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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 6:44 PM ET
I would say for the most part we’re in agreement. Who knows maybe what cholowski’s shown so far or svech’s unknown potential may seem more valuable in the eyes of Tampa’s staff
- RedC21

Yzerman says very little so it's almost impossible for Wings fans to know what he thinks about his own players. Whereas Holland would use his press dummies like HSJ, Khan, Kulfan, Wojo to justify what he was doing/thinking. If Tampa can get some decent picks and/or prospects while creating cap space to re-sign their RFA's, they'd likely be happy.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
Marincin is almost as bad as Jonathan Errorsson was. Pylon.
- gergeswillems


Marincin is literally the worst in the league. It's truly impressive how bad he is.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
Marincin is literally the worst in the league. It's truly impressive how bad he is.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Does Marincin have revealing pics of Dubas with goats, chickens or blow up dolls? I don't understand why the Leafs keep him around.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
Does Marincin have revealing pics of Dubas with goats, chickens or blow up dolls? I don't understand why the Leafs keep him around.
- gergeswillems


I honestly don't know.

Anyone who watches any of the games at all can see that he's the worst player on the ice every single time he steps out there. How people involved with the team can't see that is beyond me.

He'd be a great asset to any team tanking for a high pick, though.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 7:09 PM ET
I honestly don't know.

Anyone who watches any of the games at all can see that he's the worst player on the ice every single time he steps out there. How people involved with the team can't see that is beyond me.

He'd be a great asset to any team tanking for a high pick, though.

- GreatGigInTheSky

We're not very good at this.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
Kapenan, johnsson, and kerfoot are the three most likely players to move. With the cheap euro signings and rookies developing, 3rd and 4th liners will be where budget cuts are made (at least if they want to retain/improve their D core).

The way I see it Johnson and keefoot will likely be moved before kapenan. Kapenan is the most desirable of the three which also makes him the hardest for the leafs to replace. Also if they deal johnsson or kerfoot don’t expect picks or prospects with them to dump contracts as they are still pretty valuable players. While it won’t cost the acquiring team as much it’s likely a deal for either would be along the line of what Tampa did with JT miller last year


Finally someone is making sense. Everyone thnks AJ is only worth a second or third
rd. pk - he's worth more that that - maybe not quite JT ish, but has pleny of value
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 7:38 PM ET
Marincin is literally the worst in the league. It's truly impressive how bad he is.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Leafs just signed him for another year, he puts up “Dubas stats”

Maybe he’ll be Rielly’s partner







RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 10 @ 8:06 PM ET
Kapenan, johnsson, and kerfoot are the three most likely players to move. With the cheap euro signings and rookies developing, 3rd and 4th liners will be where budget cuts are made (at least if they want to retain/improve their D core).

The way I see it Johnson and keefoot will likely be moved before kapenan. Kapenan is the most desirable of the three which also makes him the hardest for the leafs to replace. Also if they deal johnsson or kerfoot don’t expect picks or prospects with them to dump contracts as they are still pretty valuable players. While it won’t cost the acquiring team as much it’s likely a deal for either would be along the line of what Tampa did with JT miller last year


Finally someone is making sense. Everyone thnks AJ is only worth a second or third
rd. pk - he's worth more that that - maybe not quite JT ish, but has pleny of value

- paulozz


Let’s not put words in my mouth here. I was simply saying the leafs wouldn’t have to give up assets to dump their contracts. Their contracts are right around what they’re worth for what they are which is 3rd liners. You might get a 2nd and a 4th or a 3rd at best, but not many (at least well run) teams are going to give more than that for a depth piece, especially in the off-season when draft picks tend to hold higher value to teams.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 8:22 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Dhali...tatus/1281698093281542146

That's cap hell. Before they even see the playoffs. Meanwhile the Leafs big 4 are going nowhere because they didn't spend 3 million per on Jay Beagle and 6.5 on Tyler Myers as UFAs.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 8:24 PM ET
Good blog, Dubas biggest mistake was not sending Nylander for Hamilton. Probably haunt the Leafs for years.
- Garnie


LOL what? You can trade Nylander now and his value is higher. Let's not forget before this season Hamilton was a disappointment.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 10 @ 8:45 PM ET
LOL what? You can trade Nylander now and his value is higher. Let's not forget before this season Hamilton was a disappointment.
- RogerRoeper


It’s actually funny, the few posts I’ve seen of yours I was under the assumption you’re an analytics guy.

Analytically speaking Hamilton has been one of the best D man in the league roughly since his 1st year or 2nd year in Calgary. Every analytics guy and their uncle thought the canes fleeced Calgary on that deal when it was made.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 8:50 PM ET
It’s actually funny, the few posts I’ve seen of yours I was under the assumption you’re an analytics guy.

Analytically speaking Hamilton has been one of the best D man in the league roughly since his 1st year or 2nd year in Calgary. Every analytics guy and their uncle thought the canes fleeced Calgary on that deal when it was made.

- RedC21

No. Roeper is a Leafs Homer who always pretends the Leafs are the victim. Everyone is against them. Everyone hates them. He even makes up crap to fit his own narrative. Plus he acts like the Leafs are the most perfect team in the NHL. Yet they haven't won anything. Roeper thinks Keefe and Dubas are the greatest and Lou Lam knows nothing.

