I am not a fan of giving Pietrangelo 7 years and a big contract at all. it's dumb
- RogerRoeper

I wonder how much he'll get. With the cap bound to "freeze" for a few years, there might be some pretty interesting deals to be made with this class of UFAs.

I think UFAs will probably go for shorter deals. They might have to.
- RogerRoeper

Welcome to Toronto, Taylor Hall

Give him a 1 or 2 year deal and Canadian tire

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/islanders


This says it all. lou is far worse than Dubas at contracts and Islanders are in just the worst cap pickle.

Why give all your 4th liners 3 million+ per? Do people realize that's worse than any contract Dubas has given out?

I am not a fan of giving Pietrangelo 7 years and a big contract at all. it's dumb
- RogerRoeper

I wouldn't either. That sounds like a recipe for regret.

Unfortunately, UFA RHD are in shorter supply than N95 masks.

It's just funny that you refuse to put anything into Tavares remarks yet Mikeyev's are gospel

The Bedsheets are so irrelevant. Do you know how many kids had bedsheets or other items of their local team taht are in the NHL now.
- RogerRoeper

please show me where Tavares said that Dubas was one of the main reasons for him to join the Leafs.

I wonder how much he'll get. With the cap bound to "freeze" for a few years, there might be some pretty interesting deals to be made with this class of UFAs.
- Scabeh

It's a bad time to be a UFA or an agent. Any GM handing out max contracts in this climate should have his head examined. Guys who signed big-ass deals right before the pandemic are laughing all the way to the bank.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/islanders


This says it all. lou is far worse than Dubas at contracts and Islanders are in just the worst cap pickle.

Why give all your 4th liners 3 million+ per? Do people realize that's worse than any contract Dubas has given out?
- RogerRoeper

so far, Lou has won more playoffs series last two years than Dubas..

please show me where Tavares said that Dubas was one of the main reasons for him to join the Leafs.
- MaximusAurelius

He went on and on about Dubas' presentation.

It's a bad time to be a UFA or an agent. Any GM handing out max contracts in this climate should have his head examined. Guys who signed big-ass deals right before the pandemic are laughing all the way to the bank.
- GalacticStone

Pretty sure Hall regrets not taking that big offer from the Devils now.

He'll get significantly less this... well I was gonna say summer but.... whenever he gets to sign a new contract.

so far, Lou has won more playoffs series last two years than Dubas..
- MaximusAurelius

So that makes him better at the cap? Dubas went as far as Lou did with taht same Leafs team in his first year.

Sorry, but the "Hasn't won a series" won't convince me that the Islanders are in cap hell and cannot get better. Leafs? Oh yeah. They have that elite core.

Lou brought accountability.

Everything went to poop the day he left.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I find it hard to reconcile this statement with Babcock's coaching and HR efforts.

Pretty sure Hall regrets not taking that big offer from the Devils now.

He'll get significantly less this... well I was gonna say summer but.... whenever he gets to sign a new contract.
- Scabeh

Yeah he had an 8 year deal wrapped up. I understand he wanted to win, but the Devils due have a core to compete asap

I remember when winning a cup was all that matters. Now people want to give awards to teams going 4-4 in the playoffs

For the cost of one Pietroangelo, you could get Shattenkirk, Gudas, and have money leftover.
- GalacticStone

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Shattenkirk indicated he doesn't want to play in Canada?

Tampa has done a pretty good job of locking up their core guys before they hit UFA. Stamkos was a scare, but that worked out well in the end. Given the off-ice advantages to living/playing in Florida, nobody expected Hedman to hit the open market.
- GalacticStone

Brayden Point will be interesting.

There were plenty of Leafs fans who wanted to see at least Marner get a bridge deal.

IIRC, Point gets $9 million in year 3, so that's the bare minimum on his next contract (he'll still be an RFA).

It may become a problem for Tampa, but it's still a very, very nice problem to have.

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Shattenkirk indicated he doesn't want to play in Canada?
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't recall. He might have said that. If so, then he's nuts and that explains the lack of Shatty chatter in the Canadian press.

Shatty Chatter - it sounds like slang for something.

Brayden Point will be interesting.

There were plenty of Leafs fans who wanted to see at least Marner get a bridge deal.

IIRC, Point gets $9 million in year 3, so that's the bare minimum on his next contract (he'll still be an RFA).

It may become a problem for Tampa, but it's still a very, very nice problem to have.
- Atomic Wedgie

Point's contract is going to be astronomical, but maybe the pandemic will put a damper on that.

But yeah, it's a nice problem to have.

People who female dog about "cap hell" are jealous. With a good GM, cap hell means you are spending to the ceiling and doing it well enough to have worries about it. If that makes sense.

Brayden Point will be interesting.

There were plenty of Leafs fans who wanted to see at least Marner get a bridge deal.

IIRC, Point gets $9 million in year 3, so that's the bare minimum on his next contract (he'll still be an RFA).

It may become a problem for Tampa, but it's still a very, very nice problem to have.
- Atomic Wedgie

Who ended up winning the "hottest" contest anyway?

Muzzin - Kerfoot - Johnsson aren't great contracts.
And the Matthews contract is the most player-friendly contract ever signed in NHL in salary cap era.
That's a friggin brutal contract considering the fact that Matthews gets a top-dollar (AAV) contract while not giving up any of his UFA years.
By far the Matthews contract is worst of Dubas' negotiating - and it confirms a trend that he is not great (yet?) at getting team-friendly deals for younger players.
- MaximusAurelius

Matthews is going to walk as soon as he can, no question.

A team like Az or Mtl were going to offer him something like a max deal. Matthews held all the cards.

Who ended up winning the "hottest" contest anyway?
- Scabeh

The Gull

Who ended up winning the "hottest" contest anyway?
- Scabeh

Matthews is going to walk as soon as he can, no question.

A team like Az or Mtl were going to offer him something like a max deal. Matthews held all the cards.
- Aetherial

Because he hates Toronto!!! He desperately wants to sign with his hometown team who hasn't made the playoffs in 8 years, has the lowest operational budget in the NHl and can never win and may moev to Houston.


Seriously buddy. Leafs will have a year to offer Matthews a massive deal. He won't be able to turn it down. How many do?

Tavres and Matthews will be in polar opposite siruation when he's UFA.

So Leafs offer Matthews a massive record breaking 8 year deal in 4 years a full 12 months before UFA but he turns it down...

Remember, if the Leafs were in the same sitaution as the Coyotess Tavraes would not have even granted Toronto an interview...

Matthews knows how good he has it. The $$$ and chance to win is in Toronto.

Because he hates Toronto!!! He desperately wants to sign with his hometown team who hasn't made the playoffs in 8 years, has the lowest operational budget in the NHl and can never win and may moev to Houston.


Seriously buddy. Leafs will have a year to offer Matthews a massive deal. He won't be able to turn it down. How many do?

Tavres and Matthews will be in polar opposite siruation when he's UFA.
- RogerRoeper

So Leafs offer Matthews a massive record breaking 8 year deal in 4 years a full 12 months before UFA but he turns it down...

Remember, if the Leafs were in the same sitaution as the Coyotess Tavraes would not have even granted Toronto an interview...

Matthews knows how good he has it. The $$$ and chance to win is in Toronto.
- RogerRoeper

Tavaraids=Leafs PJ
Matthews=MAGA PJ