Got that right. Consider a blueline with these prospects:

Carlsson - Boqvist
Beaudin - Mitchell
Krys - Regula
Demin, Kalynuk, Moberg, Vlasic

Versus these past prospects:

Barker - Johns
Olsen - Clendening
Dahlbeck - Holl
Danis-Pepin, Fournier, Lalonde, Paliotta

A few of them turned out okay but wouldn't want any of them over what we have today.

Johns is the only one in the group I would reconsider but he just came back from a devastating head injury.

Holl seems to be a late bloomer which is great in the grand scheme of wanting prospects to succeed somewhere.
- AEL_Fox

I agree that this current crop of D prospects is something to be excited about, but it is comparing apples and oranges, really. These past prospects all turned out somehow already, and looking back, Barker and Olsen were also thought of highly (same can be said about Lalonde and Clendening to some degree) and even though they did not meet these expectations, they still managed to have some kind of NHL career.

Only Barker was and Boqvist can be considered to have Top 2 potential, IMO. Johns and Mitchell come with similar expectations at similar stage of their career. Besides that, I don't see much difference between expectations for Danis-Pepin and Vlasic, Olsen and Beaudin (although very different style), Dahlbeck and Carlsson, Clendening and Regula, Fournier and Krys etc.

We already know the latter group mostly failed, but judging by the law of averages, most of the current group will not make it either. They simply look promising and developing nicely now and there is a lot of them with that promise, so hopefully some will pan out, sooner or later. But do you see next Keith, Seabrook, Hammer or Makar, Hughes, McAvoy, even Hronek among them at this stage? We shall find out eventually. I root for them. But I had such high hopes for Barker and Johns and all the others too (Steve McCarthy comes to mind)

Hmm not sure we have any "great" D or Forward prospects Dach is not enough I'll go for the "best player available."
- rpeters01

I think if we pick 10th Askarov will be the best player available .

I agree that this current crop of D prospects is something to be excited about, but it is comparing apples and oranges, really. These past prospects all turned out somehow already, and looking back, Barker and Olsen were also thought of highly (same can be said about Lalonde and Clendening to some degree) and even though they did not meet these expectations, they still managed to have some kind of NHL career.

Only Barker was and Boqvist can be considered to have Top 2 potential, IMO. Johns and Mitchell come with similar expectations at similar stage of their career. Besides that, I don't see much difference between expectations for Danis-Pepin and Vlasic, Olsen and Beaudin (although very different style), Dahlbeck and Carlsson, Clendening and Regula, Fournier and Krys etc.

We already know the latter group mostly failed, but judging by the law of averages, most of the current group will not make it either. They simply look promising and developing nicely now and there is a lot of them with that promise, so hopefully some will pan out, sooner or later. But do you see next Keith, Seabrook, Hammer or Makar, Hughes, McAvoy, even Hronek among them at this stage? We shall find out eventually. I root for them. But I had such high hopes for Barker and Johns and all the others too (Steve McCarthy comes to mind)
- stonefire

Excellent post, stoney. You are right about the law of averages.

Another apples to oranges comparison factor is the AHL coaching staff. Colliton and now King have done a much better job developing prospects than Dent ever did.

That is also on point that many of the past prospects did eventually crack NHL lineups at varying levels of success.

Even if a majority of the current prospects develop well, they all won't make it in the Hawks organization due to space constraints or because other prospects matured quicker and leapfrogged them to the big club.

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@Tramyers_NHL

Oilers announce defenseman Mike Green has opted out of the Return to Play program.

Tracey Myers
@Tramyers_NHL

Oilers announce defenseman Mike Green has opted out of the Return to Play program.
- pdx2ord

What did they give up to get him?

What did they give up to get him?
- tvetter

Bag of pucks...

I think if we pick 10th Askarov will be the best player available .
- oldduffman

Askarov or Quinn

What did they give up to get him?
- tvetter

"A few baseball cards, a sack of marbles ... Petey"

"A few baseball cards, a sack of marbles ... Petey"
- I Am The Breadman

"A few baseball cards, a sack of marbles ... Petey"
- I Am The Breadman

You sold my dead bird to a blind kid?!?!

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, Buff the great equalizer
- BetweenTheDots

That was 10 years ago...chicago sucks...now...and with these el cheapo cuts...for at least the next decade.

Good night chicago!

That was 10 years ago...chicago sucks...now...and with these el cheapo cuts...for at least the next decade.

Good night chicago!
- bruceflyers

Could you possibly be any more pathetic?

Could you possibly be any more pathetic?
- SimpleJack

I look and I see Philly is up against the cap no different than anyone else how many cups have they won in the last 30 years?

I look and I see Philly is up against the cap no different than anyone else how many cups have they won in the last 30 years?
- rpeters01

Checking the internet some votes towards a Flyers victory vs Pittsburgh but mixed voting if they go farther.

A popular choice has Colorado to upend Boston for The Holy Grail

Could you possibly be any more pathetic?
- SimpleJack

Worst excuse for a troll ever.

Not even good enough to be entertaining, just lame.

Askarov or Quinn
- DarthKane

Only Quinn if Askarov not there

- AEL_Fox

Glad you & SJ got it, hahaha!!

I look and I see Philly is up against the cap no different than anyone else how many cups have they won in the last 30 years?
- rpeters01

Same number as they’ve won in the last 40 or so. Couldn’t happen to a better expansion franchise.

Mentioned on Scott Burnside’s mailbag on The Athletic - no compliance buyouts in the new CBA.

Mentioned on Scott Burnside’s mailbag on The Athletic - no compliance buyouts in the new CBA.
- StLBravesFan

This will be interesting. Surprised as well

That was 10 years ago...chicago sucks...now...and with these el cheapo cuts...for at least the next decade.

Good night chicago!
- bruceflyers

Ahem...My guy you are not even entertaining!
If ya gonna troll at least give us all something to laugh about.
Back to the minor leagues for you.

Mentioned on Scott Burnside’s mailbag on The Athletic - no compliance buyouts in the new CBA.
- StLBravesFan

I have a subscription to TheAthletic but can't locate Burnside's mailbag. I'm not surprised there won't be compliance buyouts but would still like to read what he has to say. Can you post a link please.

I have a subscription to TheAthletic but can't locate Burnside's mailbag. I'm not surprised there won't be compliance buyouts but would still like to read what he has to say. Can you post a link please.
- EbonyRaptor

https://theathletic.com/1...s-return-to-play-and-cba/

It’s somewhere in the middle - a short response to a short question.

https://theathletic.com/1913669/2020/07/07/scott-burnside-answers-your-questions-about-the-nhls-return-to-play-and-cba/

It’s somewhere in the middle - a short response to a short question.
- StLBravesFan

Thank you sir.

So the city of Seattle recently passed a law taxing companies that employ workers making over a $150K per year anywhere from 0.7 to 2.4%. (Government agencies exempt from the tax.) Assuming the Seattle franchise will have 20 plus players and numerous employees making over 150K, conservatively the total effected payroll will be over $80M. Figure 80M is at the 2.4% high end of the tax bracket, so the owner of the Seattle franchise just got hit with about a $2M expense for doing business there.