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cdn_Isles_fan
New York Islanders
Location: ottawa, ON
Joined: 11.20.2015

Jul 15 @ 9:14 AM ET
I oft suspected that Upstate was a fellow Canadian.
- Wildschwein


He's more than qualified...He enjoys his beer
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
https://jfresh.substack.c...e-islanders-cap-nightmare
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
https://jfresh.substack.com/p/breaking-down-the-islanders-cap-nightmare
- RogerRoeper


https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs


RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs



- niteislander

Worst cap hell in the NHL
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
Worst cap hell in the NHL
- RogerRoeper


You guys are still paying Kessel and Lehner.. lol Kessel for 2 more years.


Isles are more than fine .. despite Toronto fans constantly trying to say the opposite. tons of cap room, no UFA's that matter this summer.. there is Zero cap issues. They gave Sorokin that money this year so he would take 2 mil next year. They have almost half the cap coming off the books in 2 years. sign a couple of guys to bridge deals until then.. it's not an issue despite stupid articles saying the opposite.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
You guys are still paying Kessel and Lehner.. lol Kessel for 2 more years.


Isles are more than fine .. despite Toronto fans constantly trying to say the opposite. tons of cap room, no UFA's that matter this summer.. there is Zero cap issues. They gave Sorokin that money this year so he would take 2 mil next year. They have almost half the cap coming off the books in 2 years. sign a couple of guys to bridge deals until then.. it's not an issue despite stupid articles saying the opposite.

- niteislander


Lehner is paid until the end of the playoffs. They bought a draft pick with that $. You idiots traded a 1st and second for a 35 point third liner and gave him 6 years at 5 million per. That's why Islanders are in a horrible cap situation. Stop overpaying for aging supporting talent

Islanders are not "Fine". There's no cap and there's 6-8 contracts that will be very hard to move. They now are at their own mercy regarding Barzal.

And stop bragging about how contracts expire in 2 years. Nelson, Lee. Pageau's deals will look terrible by then.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Lehner is paid until the end of the playoffs. They bought a draft pick with that $. You idiots traded a 1st and second for a 35 point third liner and gave him 6 years at 5 million per. That's why Islanders are in a horrible cap situation. Stop overpaying for aging supporting talent

Islanders are not "Fine". There's no cap and there's 6-8 contracts that will be very hard to move. They now are at their own mercy regarding Barzal.

And stop bragging about how contracts expire in 2 years. Nelson, Lee. Pageau's deals will look terrible by then.

- RogerRoeper


But yet we can win a PO Round you douche

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
But yet we can win a PO Round you douche

- nyisles7


You've won 2 playoff rounds in 27 years. If not for Tavares it would be 1.

Nice way to try to change the subject that that's a terrible core you've got locked-up.

That Pageau deal was insane.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
You've won 2 playoff rounds in 27 years. If not for Tavares it would be 1.

Nice way to try to change the subject that that's a terrible core you've got locked-up.

That Pageau deal was insane.

- RogerRoeper

Agreed. Tavares was incredible in that series against Florida. You guys are lucky to have him. In fact, I predict the Leafs will win the Cup..........not necessarily this season, but soon, I tell you, soon! I can feel it in my bones....
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
Stick to creepy PM's Rog

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:22 AM ET
Agreed. Tavares was incredible in that series against Florida. You guys are lucky to have him. In fact, I predict the Leafs will win the Cup..........not necessarily this season, but soon, I tell you, soon! I can feel it in my bones....
- JohnScammo


Well when the league gives them home ice for the POs it may help.
BTW tell your bones :

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
Well when the league gives them home ice for the POs it may help.
BTW tell your bones :


- nyisles7


The league chose the best and safest city they could.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
Lehner is paid until the end of the playoffs. They bought a draft pick with that $. You idiots traded a 1st and second for a 35 point third liner and gave him 6 years at 5 million per. That's why Islanders are in a horrible cap situation. Stop overpaying for aging supporting talent

Islanders are not "Fine". There's no cap and there's 6-8 contracts that will be very hard to move. They now are at their own mercy regarding Barzal.

And stop bragging about how contracts expire in 2 years. Nelson, Lee. Pageau's deals will look terrible by then.

