Yes but seriously keep Nylander trade Marner.

Willy is a way better value contract.
- BINGO!

Trading Marner frees up more cap space and will likely net a better return.

1. Sign Pieterangelo.

2. Trade Johnsson and Kerfoot

3. ??????????

4. Enjoy the parade.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fixed

Yes but seriously keep Nylander trade Marner.

Willy is a way better value contract.
- BINGO!

I actually agree.

The only way I see Nylander getting traded is of Petro comes in on a long term deal. With a potential flat cap for a while...7x7-7.5?

Then Nylander would have to go for a huge package.

Josh Anderson, 1st round pick, Gabriel Carlson

Give Anderson a 3x4

I’d also try and find a better 3C

Hyman-Matthews-Anderson
Mikheyev-JT-Marner
Johnnson-?-Kap
Barbaronov-?-?

Rielly-Petro
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Cheap one year FA/Lehtonen

I actually agree.

The only way I see Nylander getting traded is of Petro comes in on a long term deal. With a potential flat cap for a while...7x7-7.5?

Then Nylander would have to go for a huge package.

Josh Anderson, 1st round pick, Gabriel Carlson

Give Anderson a 3x4

I’d also try and find a better 3C

Hyman-Matthews-Anderson
Mikheyev-JT-Marner
Johnnson-?-Kap
Barbaronov-?-?

Rielly-Petro
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Cheap one year FA/Lehtonen
- Santo_44

Engvall
Robertson
Spezza/Gauthier

Engvall
Robertson
Spezza/Gauthier
- mr.sir

None of those guys are locks

None of those guys are locks
- Santo_44

Engvall is a lock

Korshkov for 4th line RW

Engvall is a lock

Korshkov for 4th line RW
- mr.sir

No he isn't

Guys who get paid 1 million are no where near locks

The hope is that he is on the team but that is not for certain

Trade Nylander, Johnsson for LA 2nd overall 2020, Jeff Carter (salary dump / 3rd line C) and Austin Wagner.

Trade Nylander, for LA 2nd overall 2020
- MaximusAurelius

Jones
Pietrangelo
Hamilton
Parayko
Pesce
Savard
Severson
Ristolainen
Ekblad
Dumba
Ellis
P Myers
C Timmins
Hamonic
Makar
DeAngelo
Trouba
Sanheim
Sergachev
McAvoy

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sweet deal for the leafs; approx 6mln cap relief, ánd they get the better player in the deal.

If the cap is staying flat they need to keep any money aside for Rielly and a goalie AND they need to hope all the young defensemen pan out or the forwards grow up and find their own end of the ice once in a while.
- Aetherial

Those are future problems that will no doubt be navigated. Who knows what may happen a couple of seasons from now? We can worry about re-upping Rielly in a couple of years (or maybe we don't?). I'm not too concerned about losing Andy.

I maintain that the Leafs could lock up Petro for 8M without having to dump Willie or any of the core 4.

There's lots of pieces that aren't going to be re-signed. There are lots of lesser pieces (Johnsson and Kerfoot) that can be off-loaded. There are lots of up-and-coming players that can restock the bottom - and possibly top - 6 (e.g. Robertson).

Dubas, make it happen, son!

Those are future problems that will no doubt be navigated. Who knows what may happen a couple of seasons from now? We can worry about re-upping Rielly in a couple of years (or maybe we don't?). I'm not too concerned about losing Andy.

I maintain that the Leafs could lock up Petro for 8M without having to dump Willie or any of the core 4.

There's lots of pieces that aren't going to be re-signed. There are lots of lesser pieces (Johnsson and Kerfoot) that can be off-loaded. There are lots of up-and-coming players that can restock the bottom - and possibly top - 6 (e.g. Robertson).

Dubas, make it happen, son!
- mjones242

Agreed on the part that they won't worry about Rielly yet. He's 2+ yrs away. You plan for him but you don't worry yet. And Anderson hasn't shown he really deserves much of a raise next summer. His 5 million can be used to re-sign him or someone else.

I don't see how AP happens though. AJ and AK free's up 6.9 but with other spots to fill AP would have to come really cheap (like less than 6.5) to make that work.


