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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:28 PM ET
Just like Paul Walker
- eichiefs9


Ouch
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:28 PM ET
Looks like Wednesday maybe Chiefs day to spew all over himself.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 12 @ 12:25 AM ET
Looks like Wednesday maybe Chiefs day to spew all over himself.
- nyisles7

Hows that different from any other day?
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 12 @ 9:42 AM ET
Looks like Wednesday maybe Chiefs day to spew all over himself.
- nyisles7


Hows that different from any other day?
- Upstate_isles


The 2 of you watch some strange webcasts.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
Hows that different from any other day?
- Upstate_isles



Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 12 @ 5:25 PM ET
#mnwild GM Bill Guerin says the NHL has ruled that Kirill Kaprizov, if signed for 2019-20, can come for Phase 3 and 4 and can skate in Phase 3 and 4 practices. He would go with the team to Edmonton and be part of the 31 players

Staple assumes the same is true for the isles

Edit
Agent for Ilya Sorokin (and MTL pick Alex Romanov) confirms that Sorokin can join #Isles for Phases 3 and 4. Window to sign for 19-20 opens tomorrow at noon.
NYIFan4Life
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.30.2018

Jul 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
#mnwild GM Bill Guerin says the NHL has ruled that Kirill Kaprizov, if signed for 2019-20, can come for Phase 3 and 4 and can skate in Phase 3 and 4 practices. He would go with the team to Edmonton and be part of the 31 players

Staple assumes the same is true for the isles

Edit
Agent for Ilya Sorokin (and MTL pick Alex Romanov) confirms that Sorokin can join #Isles for Phases 3 and 4. Window to sign for 19-20 opens tomorrow at noon.

- Upstate_isles


It'll be interesting to see what # they assign Sorokin. Lou hates high numbers. But then if he's not actually playing, they might hold off till next season.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 12 @ 6:02 PM ET
#mnwild GM Bill Guerin says the NHL has ruled that Kirill Kaprizov, if signed for 2019-20, can come for Phase 3 and 4 and can skate in Phase 3 and 4 practices. He would go with the team to Edmonton and be part of the 31 players

Staple assumes the same is true for the isles

Edit
Agent for Ilya Sorokin (and MTL pick Alex Romanov) confirms that Sorokin can join #Isles for Phases 3 and 4. Window to sign for 19-20 opens tomorrow at noon.

- Upstate_isles

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see what # they assign Sorokin. Lou hates high numbers. But then if he's not actually playing, they might hold off till next season.
- NYIFan4Life


Let’s get him signed before we pick what number he’ll wear.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 12 @ 6:16 PM ET
#mnwild GM Bill Guerin says the NHL has ruled that Kirill Kaprizov, if signed for 2019-20, can come for Phase 3 and 4 and can skate in Phase 3 and 4 practices. He would go with the team to Edmonton and be part of the 31 players

Staple assumes the same is true for the isles

Edit
Agent for Ilya Sorokin (and MTL pick Alex Romanov) confirms that Sorokin can join #Isles for Phases 3 and 4. Window to sign for 19-20 opens tomorrow at noon.

- Upstate_isles


So, now they can play this year? What a back and forth drama this was. Can he even get a flight to Canada?


nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 12 @ 6:41 PM ET
So, now they can play this year? What a back and forth drama this was. Can he even get a flight to Canada?
- Puckin_Island



Let’s hope so because he can’t get a flight here
Puckin_Island
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Jul 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Let’s hope so because he can’t get a flight here
- nyisles7


There's always charter.....I guess. I was just trying to figure what else could go wrong.

Oh, I know. The Isles sign him, and he show up and is put in quarantine for 11 months.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Jul 12 @ 7:47 PM ET
Now I'm reading that these late signings may not be allowed to play in the playoffs?

What the hell would be the point of bringing them to a HUB city just to participate in phase 4 practice, but not the playoff games???

I'm confused.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
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Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 12 @ 11:56 PM ET
Now I'm reading that these late signings may not be allowed to play in the playoffs?

What the hell would be the point of bringing them to a HUB city just to participate in phase 4 practice, but not the playoff games???

