqvist has offensive potential, he could be Bryan Campbell (who mentored him.) But that's not a #1. Dach could be good but I don't see greatness.

You want to talk what they REALLY should at least consider? Talking to Kane (confidentially of course) to see if he would entertain the notion being dealt to Buffalo. He'd probably say no and even if he'd consider it, I doubt the Sabres would give up the ransom it would take to make this worthwhile. But my point is, they need to consider radical change.

They should do anything and everything to clear cap space and then make a serious run at Torey Krug. A difference making D who's still young and great at both ends of the ice. Pietrangelo will be unattainable but Krug could be in the realm of possibility if the Hawks got serious about changing the whole program. They need impact, difference making players, especially on D and it will take radically different thinking to make this possible.

Short of trying for Krug and of the other things I've mentioned, they should be seeing what they can get for Strome. They should re-sign Kubalik. They should try to move every single member of the D corps as it stands who is not named Boqvist or Mitchell. Obviously easier said than done and I in no way endorse give aways of guys like Murphy, who is valuable and under appreciated. But all considered, it's time to start identifying who to build around. Who will be on the next Cup contending team... EVERYONE else should be the subject of intelligent, diligent attempts to trade for better value, younger, faster players or meaningful draft picks.

The Mad House on Madison has become the Mediocrity on Madison and if they don't start making fast, decisive and unsentimental changes, the Hawks are headed for being the Red Wings version 2.0, who are now in their 4th straight season of not making the playoffs with a long, long way to go before they're relevant again.

Break the cycle. Change from the top down. Stop being delusional. And pray for another lucky ping pong ball.

- Korab




Well said. . Finally I'm not alone in here saying the same things and expressing the same frustration with this team.

Having had the chance to watch Chicago's 3 cup runs on sports channel you can clearly see how the team got slower , but experience and a hall of fame coach was the recipe to overcome age and speed.


I'm hoping chicago gets bounced in order to have a shot at either the number 1 pick or 10. I don't believe this team has what it takes to go all the way and that includes a inexperienced head coach who's record is pathetic to say the least.
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