If AP wanted to come to TO and the Leafs wanted it to happen I think it'd have to be Kerfoot and Willie traded for some good young affordable forwards. That'd fill the roster and free up enough space to fill those spots and sign AP at 8+.

I think more likely ....Leafs deal a Kerfoot or Johnsson or Kapanen for picks/youth in the "offseason" and fill that spot with Robertson or Engvall. Then roll into the season and give the young D a chance to surprise ....then add a Dman at the trade deadline.

That response is always gold
- PatC80

Jake Muzzin

Agreed on the part that they won't worry about Rielly yet. He's 2+ yrs away. You plan for him but you don't worry yet. And Anderson hasn't shown he really deserves much of a raise next summer. His 5 million can be used to re-sign him or someone else.

I don't see how AP happens though. AJ and AK free's up 6.9 but with other spots to fill AP would have to come really cheap (like less than 6.5) to make that work.


If AP wanted to come to TO and the Leafs wanted it to happen I think it'd have to be Kerfoot and Willie traded for some good young affordable forwards. That'd fill the roster and free up enough space to fill those spots and sign AP at 8+.

I think more likely ....Leafs deal a Kerfoot or Johnsson or Kapanen for picks/youth in the "offseason" and fill that spot with Robertson or Engvall. Then roll into the season and give the young D a chance to surprise ....then add a Dman at the trade deadline.
- The Law

The only way I see AP coming to Toronto is on a two year deal due to COVID-19, and even then I'm wishing more than actually suggesting it will happen.

Imma do some rankings.


Leafs rankings.

Matthews
Marner
Tavares
Rielly

Nylander
Andersen

Sandin
Hyman
Muzzin
Johnsson
Dermott
Kapanen
Campbell
Kerfoot

Kerfoot for Bozak (2mil retained)

Kerfoot for Bozak (2mil retained)
- Byfuglien Ate Me

why stop there?
bring back "Mr. Game 7 Gardiner", JVR, Joe Colborne, Holzer and Ben Scrivens as well while you're at it.

If Marner gets traded he has no one but himself to blame for becoming a cap casualty.

If he had been willing to take a little less than the absolute maximum he could extort, or heaven forbid a modest hometown discount (something competing teams in the Atlantic have been able to convince their star players to do), we’re not even having this discussion.

This is the bed he made.

If Marner gets traded he has no one but himself to blame for becoming a cap casualty.

If he had been willing to take a little less than the absolute maximum he could extort, or heaven forbid a modest hometown discount (something competing teams in the Atlantic have been able to convince their star players to do), we’re not even having this discussion.

This is the bed he made.
- poopstash

stop babbling nonsense

stop babbling nonsense
- MaximusAurelius

Trade Nylander, Johnsson for LA 2nd overall 2020, Jeff Carter (salary dump / 3rd line C) and Austin Wagner.
- MaximusAurelius

Irony

stop babbling nonsense
- MaximusAurelius

It’s not nonsense

Marner had the chance to become the fan favourite by taking a hometown discount
Instead he became public enemy #1

Marner for Jones

If Marner gets traded he has no one but himself to blame for becoming a cap casualty.

If he had been willing to take a little less than the absolute maximum he could extort, or heaven forbid a modest hometown discount (something competing teams in the Atlantic have been able to convince their star players to do), we’re not even having this discussion.

This is the bed he made.
- poopstash

It’s not nonsense

Marner had the chance to become the fan favourite by taking a hometown discount
Instead he became public enemy #1

Marner for Jones
- mr.sir

Marner took more of a discount with his 6y and lower AAV compared to Matthews - and somehow he's the one that is 'public enemy #1'?

So far, Marner has proven to be more effective and more valuable than Matthews - who is lagging behind in his development, and should really focus on becomign valuable in the d-zone as well.

Marner is the most important asset on this team - Tavares #2, Rielly #3, Matthews #4, Anderssen #5, and Hyman #6.

why stop there?
bring back "Mr. Game 7 Gardiner", JVR, Joe Colborne, Holzer and Ben Scrivens as well while you're at it.
- MaximusAurelius

That’s a sad bunch right there.