I'm confused.

- Puckin_Island

He can't play in games but can be on the practice squad and in training camp. This allows him to get on the ice and not have 9 months off
Puckin_Island
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Jul 13 @ 8:28 AM ET
He can't play in games but can be on the practice squad and in training camp. This allows him to get on the ice and not have 9 months off
- Upstate_isles


He has to remain in a bubble to practice. It hardly seems worth it. He would be better off signing an exit clause contract in Europe or the KHL. Then the Islanders could sign him late for the playoffs, or in the summer for the 21-22 season.


If the Isles do sign him, they will need to protect him and leave Var exposed in the expansion draft. What a mess.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
He can't play in games but can be on the practice squad and in training camp. This allows him to get on the ice and not have 9 months off
- Upstate_isles

Might not be the worst thing for him to have plenty of time to acclimate to the NHL-size rink. Shouldn't be too bad, CSKA played on a Finnish size sheet which is somewhere between the NHL and international dimensions...but it still wouldn't hurt.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:34 AM ET
He has to remain in a bubble to practice. It hardly seems worth it. He would be better off signing an exit clause contract in Europe or the KHL. Then the Islanders could sign him late for the playoffs, or in the summer for the 21-22 season.


If the Isles do sign him, they will need to protect him and leave Var exposed in the expansion draft. What a mess.

- Puckin_Island

Pretty sure that's exactly what they intended to do. Either Varlamov gets drafted and we free up $5M in cap space or we have, potentially, two good goaltending options.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:50 AM ET
Might not be the worst thing for him to have plenty of time to acclimate to the NHL-size rink. Shouldn't be too bad, CSKA played on a Finnish size sheet which is somewhere between the NHL and international dimensions...but it still wouldn't hurt.
- eichiefs9

Agreed, while also adjusting to life in NA. Getting to know the team, coaches, surroundings, etc. Of course it’s not ideal burning a year but I don’t think it’s as big of a negative as some are making it out to be. May make for an easier transition for him which in turn could be for the best. Either way this is the hand we were dealt just have to make the best of it and go forward...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
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Jul 13 @ 9:51 AM ET
Pretty sure that's exactly what they intended to do. Either Varlamov gets drafted and we free up $5M in cap space or we have, potentially, two good goaltending options.
- eichiefs9

Love to see Varly and his salary gone but we would have to resign Greiss. We don’t have any other options in the system for a back up.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:53 AM ET
Love to see Varly and his salary gone but we would have to resign Greiss. We don’t have any other options in the system for a back up.
- Cptmjl

Well they'd have that entire summer (or whatever the hell the offseason will be going forward) to take care of that. If Sorokin turns out to be total dogpoop, they can just expose him too. They'll have plenty of acceptable options.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Well they'd have that entire summer (or whatever the hell the offseason will be going forward) to take care of that. If Sorokin turns out to be total dogpoop, they can just expose him too. They'll have plenty of acceptable options.
- eichiefs9

We cannot have that happen. Not an option😂😂😂😂🤣
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
We cannot have that happen. Not an option😂😂😂😂🤣
- Cptmjl

I highly doubt it'll be the case, but nothing is guaranteed
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
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Jul 13 @ 10:09 AM ET
I highly doubt it'll be the case, but nothing is guaranteed
- eichiefs9

We will be in a pretty crappy position if he’s not everything we hope him to be.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:13 AM ET
We will be in a pretty crappy position if he’s not everything we hope him to be.
- Cptmjl

Well I mean Varly is a pretty capable goaltender. Not perfect, but a problem either. It wouldn't be like we were back to the pre-Nabokov days but it would be disappointing that Sorokin wasn't what we all hoped he was.

That said, I really don't think that'll be the case. He's a hell of a player and his arrival could end up being a big turning point for this team.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 13 @ 10:35 AM ET
Pretty sure that's exactly what they intended to do. Either Varlamov gets drafted and we free up $5M in cap space or we have, potentially, two good goaltending options.
- eichiefs9


The Islanders would be crazy to open next season with just an unproven (in the NHL) goalie. That freed up $5 mil will be used replacing Var.
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