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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Pittsburgh and Montreal to play in prime time + Penguins roster Pittsburgh and Montreal to play in prime time + Penguins roster
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
Montreal deserves the Primetime slot... Should be like this during the regular season too... 🐧 being the opposition really helps...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
Man...those forward lines
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
You guys are SO going down in that meaningless exhibition game.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
You guys are SO going down in that meaningless exhibition game.
- jmatchett383


hahah Id like to see both teams win by way of zero injuries from it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:55 PM ET
hahah Id like to see both teams win by way of zero injuries from it.
- MattStrat


So, the Pens/Flyers rivalry isn't what it once was, mostly because the top villains (sans Crosby) like Hartnell, Neal, Simmonds, etc. aren't there any more. But I do ask what's going to happen when someone, in some game, pulls some cheap poop.

Take for instance Brad Marchand. This guy cannot go more than a few games without low bridging a guy or throwing a flying elbow. I've heard that these playoffs will not allow fighting. So when he does this and doesn't get called, the attitude has to be "ho-hum, maybe they'll call it next time?"

To be clear, I'm not all for staged goon fights. But if a guy pulls some dirty, cheap stuff like Marchand is known to do, there has to be a physical response.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:59 PM ET
So, the Pens/Flyers rivalry isn't what it once was, mostly because the top villains (sans Crosby) like Hartnell, Neal, Simmonds, etc. aren't there any more. But I do ask what's going to happen when someone, in some game, pulls some cheap poop.

Take for instance Brad Marchand. This guy cannot go more than a few games without low bridging a guy or throwing a flying elbow. I've heard that these playoffs will not allow fighting. So when he does this and doesn't get called, the attitude has to be "ho-hum, maybe they'll call it next time?"

To be clear, I'm not all for staged goon fights. But if a guy pulls some dirty, cheap stuff like Marchand is known to do, there has to be a physical response.

- jmatchett383


I agree.

Where did you hear no fighting? Did it also mention the punishment for it if it occurs?

I never thought about any of this until I saw your response here. Wonder how suspensions will be handled...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
I truly hope the injury bug doesn't pick up where it left off.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
I agree.

Where did you hear no fighting? Did it also mention the punishment for it if it occurs?

I never thought about any of this until I saw your response here. Wonder how suspensions will be handled...

- MattStrat


I haven't specifically heard "no fighting" but it was one of the precautions listed when the whole RTP discussion started.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
I haven't specifically heard "no fighting" but it was one of the precautions listed when the whole RTP discussion started.
- jmatchett383


Ahhh gotchya. Well it makes sense they wouldnt want hands touching faces right now...but...these players have been playing a certain way since they were children.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
No Jack Adams nom for Sully.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
Ahhh gotchya. Well it makes sense they wouldnt want hands touching faces right now...but...these players have been playing a certain way since they were children.
- MattStrat


It would be easier to transmit a virus by breathing next to someone for a few seconds in a board battle than by someone touching your face for a half-second a few times.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
It would be easier to transmit a virus by breathing next to someone for a few seconds in a board battle than by someone touching your face for a half-second a few times.
- jmatchett383


Youre probably right, especially with hockey gloves on.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 15 @ 2:27 PM ET
If they can move Bjugstad and/or JJ, then they can probably wiggle both Jarry and Murray with a bridge deal for both.
- Rinosaur

Basically if they can't fit Murray, they can't fit Marino next year. So they can fit Murray. Might not be the best move for next year, but with no cap raise and everyone trying to shed salary they better have a plan for that because they can't repeat with Marino what happened with Pettersson and just hope someone takes a guy like Anaheim did with Gudbranson to get out of it.

So when setting next year's roster, plan a way to lose at least 5M. More if Blueger and ZAR get raises and you want to keep them.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 15 @ 3:09 PM ET
Basically if they can't fit Murray, they can't fit Marino next year. So they can fit Murray. Might not be the best move for next year, but with no cap raise and everyone trying to shed salary they better have a plan for that because they can't repeat with Marino what happened with Pettersson and just hope someone takes a guy like Anaheim did with Gudbranson to get out of it.

