Exactly can't have too many young D play at the same time why Fabri not a Tanev solution and other experienced D for top four roles needed for now. - NuckUp
Yes RD only has Rafferty and Woo as prospect replacements. Add Tryamkin to the mix there still is a need for experienced D to play the right side. Yes Benn not cutting it either in the cheap stay at home category you mention.
Rathbone has ties to Brackett on a personal level and he pushed for his drafting. Maybe Brackett influences Wild on trade for Dumba that includes Rathbone in a package. - NuckUp
Salary in salary out. Ratbone ain’t doing it if Boeser is traded. Too much to do that imo
You do know they don't have to move him this is a choice. They have chosen between Jake Brock and Toffoli as to who is the odd man out.
Benning is not going to sit on his ass just to say to Marwood I am not in Cap Trouble. He does not make his decisions around what the fan base thinks.
If you remember months ago I personally mentioned about trading a player like Jake to get a young D . This was well before the announcement of a flat cap. It is a natural progression as far as I am concerned. It looks like Jake is passing Brock on the depth charts. - VANTEL
Well Hogs, Podz and Lind are all going to be pushing for roster spots. Though I think as rookies they will do better on the 3rd line. Which would mean Toffoli gets signed and JV moved up while Pearson extended. That's one way to go. - NuckUp
Miller could switch to RW
So Jake can still be 3 RW.
Pearson Ferland can be 1-2 LW
Hoglander 3 LW
I don't understand why the concept of one of them moving to the left side is unthinkable. Pearson would be better suited as a 3rd liner anyway.
I get the idea of trading for a Dman, but I don't think Brock is the guy you should move to accomplish that. Replacing him with JV is an objective downgrade, and I'm a fan of JV. - NorthNuck
You do know they don't have to move him this is a choice. They have chosen between Jake Brock and Toffoli as to who is the odd man out.
Benning is not going to sit on his ass just to say to Marwood I am not in Cap Trouble. He does not make his decisions around what the fan base thinks.
If you remember months ago I personally mentioned about trading a player like Jake to get a young D . This was well before the announcement of a flat cap. It is a natural progression as far as I am concerned. It looks like Jake is passing Brock on the depth charts. - VANTEL
Bit of a leap of assumption,
1st off as you stated Benning doesn't have to do anything, and he most certainly does not have Marwood on his mind. Marwood is making an opinionated statement based on the cap situation the Canucks are in. Yes he can do absolutely nothing and in 2 years time be screwed with upcoming contracts or having players walk for nothing whatsoever, really poor asset management.
This is the whole semantics piece between cap issues and no cap issues, I don't know why it has to go back and forth with such closed mindedness.
2nd, I personally do not believe Jake is anywhere near Boeser on a depth chart, Boeser is the most valuable trading asset Canucks have. He will fetch at least a 1st round pick, Virtanen would fetch a late 2nd or 3rd.
And you can bet dollars to donuts that there will be a lot of criticism of Benning trading Boeser (a young valuable skilled player) because the Canucks are pressed up against the cap.
And I am a fan of Benning, but some contracts have pushed the cap issue and know he needs to be creative and proactive to keep improving the team.
According to this Fabro still needs sheltering not ready for larger role.
"1) Top-Four Defenseman: Despite having one of the best top-four pieces in the NHL before this season started, the Predators knew they here hoping for a lot when they traded P.K. Subban and handing his role to rookie Dante Fabbro. He has had an up-and-down year, but injuries to other members of the top-four, including Ryan Ellis, has forced their third pairing players to move into the top four at times, which has been a disaster, which means the team could really use another top-four blueliner and move Fabbro down a notch on the depth chart. Many feel that New Jersey’s Sami Vatanen could be a good fit here." - NuckUp
I have RHD Vatanen in one of my Capriendly ACGM rosters.
Joking/satire aside there are scenarios to them moving on:
1)Sutter's got a year left and serviceable enough for a trade with some retention needed.
2)Beagle plays a needed role but could be bought out or wind up retiring on LTIR with his chronic hip problems at some point.
3)LE's cap removal is really the only need for cap flexibility. The Canucks when faced with Cap needs on players they want will make a push to get him off the books and not by trade. Its in their best interest to see him mutually terminate if he still wants to play, LTIR retired or consultant role retire to pay out $5M left. - NuckUp
LE can be buried in Utica. Savings goes to an ELC who earns it over him.
