As always the speculation will continue until the seasons either resume or get canceled. Some days it feels like momentum is heading towards the restart, and other days it sounds like the plans are crashing down. Putting the hub cities in Canada was smart and may ultimately make the difference, but it’s tough to get too excited about things when in the back of my mind I know things could get called off at any second.
- Victoro311

And if things get called off it will just be another point to illustrate how we’ve regressed as a society.

There's gonna be 3 games per day in each hub...aka 15 hours of hockey a day hahaha. That's crazy. I'm starting to get a lil excited again now but August 1st in this current world is a long ways away yet...
- MattStrat

Hockey will be on y TV all day. I wish they had the time slots better, for example 12PM, 4PM, 8PM in one hub. Then 1:30PM, 5:30PM and 9:30PM. That way games aren't at intermission at the same time.

I'm also curious about OT, as they can run long would game times get pushed back, or are they using 2 different rinks and the middle timeslot is at the practice facility. I haven't read what the plan will be if that occurs.

Hockey will be on y TV all day. I wish they had the time slots better, for example 12PM, 4PM, 8PM in one hub. Then 1:30PM, 5:30PM and 9:30PM. That way games aren't at intermission at the same time.

I'm also curious about OT, as they can run long would game times get pushed back, or are they using 2 different rinks and the middle timeslot is at the practice facility. I haven't read what the plan will be if that occurs.
- abcpens10

About your first part you are forgetting Edmonton and Toronto have a 3 hour time difference. So they are all staggered for you.

Second part they are expected to just push the games back.

Im fuuuckin stoked out here in the west! Games from noon till like 1am!!! This cant get much better!

About your first part you are forgetting Edmonton and Toronto have a 3 hour time difference. So they are all staggered for you.

Second part they are expected to just push the games back.

Im fuuuckin stoked out here in the west! Games from noon till like 1am!!! This cant get much better!
- pens4life-66

If that were the case it would mean 4:30pm to 5:30 am for me on the furthest east coast

I think more importantly to the NHL that would mean for the EST zone, which is probably their biggest audience, games starting at 3pm and end at 4am. I cant see that happening. I would imagine in BC you'll be watching games before noon.

If that were the case it would mean 4:30pm to 5:30 am for me on the furthest east coast

I think more importantly to the NHL that would mean for the EST zone, which is probably their biggest audience, games starting at 3pm and end at 4am. I cant see that happening. I would imagine in BC you'll be watching games before noon.
- MattStrat

Sounds like thats whats happening. Currently west coast games start at 10pm-1am ish for east coast viewers now so I can easily see in this situation it being a couple hours later.

Sounds like thats whats happening. Currently west coast games start at 10pm-1am ish for east coast viewers now so I can easily see in this situation it being a couple hours later.
- pens4life-66

The latest a NHL game starts for my time zone is 12:00am. For all the other Atlantic provinces (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and PEI) its 11:30am.

I just read this:


"The #NHL will re-start the season playing a total of six games a day from 12 PM to 10 PM EST. Three games will be played in Toronto and three others will be hosted in Edmonton, which is two hours behind (Mountain Time). With each game lasting approximately two-and-a-half hours, that’s 15 hours of hockey per day at least.
When you factor in that playoff overtime rules could extend games even longer… whelp… you may forget to shower most days. #Playoffs2020"

This means you'll have games on at 9:00am. For me they'll start 1:30pm.

Yeah ok. They show both confirmed and probable here. They are not lumped together as he said.

Confirmed are most definitely on the rise and probable, going by its definition, means those are most likely covid as well. The probable are way lower than the confirmed...but are most likely Covid anyways.
- MattStrat

Youre right SOME are not lumped together, i should have better specified that when i said that some states do not disclose the difference ,i meant those specific states absolutely lump them together. and some of those states that dont disclose the difference are the highest "total case" states and the states that are on the "rise" again.

and also, i don't know if you looked up the the ""probable cases", but they can be as simple as, if you have a cough, you could be labled as a "probable case". there is something wrong with the system of calculating total cases, if that includes probable cases.

https://scdhec.gov/infect...-confirmed-probable-cases

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nnds...-19/case-definition/2020/

"CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases."

Some one with a medical backround please explain to me how the final sentence of the backround makes sense.

Lol and what credible doctors are saying things contrary to me?

And yes I’m a centrist. The fact you think I’m a far right extremist shows how far left you are. It’s pretty sad.
- Feds91Stammer

I'll take your word for it, but this surprised me too because you seem to always end up picking the more Rpublican stance of a debate.