- RogerRoeper


A. he has 26 goals this year in 67 games. (your 10 mill / 11 mill a year guys have 26 JT, and 16 Marner.

b. I would not expect a Leaf Moron to understand how important a 2 way center who can kill penalties and also score goals on the 3rd line is to a team. You would rather pay 1/2 the cap to 4 forwards and wonder why you get bounced every year in the first round. good luck ...

C. I am sure we will not hear from u anymore soon. get your dopey trolling in now while u can
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Lehner is paid until the end of the playoffs. They bought a draft pick with that $. You idiots traded a 1st and second for a 35 point third liner and gave him 6 years at 5 million per. That's why Islanders are in a horrible cap situation. Stop overpaying for aging supporting talent

Islanders are not "Fine". There's no cap and there's 6-8 contracts that will be very hard to move. They now are at their own mercy regarding Barzal.

And stop bragging about how contracts expire in 2 years. Nelson, Lee. Pageau's deals will look terrible by then.

- RogerRoeper



I doubt that very much.. we are not paying them $11 mill a year.. fyi.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Well when the league gives them home ice for the POs it may help.
BTW tell your bones :


- nyisles7

Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
https://jfresh.substack.com/p/breaking-down-the-islanders-cap-nightmare
- RogerRoeper


They wont believe you. Everything is fine, they say.

I do think the $8.1 mil cap space is way off. Perhaps they forgot to add in Toews, Barzal and Pulock current salaries. Lou will need to mortgage the future and go the Toronto 'huge signing bonus' route to make it work. Even with that, he'll need to move contracts over the next 2 years, with few picks / AHL options to fill the voids.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:59 AM ET


I doubt that very much.. we are not paying them $11 mill a year.. fyi.

- niteislander



This comment shows you don't get it. You think they are "Only" making 5, 6 and 7 million per so it's better than a Matthews or Marner contract. Matthews and Marner are 23 and under. The Isles 3 are 27, 29 and 30. They are all signed to a later age than Tavares will be when his deal ends. And certainly none of the 3 are game breakers. Matthews and Marner are young stars you build around.

Islanders were 21st in GF and are about to spend more on their forwards than the Leafs despite Leafs paying 40 million for 4 forwards. Let that sink in for a second...

Paying a Pageau at 5 million per for years 28 to 34 IS a much worse contract than Paying a Matthews 11.6 per at 22.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Team A, with goals by Kuhnhackl and Barzal, blanks Team B, 2-0, as Varlamov gets the shutout.
That's it for Day 3 of #Isles
Training Camp.


Still can't score more than 2 goals even when we're both teams!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Team A, with goals by Kuhnhackl and Barzal, blanks Team B, 2-0, as Varlamov gets the shutout.
That's it for Day 3 of #Isles
Training Camp.


Still can't score more than 2 goals even when we're both teams!

- UIF

JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Team A, with goals by Kuhnhackl and Barzal, blanks Team B, 2-0, as Varlamov gets the shutout.
That's it for Day 3 of #Isles
Training Camp.


Still can't score more than 2 goals even when we're both teams!

- UIF



I'm also impressed that Kuhnackl scored a goal. That likely constitutes his offensive output for the remainder of the season.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 15 @ 12:36 PM ET


I'm also impressed that Kuhnackl scored a goal. That likely constitutes his offensive output for the remainder of the season.

- JohnScammo



"I score in practice all the time!"

--Trevor Gillies, and probably Tom Kuhnhackl.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 15 @ 12:47 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Team A, with goals by Kuhnhackl and Barzal, blanks Team B, 2-0, as Varlamov gets the shutout.
That's it for Day 3 of #Isles
Training Camp.


Still can't score more than 2 goals even when we're both teams!

- UIF


Funny, but scary. I have this recurring nightmare of the Isles scoring just 2 goals while getting swept by Fla.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:55 PM ET
"I score in practice all the time!"

--Trevor Gillies, and probably Tom Kuhnhackl.

- UIF


Trevor "Known for only one NHL game, but what a game!" Gillies
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:56 PM ET
Funny, but scary. I have this recurring nightmare of the Isles scoring just 2 goals while getting swept by Fla.
- Puckin_Island

Hopefully, the nightmare ends when the Isles win the draft lottery.
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