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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
To Minnesota perhaps, or NJ.
- VanHockeyGuy



My guess is they will wait and see if they get a draft pick or not in the RTP series. If they get a top 15 pick this year they will move him for a Dman . If they don't they will trade for maybe the number 10 off NJ . He would look good along side of Hughes.

I think the Brock to Minny is something the fan base made up there are so many better options than that. A good young RHD man like Fabro or something along that line.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
$5,875,000 Cap hit for BB, so exploring a trade makes sense. He'd net a good return.
- VanHockeyGuy

Too bad the Canucks don't have the cap space to keep him.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
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Matt Sekeres: I'm told the Canucks are exploring the possibility of trading Brock Boeser.



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Not surprised at all

- VANTEL

I thought we didn't have cap issues??
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:30 PM ET
Too bad the Canucks don't have the cap space to keep him.
- Marwood




Yes yes, Boeser the cap casualty
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:32 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
Matt Sekeres: I'm told the Canucks are exploring the possibility of trading Brock Boeser.

- VanHockeyGuy


Wonder if they think Hoglander is ready?

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 10 @ 5:34 PM ET
Thinking on LHD Hughes OJ Rathbone they all can use a Tanev type partner unless 1 can switch to the right side without missing beat. Hughes said he can play there ok.

Myers is the only RHD locked up for awhile so I can see Tanev being re-upped. Stecher doesn’t fit our needs imo so he’s either on the cheap cheap or gone for a cheap stay at home RHD. Those are not that difficult to find it comes down to the who & how much so the cap is ok.

- Nighthawk


Yes RD only has Rafferty and Woo as prospect replacements. Add Tryamkin to the mix there still is a need for experienced D to play the right side. Yes Benn not cutting it either in the cheap stay at home category you mention.

Rathbone has ties to Brackett on a personal level and he pushed for his drafting. Maybe Brackett influences Wild on trade for Dumba that includes Rathbone in a package.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:35 PM ET
I thought we didn't have cap issues??
- NorthNuck


You do know they don't have to move him this is a choice. They have chosen between Jake Brock and Toffoli as to who is the odd man out.

Benning is not going to sit on his ass just to say to Marwood I am not in Cap Trouble. He does not make his decisions around what the fan base thinks.

If you remember months ago I personally mentioned about trading a player like Jake to get a young D . This was well before the announcement of a flat cap. It is a natural progression as far as I am concerned. It looks like Jake is passing Brock on the depth charts.



NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
You do know they don't have to move him this is a choice. They have chosen between Jake Brock and Toffoli as to who is the odd man out.

Benning is not going to sit on his ass just to say to Marwood I am not in Cap Trouble. He does not make his decisions around what the fan base thinks.

If you remember months ago I personally mentioned about trading a player like Jake to get a young D . This was well before the announcement of a flat cap. It is a natural progression as far as I am concerned. It looks like Jake is passing Brock on the depth charts.

- VANTEL

But if you get rid of beagle and sutter or eriksson you can keep them all
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
Wonder if they think Hoglander is ready?
- NewYorkNuck


Podkolzen is definitely ready May 1 2021
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
Wonder if they think Hoglander is ready?
- NewYorkNuck


Well Hogs, Podz and Lind are all going to be pushing for roster spots. Though I think as rookies they will do better on the 3rd line. Which would mean Toffoli gets signed and JV moved up while Pearson extended. That's one way to go.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:43 PM ET
But if you get rid of beagle and sutter or eriksson you can keep them all
- NorthNuck


They could buy out Sutter but it still doesn't answer the fact that they have three top 6 RH forwards to fill two spots .

You move Brock for a guy like Fabro and you fix a lot of problems like Tanev .
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:45 PM ET
Anyone Brackett was involved in drafting is now linked to Minnesota.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
But if you get rid of beagle and sutter or eriksson you can keep them all
- NorthNuck

You need over priced mentors on long contracts. Build from the 4th line up.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 10 @ 5:47 PM ET
They could buy out Sutter but it still doesn't answer the fact that they have three top 6 RH forwards to fill two spots .

You move Brock for a guy like Fabro and you fix a lot of problems like Tanev .

- VANTEL

I don't understand why the concept of one of them moving to the left side is unthinkable. Pearson would be better suited as a 3rd liner anyway.

I get the idea of trading for a Dman, but I don't think Brock is the guy you should move to accomplish that. Replacing him with JV is an objective downgrade, and I'm a fan of JV.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 10 @ 5:51 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
Matt Sekeres: I'm told the Canucks are exploring the possibility of trading Brock Boeser.