Always making excuses when they lose. It's all Babcock's fault. Oh wait it's all Freddy Andersen's fault. It's all Kadri's fault. Now that he's in Colorado, he's garbage. But when he was a Leaf he was the best 3C in the NHL. Cheer for the laundry. He's also paranoid about the Isles too. The Leafs media is against the Leafs! Because they said this, that and the other! No they didn't. You said it. "William Nylander has the best contract in the NHL!!!!! But I was told by everyone else on the planet that Dubas caved!!!!!"
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:05 PM ET
No. Roeper is a Leafs Homer who always pretends the Leafs are the victim. Everyone is against them. Everyone hates them. He even makes up crap to fit his own narrative. Plus he acts like the Leafs are the most perfect team in the NHL. Yet they haven't won anything.

Always making excuses. It's all Babcock's fault. Oh wait it's all Freddy Andersen's fault. It's all Kadri's fault. Now that he's in Colorado, he's garbage. But when he was a Leaf he was the best 3C in the NHL. Cheer for the laundry. He's also paranoid about the Isles too. The Leafs media is against the Leafs! Because they said this, that and the other! No they didn't.

- gergeswillems


Haha , a friend of mine that’s a leafs fan once compared it to a 50 year old virgin getting a blow job. After years of being mocked for the joke of a team they cheered for they finally have something to brag about (their roster), but they still haven’t managed to get laid so the jokes continue.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 9:08 PM ET
Haha , a friend of mine that’s a leafs fan once compared it to a 50 year old virgin getting a blow job. After years of being mocked for the joke of a team they cheered for they finally have something to brag about (their roster), but they still haven’t managed to get laid so the jokes continue.
- RedC21

That's why Roeper has a vast blow up doll collection. His favourite doll is Willie Nylander. The blonde hair really gets him excited. "Everyone says the Leafs are in cap hell, Willie!!!! But look at the Isles!!!!!!!!! Leafs have the most Perfect roster in NHL history! No bad contracts!!!!!! The Canucks are so screeeeewwwwed!!!!!!!!"

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:03 PM ET
We're not very good at this.
- gergeswillems




Well, I've got a Marincin you might be interested in, then.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:05 PM ET
Leafs just signed him for another year, he puts up “Dubas stats”

Maybe he’ll be Rielly’s partner




- Garnie


gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:23 PM ET


Well, I've got a Marincin you might be interested in, then.

- GreatGigInTheSky

No thanks. I'd sooner light my junk on fire.

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:38 PM ET
No thanks. I'd sooner light my junk on fire.


- gergeswillems




I've had to put up with him for, like, 5 years now. You only need him for 2, tops, and he'd be helping you by not helping the team.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:39 PM ET


I've had to put up with him for, like, 5 years now. You only need him for 2, tops, and he'd be helping you by not helping the team.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I already watched the Pylon Ericsson for more years than I care to admit. Jobe has nothing on me. Besides, Gary won't allow the Wings to pick first.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:42 PM ET
I already watched the Pylon Ericsson for more years than I care to admit. Jobe has nothing on me. Besides, Gary won't allow the Wings to pick first.
- gergeswillems


I keep telling people. I'm available for commission. I am the undisputed Mock Draft Lottery King.

I've successfully gotten 3 of the past 4 years right. Not this year, since I didn't do it. But the team I try to get at 1st or quit right after I get them at 1st wins the real lottery.

Now, if you take Marincin and save the Leafs from themselves, I might be inclined to help.

But if I were you guys, I'd hope to win the 2022 draft more than any other. Shane Wright.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
It's all about the cost. If Tampa wants too much in return for Johnson and Palat then I'll pass. Yzerman isn't going to go all Paul Holmgren, fast tracking his franchise into the ground. Tampa and Detroit make ideal trade partners but it's not the end of the world if nothing happens.

Tampa has a Cup window and they want to keep as much of their core intact for as long as they can. Detroit wants to improve their overall talent so they can compete. Gain some confidence and show progression. I'd certainly be willing to trade Cholowski. I view him as a suspect as opposed to a prospect. I'd keep Rasmussen. There's some solid potential there. If he can turn into a big shutdown 3C then the Wings should keep him.

Buffalo seemed to have 2nd round picks to burn when they began their rebuild but it blew up in their face. They missed on too many picks and made trades for the sake of making trades. I don't want Yzerman to emulate that model at all. It clearly didn't work. Quality over quantity. I don't want a Brian Burke fast track in Detroit. Yzerman won't do that. He doesn't crave attention like Burke does.

- gergeswillems

Let Steve Y do his job, let him build. Funny you bring Buffalo up. We really screwed the pooch in 2015-16, we had 3 1st and the 31st pick in that draft, we selected Eichel and then traded the other 3 picks for players not even on are team anymore. We have been paying for fast tracking ever since. Keep building, Detroit's in good hands.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jul 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
Late Congratulations on your 200th blog! I have not been around for all of them, but I have sure enjoyed the ones I have seen. With that said, I can hardly wait for your 1000th bog!
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