Ugggh. Tanner's a Lib...... moving goalposts is what Libs do besT!
- rrentz

And he and the Libs are living rent free in your head. Two blogs later and you are still triggered.

Ugggh. Tanner's a Lib...... moving goalposts is what Libs do besT!
- rrentz

Get ready it'll take years for Republicans to get back any power after November.

I never said he was about to be fired. If they lose to Columbus, his leash is gone. If they're mediocre next year and don't make it to the second round of the playoffs again, he's probably gone. That's a quick exit.
- Hunkulese

You clearly think he will be fired this year and are backpeddling. "If, if. if..."

Leafs are a major cup contender right now. Oh wait no playoff round wins in 16 years it means that's impossible!!!!

Tell me more about the Leafs "Disaster" that was 10 weeks in 2020...

I think the Islanders for instance fit that bill more. Florida too

You've offered 0 evidence of that though, and when given evidence of the opposite you just move the goalposts so that he still fits your view of what a 60 year old coach is.
- rmdevil313

Zero evidence? The Rangers were among the worst teams in the exact thing that Ruff was responsible for. Additionally, I regardless of how he performed when there were a ton of extra powerplays, the facts are he had his best success in a dump-and-chase era with low scoring, and he 100% isn't going to come in and dress a fourth line of talent with no grinders, or try to ice six puck moving defenseman.

No the game hasn't changed a ton in the last 5 years. Nor is there a trend towards "analytic" coaches. Whatever that means.
- MJL

The game has definitely changed, there are less enforcers, less grinders in general, less teams are playing a dump-and-chase model, there's less emphasis on grinding, more emphasis on puck moving D. The NHL has essentially had a revolution because of all the things you've spend the last five year pretending weren't real.

You clearly think he will be fired this year and are backpeddling. "If, if. if..."

Leafs are a major cup contender right now. Oh wait no playoff round wins in 16 years it means that's impossible!!!!

Tell me more about the Leafs "Disaster" that was 10 weeks in 2020...

I think the Islanders for instance fit that bill more. Florida too
- RogerRoeper

If the Leafs have the roster to be major contenders right now and they miss the playoffs this year and don't do anything next year, who do you blame if you can't blame the coach?

Ruff was great for Benn and Seguin in Dallas. They both became stars under his watch. Maybe that's why he was brought on. They've got a lot of young high end talent, that can become stars. Could be a good hire for Hischier and Hughes

Get ready it'll take years for Republicans to get back any power after November.
- RogerRoeper

2020

House.... Republicans. ✔️
Senate..... Rebublicans ✔️
President.....Trump ✔️
Supreme Court....More conservatives..✔️

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

With even a mediocre season following this one, Ruff will move into fifth place all time in coaching wins. That is ALL time. Of course longevity has a lot to do with it, but you have to believe the experience is valuable. Winning games is what every team is striving for. He's proven he can do that. To slam the guy because he doesn't fit the criteria of what some young know it all deems innovative is ignorant. You don't forget how to motivate. Some consistency and experience behind the bench will serve the Devils well.

The game has definitely changed, there are less enforcers, less grinders in general, less teams are playing a dump-and-chase model, there's less emphasis on grinding, more emphasis on puck moving D. The NHL has essentially had a revolution because of all the things you've spend the last five year pretending weren't real.
- James_Tanner

I thought you were done with me?


Team's focusing on puck pressure and puck possession is not something new Tanner. It's been going on for well over a decade. I know there weren't any good stats websites or HERO charts for you to actually know something back then but it's not new. Maybe if you actually watched hockey, you'd realize that.

Get ready it'll take years for Republicans to get back any power after November.
- RogerRoeper

I like to stay out of American politics. Being Canadian it's really none of my business. Having said that, beware. Joe Biden just might be Donald Trumps tonic. A lifeline of sorts. If the people on here think Lindy Ruff is old, take a look at Biden. Good grief. He can barely make it up to the podium, when he does come out of his basement. Is he even coherent any longer? And this is the best the Dems have to offer. Trump scares the living (insert word of your choice), but Biden??? I mean come on man! At this point I'll be happy if the borders stay locked down for the next four years.

I like to stay out of American politics. Being Canadian it's really none of my business. Having said that, beware. Joe Biden just might be Donald Trumps tonic. A lifeline of sorts. If the people on here think Lindy Ruff is old, take a look at Biden. Good grief. He can barely make it up to the podium, when he does come out of his basement. Is he even coherent any longer? And this is the best the Dems have to offer. Trump scares the living (insert word of your choice), but Biden??? I mean come on man! At this point I'll be happy if the borders stay locked down for the next four years.
- Hardbalz

Biden in a medically-induced coma is better than Trump. Trump is one rage-stroke away from being a drooling simp. He's only 3 or 4 years younger than Biden. Biden at 50% mental capacity still has several IQ points on Trump on his best day.