1st off as you stated Benning doesn't have to do anything, and he most certainly does not have Marwood on his mind. Marwood is making an opinionated statement based on the cap situation the Canucks are in. Yes he can do absolutely nothing and in 2 years time be screwed with upcoming contracts or having players walk for nothing whatsoever, really poor asset management.
This is the whole semantics piece between cap issues and no cap issues, I don't know why it has to go back and forth with such closed mindedness.
2nd, I personally do not believe Jake is anywhere near Boeser on a depth chart, Boeser is the most valuable trading asset Canucks have. He will fetch at least a 1st round pick, Virtanen would fetch a late 2nd or 3rd.
And you can bet dollars to donuts that there will be a lot of criticism of Benning trading Boeser (a young valuable skilled player) because the Canucks are pressed up against the cap.
And I am a fan of Benning, but some contracts have pushed the cap issue and know he needs to be creative and proactive to keep improving the team. - Makita
On so called cap issues anyone take either side but means very little if anything imo.
I constantly suggest using Capriendly ACGM to see how it all works out. Beats the heck outta opinions without a working example to back it up.
On so called cap issues anyone take either side but means very little if anything imo.
I constantly suggest using Capriendly ACGM to see how it all works out. Beats the heck outta opinions without a working example to back it up. - Nighthawk
I'm not as techy savy as most here, and I'll admit not knowing what ACGM means.
I do like the conversations on trades, player abilities, possible inclusions and exclusions. It's always interesting seeing different names thrown around and how they would fit into the lineups.
1st off as you stated Benning doesn't have to do anything, and he most certainly does not have Marwood on his mind. Marwood is making an opinionated statement based on the cap situation the Canucks are in. Yes he can do absolutely nothing and in 2 years time be screwed with upcoming contracts or having players walk for nothing whatsoever, really poor asset management.
This is the whole semantics piece between cap issues and no cap issues, I don't know why it has to go back and forth with such closed mindedness.
2nd, I personally do not believe Jake is anywhere near Boeser on a depth chart, Boeser is the most valuable trading asset Canucks have. He will fetch at least a 1st round pick, Virtanen would fetch a late 2nd or 3rd.
And you can bet dollars to donuts that there will be a lot of criticism of Benning trading Boeser (a young valuable skilled player) because the Canucks are pressed up against the cap.
And I am a fan of Benning, but some contracts have pushed the cap issue and know he needs to be creative and proactive to keep improving the team. - Makita
How would he be screwed in 2 years time? In 2 years Sutter, Eriksson, Beagle, Edler, Benn + all are off the books. If anything, in 2 years time JB is golden.
Jake isn't near Boeser, I completely agree. I would prefer to trade JV over Boeser if one had to go. Especially with Podk coming up. But, that's the thing: if they think they can trade Boeser to fill a big hole on D with a young player, and at the end of next year have TT, Podk, and JV as their top 9 RWs, that would be something different. Trading him for a draft pick isn't worth it.
Edit: They have 33+ mil coming off the books in the next two years, between players, buyouts, recapture, etc. Mind you they'll have to up players and whatnot, but it's still a lot to work with.
I'm not as techy savy as most here, and I'll admit not knowing what ACGM means.
I do like the conversations on trades, player abilities, possible inclusions and exclusions. It's always interesting seeing different names thrown around and how they would fit into the lineups. - Makita
Armchair GM that ppl can sign/trade/set line-ups & has all you need eg cap going forward etc. Not really techy just the doing. I’m no techy.
1st off as you stated Benning doesn't have to do anything, and he most certainly does not have Marwood on his mind. Marwood is making an opinionated statement based on the cap situation the Canucks are in. Yes he can do absolutely nothing and in 2 years time be screwed with upcoming contracts or having players walk for nothing whatsoever, really poor asset management.
This is the whole semantics piece between cap issues and no cap issues, I don't know why it has to go back and forth with such closed mindedness.
2nd, I personally do not believe Jake is anywhere near Boeser on a depth chart, Boeser is the most valuable trading asset Canucks have. He will fetch at least a 1st round pick, Virtanen would fetch a late 2nd or 3rd.
