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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:36 PM ET
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 10 @ 10:36 PM ET
Now that the Leafs schedule has been released for the return to play series, is anyone cancelling their plans on August 2, 4, 6, 7 and 9th?
- PatC80
Ihav


I was going to take the 7th off.
I haven't seen the schedule yet. what time to they play at ..
I'll scoot over to TSN




PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:45 PM ET


If by some miracle he's good enough to actually get into some games, it'd be amazing.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Normally, I think it would be too soon.. This season will be anything but normal. I don't think this will hurt his development
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:45 PM ET
Ihav


I was going to take the 7th off.
I haven't seen the schedule yet. what time to they play at ..
I'll scoot over to TSN

- zazzle

Not sure about start time..
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:50 PM ET
Up to $750,000 and possible jail for any Jays breaking quarantine. I sure hope they apply that to all teams if they play games here
- Canada Cup

So a typical Friday We “donation”
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 10 @ 10:54 PM ET
Not sure about start time..
- PatC80



TBD
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:03 PM ET
So a typical Friday We “donation”
- drexel


I think you mean kickback
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:08 PM ET
Mike, I found your latest blog a bit confusing. Adding players who are going to be exclusively placed on LTIR does not create additional cap space (beyond allowing to exceed the cap by the amount by the cap hit of that player.) The cap hit of the player still counts against the cap.

If a team has 5 million in cap space and they sign a 5 million cap hit player to be placed on LTIR, the team does not have 10 million in cap space. All they have done is to allow themselves to exceed the cap by 5 million. It's swapping money with a serious drawback.

Teams that use LTIR are no longer "banking" used cap money. In the scenario where the 5 million LTIR player is put on the roster and another 4 million cap hit player is signed, that available 1 million is not banked over the season. Conversely, a team under the limit will accumulate unused cap $$ that can be used at the trade deadline to sign a higher cap hit player. This simply can't happen in an LTIR scenario. The team loses that flexibility.

A possible advantage to purposefully packing a team with LTIR players is if they expect to have those players back for the playoffs and the LTIR players are activated once the playoffs start - since the cap rules don't count in the playoffs. The Blackhawks did this in 2015 when Kane went on LTIR. They used the LTIR space to acquire Timonen, Desrajdin and Vermette. They activated Kane when they playoffs started and all players were played in the playoffs.

The new CBA is still using the previous LTIR rules. Nothing changed in that aspect.

A lot of teams are in cap hell, but, I don't see how obtaining LTIR players is going to make more cap space.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:17 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky



I can't wait, but I can't believe no Saturday for leafs.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
Put your $ on the Leafs winning the cup
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
Put your $ on the Leafs winning the cup
- RogerRoeper

CBJ✔️
TB✔️
PHI✔️
COL✔️
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:34 PM ET
I can't wait, but I can't believe no Saturday for leafs.
- burn


Maybe it's gonna be give and take?

Leafs get prime time every game but don't get a Saturday?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:37 PM ET
Now that the Leafs schedule has been released for the return to play series, is anyone cancelling their plans on August 2, 4, 6, 7 and 9th?
- PatC80

Booked a cottage in the muskokas back in January during that week.

Now I’m freaking out because I don’t remember if it has satellite/cable.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:40 PM ET
Put your $ on the Leafs winning the cup
- RogerRoeper

Will you?

B'ah humbug you will not
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:41 PM ET
Travis hamonic opting out for the flames.

Is he the one that collapsed in practice earlier this year?

If it is then you can’t fault the guy.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:42 PM ET
I just smelt nice buttered toast in a room where there isn't any.
At least it wasn't burnt toast.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:44 PM ET
Travis hamonic opting out for the flames.

Is he the one that collapsed in practice earlier this year?

If it is then you can’t fault the guy.

- bryant

This will affect his UFA me think as teams will think twice before signing him
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 11 @ 12:07 AM ET


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:18 AM ET



- GreatGigInTheSky

😁😁😁
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:21 AM ET
Booked a cottage in the muskokas back in January during that week.

Now I’m freaking out because I don’t remember if it has satellite/cable.

- bryant

Yeah. Call the cottage to confirm.. Hopefully it's got Wi-Fi
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:24 AM ET
This will affect his UFA me think as teams will think twice before signing him
- zazzle

Doubt it. Hamonic is not playing because his daughter has a respiratory illness..
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 11 @ 1:28 AM ET
Travis hamonic opting out for the flames.

Is he the one that collapsed in practice earlier this year?

If it is then you can’t fault the guy.

- bryant



That was Brodie
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 7:33 AM ET
Maybe it's gonna be give and take?

Leafs get prime time every game but don't get a Saturday?

- GreatGigInTheSky



I hope so.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Doubt it. Hamonic is not playing because his daughter has a respiratory illness..
- PatC80


Baertschi out also
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Baertschi out also
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I figured the number would be 5 or less, but I think the number will be higher.
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