Neither one of them is a good option, frankly. I troll the Trumpsters in here, but Biden is a corporate-shill moderate and nothing close to being a true lefty. On any objective political scale, he would be slightly right of center.

I want the next president to be a 35-yo, 50-foot tall, militant latina lesbian. Anything other than that is picking the lesser of two evils.

I'll vote against Trump by voting for Biden, and I will throw up in my mouth while doing so, but it's better than four more years of a pedo-loving, Nazi-loving, science-denying, man-baby with neanderthal cultist followers.

Biden in a medically-induced coma is better than Trump. Trump is one rage-stroke away from being a drooling simp. He's only 3 or 4 years younger than Biden. Biden at 50% mental capacity still has several IQ points on Trump on his best day.

Neither one of them is a good option, frankly. I troll the Trumpsters in here, but Biden is a corporate-shill moderate and nothing close to being a true lefty. On any objective political scale, he would be slightly right of center.

I want the next president to be a 35-yo, 50-foot tall, militant latina lesbian. Anything other than that is picking the lesser of two evils.

I'll vote against Trump by voting for Biden, and I will throw up in my mouth while doing so, but it's better than four more years of a pedo-loving, Nazi-loving, science-denying, man-baby with neanderthal cultist followers.
- GalacticStone

I know....Record stock market, housing prices, unemployment rates, increased salaries, secured borders, stronger military, prison reform are so horrible....😪😪😪😪

Zero evidence? The Rangers were among the worst teams in the exact thing that Ruff was responsible for. Additionally, I regardless of how he performed when there were a ton of extra powerplays, the facts are he had his best success in a dump-and-chase era with low scoring, and he 100% isn't going to come in and dress a fourth line of talent with no grinders, or try to ice six puck moving defenseman.
- James_Tanner

You claimed that Ruff played a safe playstyle with no evidence then Bill showed otherwise, then you say he probably plays dump and chase but again with no evidence You just assume because of his age and that he coached before the lockout that he won't change his style, which you couldn't even properly identify. The Rangers defensive stats don't prove anything about how his teams play, it just proves that he's bad which is not what I am arguing.

You claimed that Ruff played a safe playstyle with no evidence then Bill showed otherwise, then you say he probably plays dump and chase but again with no evidence You just assume because of his age and that he coached before the lockout that he won't change his style, which you couldn't even properly identify. The Rangers defensive stats don't prove anything about how his teams play, it just proves that he's bad which is not what I am arguing.
- rmdevil313

The Rangers defensive woes are attributed to a young team, nothing else. Under Ruff, ADA, Fox, and Lindgren have all excelled. Tanner doesn't know anything about hockey. He's made that very obvious

I know....Record stock market, housing prices, unemployment rates, increased salaries, secured borders, stronger military, prison reform are so horrible....😪😪😪😪
- rrentz

Cool story bro. Find a publisher for it yet?

With even a mediocre season following this one, Ruff will move into fifth place all time in coaching wins. That is ALL time. Of course longevity has a lot to do with it, but you have to believe the experience is valuable. Winning games is what every team is striving for. He's proven he can do that. To slam the guy because he doesn't fit the criteria of what some young know it all deems innovative is ignorant. You don't forget how to motivate. Some consistency and experience behind the bench will serve the Devils well.
- Hardbalz

Pretty much everyone here who has argued Ruff's a good coach is missing the point: there is a group of people who are constantly recycled in the NHL. Lindy Ruff literally failed several times so badly that he was fired. The fact that the NHL is so comfortable hiring and rehiring the same 62 year old white guys over and over again is the problem.

You can say whatever you want to, but like all 60 year olds, Ruff learned what he knows 30 years ago. Are you telling me that there are no younger people who have come along since 1997 - when a 40 year old Ruff got his first NHL job - who could do coach in the NHL?

People are like yeah how many teams have been successful doing that? I would say the same amount of teams who've won with Lindy Ruff coaching.

I like to stay out of American politics. Being Canadian it's really none of my business. Having said that, beware. Joe Biden just might be Donald Trumps tonic. A lifeline of sorts. If the people on here think Lindy Ruff is old, take a look at Biden. Good grief. He can barely make it up to the podium, when he does come out of his basement. Is he even coherent any longer? And this is the best the Dems have to offer. Trump scares the living (insert word of your choice), but Biden??? I mean come on man! At this point I'll be happy if the borders stay locked down for the next four years.
- Hardbalz

Biden is sharper on his worst day than Trump on his best. It's a weird tactic for people to complain about Biden being old and decript when old fat boy needs two hands to lift his water glass, is obviously in the midst of a brutal cognitive decline into dementia and who can't form two coherent sentences in a row.

