That’s where my head is at. He’s a good hockey player. Gil makes an interesting point that maybe he should be at 2rw. And I’m fine with that too. If you can add a rw that pushed Sam down. Even better.

Bottom line he’s a really really solid 2rw and a good 1rw with jack. Top six hockey player.

You move him, who are your rw?

Skinner. Jack. Player X
Olo. Player Y. Samson

Figure out the x and the y and you have a really nice top 6.

With....

Mojo. Cozens. Kahun
Pick 1. Lazar. Okoposo

As a decent bottom 6.
- Gr8daygo

not that its a big deal, but i don't know that we need to push Pick #1 into the 4th line already..

that could be a decent top six if you can get a good set up man for player Y.. I assume you are using picks and D men to trade for X & Y?

I have no problem with trading Sam Boss, you know my feelings on Rhino, I have posted them many times. But unless you are bringing in a better player it doesn't make any sense. This team can't afford to lose good players.
- Buff36

We talked about this yesterday and I'm sure we'll have the same discussion tomorrow.

And if Nolan brings Irbe the goalie whisperer, watch out!
- Gr8daygo

didn't Irbe say he doesn't want to come back to 'Merica?

Anyone know a good company to produce custom coffee mugs for a small business?

edit: looking for metal cowboy mugs

not that its a big deal, but i don't know that we need to push Pick #1 into the 4th line already..

that could be a decent top six if you can get a good set up man for player Y.. I assume you are using picks and D men to trade for X & Y?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Pick one isn’t 2020 pick 8. It’s pick someone in the system. Roustilian. Asplund. Sign a Larry.

The way I read those stats is a nod to Pommer. Guy was clutch in the playoffs at a young age. We haven't seen Reinhart in the playoffs yet, so we shouldn't chalk him up as good or bad in that category until we see it.

I think trading Sam would be a mistake. But so would giving him a massive deal.
- chilliard77

Comparing a player who has playoff games to one who was on the worst statistical teams of the franchise is asinine. There is literally no other way to put it.

Pick one isn’t 2020 pick 8. It’s pick someone in the system. Roustilian. Asplund. Sign a Larry.
- Gr8daygo

Comparing a player who has playoff games to one who was on the worst statistical teams of the franchise is asinine. There is literally no other way to put it.
- RhinoFan

Sam has played a role in us not making the playoffs.

Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years

Sam has played a role in us not making the playoffs.

Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years
- chilliard77

You are right. Also, imagine drawing a line saying "since we haven't made the playoffs, you are all expendable".

What a trash argument.

Sam has played a role in us not making the playoffs.

Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years
- chilliard77

What are you even talking about? Pommer was on the team too...Reinhart is to blame for our skid???

You're making an argument to compare no stats, to stats. Asinine was the proper description.

What are you even talking about? Pommer was on the team too...Reinhart is to blame for our skid???

You're making an argument to compare no stats, to stats. Asinine was the proper description.
- RhinoFan

"Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years"

"Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years"
- chilliard77

#pegulahate

"Along with every other player/manager representing the Sabres for the last 9 years"
- chilliard77

"Sam has played a role for us not making the playoffs"

Why is he any different than Pommer then? What point are you trying to make?

What are you even talking about? Pommer was on the team too...Reinhart is to blame for our skid???

You're making an argument to compare no stats, to stats. Asinine was the proper description.
- RhinoFan

You're asking a biased poster for an unbiased opinion. This is not how this country works.

"Sam has played a role for us not making the playoffs"

Why is he any different than Pommer then? What point are you trying to make?
- RhinoFan

Pommer falls into the category of "every player/manager to represent the Sabres in the last 9 years" As well as Sam, Ville Leino, and even John freaking Scott.

Assigning accountability is something that's difficult to do from an outside perspective.

But I'm comfortable saying that Reinhart holds a bigger piece of the accountability pie than Pominville in his second stint in Buffalo at 35/36 years old, averaging 13 and a half minutes a night.

Pommer falls into the category of "every player/manager to represent the Sabres in the last 9 years" As well as Sam, Ville Leino, and even John freaking Scott.

Assigning accountability is something that's difficult to do from an outside perspective.

But I'm comfortable saying that Reinhart holds a bigger piece of the accountability pie than Pominville in his second stint in Buffalo at 35/36 years old averaging 13 and a half minutes a night.
- chilliard77

The losing of this franchise is 100% on the part of ownership and management.

If you want to make some argument that 1 player out of the couple hundred we've had through here in 9 years, has a fraction of a percentile more accountability than a guy who was brought in to lead a young team to the playoffs, make that point. Hopefully most will find that argument as insignificant as I do.

You're asking a biased poster for an unbiased opinion. This is not how this country works.
- TheSabresTaco

It's stuff like this that makes me think that we don't deserve a cup or playoffs.

The losing of this franchise is 100% on the part of ownership and management.

If you want to make some argument that 1 player out of the couple hundred we've had through here in 9 years, has a fraction of a percentile more accountability than a guy who was brought in to lead a young team to the playoffs, make that point. Hopefully most will find that argument as insignificant as I do.
- RhinoFan

I disagree that it falls 100% on management.

That's just my two cents.

ABT Anyone But Toronto.
- islansjet

RENT FREE

Pommer falls into the category of "every player/manager to represent the Sabres in the last 9 years" As well as Sam, Ville Leino, and even John freaking Scott.

Assigning accountability is something that's difficult to do from an outside perspective.

But I'm comfortable saying that Reinhart holds a bigger piece of the accountability pie than Pominville in his second stint in Buffalo at 35/36 years old, averaging 13 and a half minutes a night.
- chilliard77

you need like pommer on your team if your going to be good


you don't need guys like sobotka on your second line
no real answer on who to pair with your all star d man for the next decade, dahlin

and you can't have scrubs like okposo on your roster in a cap era, with that cap hit


if you want to be good


this mess is
1. part darcy
3 parts murray
2 or 3 parts botts
3 parts on kim and terry

and 1 or 2 parts on the players

Gee...i don’t know...could it be that they’re completely horrible human beings?

Just spit ballin’.
- bruceflyers

They aren't so keep the hate strong .

They aren't so keep the hate strong .
- gerbe75pts

I know you have a personal connection to them, however you can’t deny the results

They aren't so keep the hate strong .
- gerbe75pts

he left his wife and kids for a cocktail waitress

I disagree that it falls 100% on management.

That's just my two cents.
- chilliard77

Assigning blame is worthless. The entire org as a whole is to blame, head to toe.

Throwing Reinhart under the bus here is worthless. Throwing Frolik and Girgensons and Bogosian and Eichel and Meszaros and Omark and Moulson and Legwand and Erod and whoever else.

It's worthless.

you need like pommer on your team if your going to be good


you don't need guys like sobotka on your second line
no real answer on who to pair with your all star d man for the next decade, dahlin

and you can't have scrubs like okposo on your roster in a cap era, with that cap hit


if you want to be good


this mess is
1. part darcy
3 parts murray
2 or 3 parts botts
3 parts on kim and terry

and 1 or 2 parts on the players
- homiedclown

Be fair to Okposo, he's a very useful and very overpaid bottom 6 player.