And you can bet dollars to donuts that there will be a lot of criticism of Benning trading Boeser (a young valuable skilled player) because the Canucks are pressed up against the cap.
And I am a fan of Benning, but some contracts have pushed the cap issue and know he needs to be creative and proactive to keep improving the team. - Makita
Benning and his team have made decisions on what the NHL had quoted to all teams. They came out approximately 6 weeks before the shut down and said the salary cap is going up to 84.5 mil. A pandemic happened. Moves were made on official numbers stated by the head of the NHL.
Now they have removed that 3 million dollars. Not only to the Canucks but to the entire NHL which makes it harder to make trades and moves league wide.
Lets make no mistake about this they can just walk away from Toffoli and say oh well there was a pandemic and things changed. If Canucks liked Brock more than Toffoli this would not even be an issue. Apparently it looks like they like Toffoli more.
You are entitled to like Brock more than Jake , I am not a big fan of Boeser and thought his contract was too much but less than what the fan base thought.
Like you said yesterday none of us will be doing the contracts, drafting , or trading so what does it matter what anyone thinks.
So my thinking is if they want to move a young guy for a young Dman to fill a hole and Jake plays next year for 5 months until Podkolzen gets here I am perfectly fine .
Petey will sign the following year so will Hughes . Miler and Bo are locked up . The rest will fall in place and we will be a top 10 team. If I am wrong oh well.
How would he be screwed in 2 years time? In 2 years Sutter, Eriksson, Beagle, Edler, Benn + all are off the books. If anything, in 2 years time JB is golden.
Jake isn't near Boeser, I completely agree. I would prefer to trade JV over Boeser if one had to go. Especially with Podk coming up. But, that's the thing: if they think they can trade Boeser to fill a big hole on D with a young player, and at the end of next year have TT, Podk, and JV as their top 9 RWs, that would be something different. Trading him for a draft pick isn't worth it. - NewYorkNuck
Cap space is always a consideration & makes JV a cheaper option if someone like Pod needs a spot. Boeser saves us 3m in cap if he’s moved. That helps a ton if the deal makes sense depending on how much cap comes back & the piece we get.
1st off as you stated Benning doesn't have to do anything, and he most certainly does not have Marwood on his mind. Marwood is making an opinionated statement based on the cap situation the Canucks are in. Yes he can do absolutely nothing and in 2 years time be screwed with upcoming contracts or having players walk for nothing whatsoever, really poor asset management.
This is the whole semantics piece between cap issues and no cap issues, I don't know why it has to go back and forth with such closed mindedness.
2nd, I personally do not believe Jake is anywhere near Boeser on a depth chart, Boeser is the most valuable trading asset Canucks have. He will fetch at least a 1st round pick, Virtanen would fetch a late 2nd or 3rd.
And you can bet dollars to donuts that there will be a lot of criticism of Benning trading Boeser (a young valuable skilled player) because the Canucks are pressed up against the cap.
And I am a fan of Benning, but some contracts have pushed the cap issue and know he needs to be creative and proactive to keep improving the team. - Makita
Staying out of the tongue in cheek cap compliant farce. You might want to call the Canucks position as not a cap issue or a problem but one of Cap flexibility in who to keep or go after. There are teams like TB that don't have room to make to keep all their valued RFA's like Sergachev. That's an issue and one of asset management where UFA's are not assets.
The Canucks are faced with do they keep all their high value UFA's and how do they fit them in long term. In a couple years they will actually have more room if they do nothing with contracts coming off to spend on their valued RFA's.
Staying out of the tongue in cheek cap compliant farce. You might want to call the Canucks position as not a cap issue or a problem but one of Cap flexibility in who to keep or go after. There are teams like TB that don't have room to make to keep all their valued RFA's like Sergachev. That's an issue and one of asset management where UFA's are not assets.
The Canucks are faced with do they keep all their high value UFA's and how do they fit them in long term. In a couple years they will actually have more room if they do nothing with contracts coming off to spend on their valued RFA's. - NuckUp
Canucks should walk away from Toffoli. Benning trades a second and Madden for rental Toffoli . A page taken from the guru Mike Gillis. a second for Carney . A second for Roy
Sign Jake Marky and Tanev and everything is honky dory .
That will give us a full year to start worrying about next years cap issues.