I know....Record stock market, housing prices, unemployment rates, increased salaries, secured borders, stronger military, prison reform are so horrible....😪😪😪😪
- rrentz

Committed treason to win presidency, was impeached, is the single most corrupt politician in USA history, over 40 sexual assault complaints, including rape and including stuff with kids. Blatantly racist. Single worst Covid response in the world. Suffering from dementia. Worst economic collapse since depression, sky high unemployment, hated throughout the world, destroyed America's reputation, despised by literally all educated people.

The worst part is how dumb you actually have to be to think he did anything good.

Cool story bro. Find a publisher for it yet?
- GalacticStone

Facts be tough for some I guess. Every example I gave can be supported by data, but we all know that doesn't matter to you and those like you.

TDS is a real disease

Committed treason to win presidency, was impeached, is the single most corrupt politician in USA history, over 40 sexual assault complaints, including rape and including stuff with kids. Blatantly racist. Single worst Covid response in the world. Suffering from dementia. Worst economic collapse since depression, sky high unemployment, hated throughout the world, destroyed America's reputation, despised by literally all educated people.

The worst part is how dumb you actually have to be to think he did anything good.
- James_Tanner

Ugh .... economic collapse? Corona Virus put people out of work, and now it's turning around.

Sky high unemployment? Virus, dummy, exacerbated by the Lefts willingness to crush hard working men and women from earning a living

Both economy and unemployment were at best levels ever before virus hit and will be again soon enough. It's ok Jimmy, ya got to blame someone for your pitiful life. I understand. Do you need any more $$ for rent or icecream for da kids? Just ask buddy

Why do I bother,. The Left will lose again in 2020.

So sorry

Pretty much everyone here who has argued Ruff's a good coach is missing the point: there is a group of people who are constantly recycled in the NHL. Lindy Ruff literally failed several times so badly that he was fired. The fact that the NHL is so comfortable hiring and rehiring the same 62 year old white guys over and over again is the problem.

You can say whatever you want to, but like all 60 year olds, Ruff learned what he knows 30 years ago. Are you telling me that there are no younger people who have come along since 1997 - when a 40 year old Ruff got his first NHL job - who could do coach in the NHL?

People are like yeah how many teams have been successful doing that? I would say the same amount of teams who've won with Lindy Ruff coaching.
- James_Tanner

Every coach is eventually fired. Hall of Fame coaches have been fired multiple times. It's the nature of the job. Ruff lasted 15 seasons coaching one team. You're making an asinine assumption here that Ruff has not grown or learned as a coach and only knows what he know from 30 years ago. You sound like an idiot.

Every coach is eventually fired. Hall of Fame coaches have been fired multiple times. It's the nature of the job. Ruff lasted 15 seasons coaching one team. You're making an asinine assumption here that Ruff has not grown or learned as a coach and only knows what he know from 30 years ago. You sound like an idiot.
- MJL

He is an idiot.

Pretty much everyone here who has argued Ruff's a good coach is missing the point: there is a group of people who are constantly recycled in the NHL. Lindy Ruff literally failed several times so badly that he was fired. The fact that the NHL is so comfortable hiring and rehiring the same 62 year old white guys over and over again is the problem.

You can say whatever you want to, but like all 60 year olds, Ruff learned what he knows 30 years ago. Are you telling me that there are no younger people who have come along since 1997 - when a 40 year old Ruff got his first NHL job - who could do coach in the NHL?

People are like yeah how many teams have been successful doing that? I would say the same amount of teams who've won with Lindy Ruff coaching.
- James_Tanner

You keep saying that the same coaches get recycled yet 12 coaches are on their first job. 8 are on their second stint after taking either assistant roles or head coaching roles in a different league in between. Hardly recycled and most are getting a second chance. Here is a list of "recycled"
Tortorella
Vigneault
Quenneville
Julien
Trotz
DeBoer
Tippett
All of these guys have impressive resumes that deserve to be hired again.


Which leaves Maurice, Ruff, McLellan, and Hynes (who was one of the young, up and coming coaches when hired by NJ) as the "retreads."

You keep saying that the same coaches get recycled yet 12 coaches are on their first job. 8 are on their second stint after taking either assistant roles or head coaching roles in a different league. Hardly recycled and most are getting a second chance. Here is a list of "recycled"
Tortorella
Vigneault
Quenneville
Julien
Trotz
DeBoer
Tippett
All of these guys have impressive resumes that deserve to be hired again.


Which leaves Maurice, Ruff, McLellan, and Hynes (who was one of the young, up and coming coaches when hired by NJ) as the "retreads."
- rmdevil313

Facts have no relevance here