So when setting next year's roster, plan a way to lose at least 5M. More if Blueger and ZAR get raises and you want to keep them.

- Tojo.


So you're talking about the 21/22 season...

Look, I stated in the last thread it's not feasible to keep both Murray and Jarry. I was giving a bit of an extreme scenario as a means to keeping both, but I don't recommend it even if they did get both Bjug and JJ off the books.

IMO, you move Murray when this season officially ends, give Jarry a 3yr/$3M(give or take a few dollars) and bring DeSmith up. You'll BASICALLY get wash financially in the goaltending department.

Next I would move Bjugstad and try to sign Toffoli.

Once the 20/21 season ends then I would be trying either to bribe Seattle to take JJ or find a way to move him even if it means retaining salary and you use that money to shore up the RFAs. .
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
So you're talking about the 21/22 season...

Look, I stated in the last thread it's not feasible to keep both Murray and Jarry. I was giving a bit of an extreme scenario as a means to keeping both, but I don't recommend it even if they did get both Bjug and JJ off the books.

IMO, you move Murray when this season officially ends, give Jarry a 3yr/$3M(give or take a few dollars) and bring DeSmith up. You'll BASICALLY get wash financially in the goaltending department.

Next I would move Bjugstad and try to sign Toffoli.

Once the 20/21 season ends then I would be trying either to bribe Seattle to take JJ or find a way to move him even if it means retaining salary and you use that money to shore up the RFAs. .

- Rinosaur

You need to move more than JJ to sign Marino. And you have to out-bribe the other teams trying to dump salary on Seattle. If you can guarantee Seattle takes Hornqvist, that works.

I really like Toffoli and think he'd be a good fit here, but I wouldn't want to jam up next to the cap to get him. That's why we'll differ: you ultimately want to squeeze in another big long-term salary.

There needs to be some flexibility with a flat cap. Doesn't have to mean keeping Murray on a 1 year arbitration deal, but I wouldn't rule it out and it might actually be the best option.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
You need to move more than JJ to sign Marino. And you have to out-bribe the other teams trying to dump salary on Seattle.

I really like Toffoli and think he'd be a good fit here, but I wouldn't want to jam up next to the cap to get him. There needs to be some flexibility with a flat cap. Doesn't have to mean keeping Murray on a 1 year arbitration deal, but I wouldn't rule it out and it might actually be the best option.

- Tojo.


How much do you think Marino is going to get?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 15 @ 3:55 PM ET
How much do you think Marino is going to get?
- Rinosaur

More than JJ. Probably more than Pettersson, at least should be. I'd say budget at least 5M. I also want to keep Blueger and ZAR if the raises are reasonable and they repeat this year's performance.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
I would assume potentially a Maatta type extension. 4-5 Million for multiple years just with the cap potentially being flat and players potentially not getting as much money as previous years
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
More than JJ. Probably more than Pettersson, at least should be. I'd say budget at least 5M. I also want to keep Blueger and ZAR if the raises are reasonable and they repeat this year's performance.
- Tojo.



Haha great minds think alike! Also I agree with keeping Blueger and ZAR. I think that line needs to continue to be intact. Hopefully it continues to be our great shut down line for many years down the road.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Jul 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
Absolutely ridiculous, i bet (frank)ing torts is nominated huh?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
Absolutely ridiculous, i bet (frank)ing torts is nominated huh?
- joecool2931

He is actually haha.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 15 @ 6:29 PM ET
Old news, sorry, but looking at the roster list, is it safe to assume that the WB/S folks are the ones being held out (for precaution) for secondary exposure?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 15 @ 7:06 PM ET
So the big story on the practices so far is Murray looks like shyt and Jarry looks great.

Also.... Malkin and Sid look tremendous.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 15 @ 7:54 PM ET
Joecool. Torts should absolutely be nominated. Guys a legend
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