- VanHockeyGuy

Old news

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 10 @ 5:53 PM ET
They could buy out Sutter but it still doesn't answer the fact that they have three top 6 RH forwards to fill two spots .

You move Brock for a guy like Fabro and you fix a lot of problems like Tanev .

- VANTEL



According to this Fabro still needs sheltering not ready for larger role.

"1) Top-Four Defenseman: Despite having one of the best top-four pieces in the NHL before this season started, the Predators knew they here hoping for a lot when they traded P.K. Subban and handing his role to rookie Dante Fabbro. He has had an up-and-down year, but injuries to other members of the top-four, including Ryan Ellis, has forced their third pairing players to move into the top four at times, which has been a disaster, which means the team could really use another top-four blueliner and move Fabbro down a notch on the depth chart. Many feel that New Jersey’s Sami Vatanen could be a good fit here."
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:54 PM ET
I don't understand why the concept of one of them moving to the left side is unthinkable. Pearson would be better suited as a 3rd liner anyway.

I get the idea of trading for a Dman, but I don't think Brock is the guy you should move to accomplish that. Replacing him with JV is an objective downgrade, and I'm a fan of JV.

- NorthNuck


First of all this is just a rumor. Nothing official from Canucks.

Secondly I think Brock had a disappointing year and if they can get value for him I am okay with that. I don't know how many times last year I seen in here his shot is not as good.

VHG said two days ago what about trading Pearson and then comes back with a legitimate question what if it influences Toffoli?

No matter what decision is made you will have people in here pumping their chests and saying I told you so. The fact is they have too many forwards .




VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:58 PM ET
According to this Fabro still needs sheltering not ready for larger role.

"1) Top-Four Defenseman: Despite having one of the best top-four pieces in the NHL before this season started, the Predators knew they here hoping for a lot when they traded P.K. Subban and handing his role to rookie Dante Fabbro. He has had an up-and-down year, but injuries to other members of the top-four, including Ryan Ellis, has forced their third pairing players to move into the top four at times, which has been a disaster, which means the team could really use another top-four blueliner and move Fabbro down a notch on the depth chart. Many feel that New Jersey’s Sami Vatanen could be a good fit here."

- NuckUp


Hughes still needs sheltering too, what's your point?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 6:01 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
4m
Matt Sekeres: I'm told the Canucks are exploring the possibility of trading Brock Boeser.



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Not surprised at all

- VANTEL


Either am I. He’s a sniper which are not a dime a dozen but scoring has spread thru the line-up. F logjam & he has a huge value & signed for 3yrs. JB probably getting calls idk if he’s shopping him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 6:02 PM ET
To Minnesota perhaps, or NJ.
- VanHockeyGuy

My guesses & add Buffalo who needs a RW. Canuckdom is gonna go crazy bet on it 😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 6:03 PM ET
My guess is they will wait and see if they get a draft pick or not in the RTP series. If they get a top 15 pick this year they will move him for a Dman . If they don't they will trade for maybe the number 10 off NJ . He would look good along side of Hughes.

I think the Brock to Minny is something the fan base made up there are so many better options than that. A good young RHD man like Fabro or something along that line.

- VANTEL

I’m cool with RHD Fabro but they still add imo
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 6:04 PM ET
Either am I. He’s a sniper which are not a dime a dozen but scoring has spread thru the line-up. F logjam & he has a huge value & signed for 3yrs. JB probably getting calls idk if he’s shopping him.
- Nighthawk


Brock got moved to Gaudettes line for a few games last year . Teams usually make that move when you are struggling not when you are excelling.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 6:04 PM ET
I thought we didn't have cap issues??
- NorthNuck

We have options issues. Which way do we go. No problems here cuz I luv our roster other than D at this time.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 6:05 PM ET
Wonder if they think Hoglander is ready?
- NewYorkNuck

Gotta be something like that. JV turns into top 6 RW til Pod arrives then who knows. Miller also plays RW.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 10 @ 6:07 PM ET
But if you get rid of beagle and sutter or eriksson you can keep them all
- NorthNuck


Joking/satire aside there are scenarios to them moving on:

1)Sutter's got a year left and serviceable enough for a trade with some retention needed.

2)Beagle plays a needed role but could be bought out or wind up retiring on LTIR with his chronic hip problems at some point.

3)LE's cap removal is really the only need for cap flexibility. The Canucks when faced with Cap needs on players they want will make a push to get him off the books and not by trade. Its in their best interest to see him mutually terminate if he still wants to play, LTIR retired or consultant role retire to pay out $5M left.
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