A couple of questions:

Toronto and Edmonton would have to play at opposite rinks...right?

Edmonton spiked in covid cases, will that shut it down?

If that Ek headline is right I feel bad for the Devils. I don’t get hiring a coach who’s failed multiple times in a row, and I really don’t get why you’d make an internal hire after firing a GM.

About your first part you are forgetting Edmonton and Toronto have a 3 hour time difference. So they are all staggered for you.

Second part they are expected to just push the games back.

Im fuuuckin stoked out here in the west! Games from noon till like 1am!!! This cant get much better!
- pens4life-66

Isn't Edmonton Mountain time. Or do they not observe daylight saving time.

If that Ek headline is right I feel bad for the Devils. I don’t get hiring a coach who’s failed multiple times in a row, and I really don’t get why you’d make an internal hire after firing a GM.
- Victoro311

How much did Covid inhibit their ability to do a thorough search? Probably a lot...IMO.

How much did Covid inhibit their ability to do a thorough search? Probably a lot...IMO.
- madmike71

I guess. But I mean Shero was gone long before Covid and you'd assume the Devils have been doing their due diligence for a while. No GM just gets fired unless a scandal is involved. There's a lead up, and you start vetting people during that lead up.

They handled this poop a lot better than we did, but then again many countries have. What has Alex Jones had to say?
- Rinosaur

Huh?

China stopped all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China while allowing international flights out of Wuhan and not warning other countries. They repeatedly lied to the WHO and downplayed the severity of the virus. They can also weld doors shut to lock people in their tiny apartments. If a fire had broken out, they'd all be dead. They dont have to wait for a Court or have to think about human rights.

Not to mention they have used this time to take parts of the India/China border, take Hong Kong, and commit cyberattacks against Australia because the Aussies asked for an investigation into the orgin of the virus.

China has a lot to answer for. You could say that governments should've realized what was going on when China was stopping flights, and I'd agree with that.

Now Europe has responded to the virus... probably because they dont look at everything as a damn stupid contest between the left and the right. Here, one side does something stupid and the other side wants to show you that they can be dumber. It's pathetic.

Youre right SOME are not lumped together, i should have better specified that when i said that some states do not disclose the difference ,i meant those specific states absolutely lump them together. and some of those states that dont disclose the difference are the highest "total case" states and the states that are on the "rise" again.

and also, i don't know if you looked up the the ""probable cases", but they can be as simple as, if you have a cough, you could be labled as a "probable case". there is something wrong with the system of calculating total cases, if that includes probable cases.

https://scdhec.gov/infect...-confirmed-probable-cases

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nnds...-19/case-definition/2020/

"CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases."

Some one with a medical backround please explain to me how the final sentence of the backround makes sense.
- joecool2931

Here in Canada probable means that they've done contact tracing out from a confirmed infection to the people that person has come in contact with. If any of those people have symptoms they are considered probable until confirmed.

Its the same thing in USA. You just backed this up with those links. Look at the criteria then the "Epidemiologic Linkage" part. So no, just a cough or sneeze (clinical criteria) doesn't constitute probable, the person would of also had to of been in contact with an infected person (epidemiologic linkage) or have "laboratory criteria" along with the "clincal" before its called probable.

From the link:

Probable
-Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19.

-Meets presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence.

-Meets vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19. (this one has to do with death)

Here in Canada probable means that they've done contact tracing out from a confirmed infection to the people that person has come in contact with. If any of those people have symptoms they are considered probable until confirmed.

Its the same thing in USA. You just backed this up with those links. Look at the criteria then the "Epidemiologic Linkage" part. So no, just a cough or sneeze (clinical criteria) doesn't constitute probable, the person would of also had to of been in contact with an infected person (epidemiologic linkage) or have "laboratory criteria" along with the "clincal" before its called probable.

From the link:

Probable
-Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19.

-Meets presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence.

-Meets vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19. (this one has to do with death)
- MattStrat

Conviently I missed that part, that is logical for a probable case, but it shouldn't be a part of total cases, they should aslways be shown seperatly.

But at the same time, can we trust the epidemiologic evidence, when investigating, nurses and doctors are not allowed to ask the patients if they have been to a march, protest or riot?

The data is so only ever represented in certain ways to highlight ones political agenda. We shouldnt have to have conversations about what a "case" is.