Nope only Florida and us.

And if Calgary took Nylander or Ehlers they’d be in a lot better shape too. Instead of talking about blowing up the core this offseason.
- Pegullaville

Teams miss on draft picks. It's part of the game. Why is this a thing right now.

Pommer falls into the category of "every player/manager to represent the Sabres in the last 9 years" As well as Sam, Ville Leino, and even John freaking Scott.

Assigning accountability is something that's difficult to do from an outside perspective.

But I'm comfortable saying that Reinhart holds a bigger piece of the accountability pie than Pominville in his second stint in Buffalo at 35/36 years old, averaging 13 and a half minutes a night.
- chilliard77

Are you also comfortable saying, with a straight face, that you actually believe a 1st line of Maroon - Eichel - Tage is a good idea?

Of course they did, they were horrendous during the PK. Both had poor saves above expectation percentage. Ullmark was actually pretty solid 5v5.

The entire unit was poor on the PK, and the goaltending did not help. I'm not ready to write off Ullmark, and I wonder how Hutton looks with his vision fixed. It's definitely a question, though.
- TheSabresTaco

Should have put it better, we need a better 1b, 2 years in a row Hutton has disappeared, is Griess or Dell a upgrade. Do we do the wait until UPL is ready or my Cap Friendly move try and get Georgiev.

The losing of this franchise is 100% on the part of ownership and management.

If you want to make some argument that 1 player out of the couple hundred we've had through here in 9 years, has a fraction of a percentile more accountability than a guy who was brought in to lead a young team to the playoffs, make that point. Hopefully most will find that argument as insignificant as I do.
- RhinoFan

0% blame on the guy picked 2nd overall and that has played in 400 nhl games.

😀

I thought Jack was Captain.
- IonSabres

Team's need more than 1 leader.

It's almost like they should have a system?

1 Guy in Charge
2 Alternate guys in charge.

Maybe call them 1, 2, and 3? Sew it in the front of their sweaters?

Teams miss on draft picks. It's part of the game. Why is this a thing right now.
- TheSabresTaco

Imagine if Sam had Nolan Patrick's career.

Thats like when you're a kid throwing a tantrum and your parents say "keep it up and ill actually give you something to cry about"

Should have put it better, we need a better 1b, 2 years in a row Hutton has disappeared, is Griess or Dell a upgrade. Do we do the wait until UPL is ready or my Cap Friendly move try and get Georgiev.
- Buff36

Murray or Jary...both RFAs, one will be available. Grab the available one...

I'll simply reiterate what i said: the leadership on those post-07 teams was so poopty that Craig Rivet became the captain the second he was traded here.

Doesn't speak well to the leadership of Pominville or anyone else
- jcragcrumple

Good post crags,

Still not sure if pommer was picked captain because eventually they were gonna pick Craig rivet?

Pretty sure rivet was an alternate under kovu, so he must have been a leader prior.

2 obvious choices

Murray or Jary...both RFAs, one will be available. Grab the available one...
- Gr8daygo

Not bad, but Murray kinda scares me, seems to be hurt alot.

Boss unless I missed it, but you didn't answer my ?, what in your opinion is a fair contract for Rhino.

Boss unless I missed it, but you didn't answer my ?, what in your opinion is a fair contract for Rhino.
- Buff36

Looking at his seasonal stats of 40+ pts, 50 pts and one season of 65 pts, 5.5 mil.

When a player is comparable to John GD Tucker in some people's views and he gets this much energy on this site and care I rest my case, we can live with him or without him if he helps make the team better.

Imagine if Sam had Nolan Patrick's career.

Thats like when you're a kid throwing a tantrum and your parents say "keep it up and ill actually give you something to cry about"
- jcragcrumple

Yet we wonder why Hextall is also unemployed.

Yet we wonder why Hextall is also unemployed.
- Pegullaville

Did anyone know that Nolan Patrick had migraine issues at that time though? I dont remember but I dont think so.

There are fates worse than Sam

Did anyone know that Nolan Patrick had migraine issues at that time though? I dont remember but I dont think so.

There are fates worse than Sam
- jcragcrumple

Flacco knew.

Teams miss on draft picks. It's part of the game. Why is this a thing right now.
- TheSabresTaco

When you tank for that year and get the choice of the top forward in that draft to start building the foundation for the rebuild it matters if you hit on it.

When they were in their draft meetings I bet they expected more than someone like John freaken Tucker at #2 overall who I liked as a 2nd or 3rd line center but not a foundation for a rebuild.

Boss unless I missed it, but you didn't answer my ?, what in your opinion is a fair contract for Rhino.
- Buff36

2 years 9.75-10 million - Sure, seems cheap.

4.75
5.0

Sam could leave ufa in 2 years - okposo islanders style
Trade him at either deadline if he and the Sabres are still losing. Not sure of his current value, but how much different can it really be.

Short term, so when eichel inevitably leaves. We're not stuck with sam and his contract based on playing well with eichel.

Upside, we turn it around and Sam's a big part of the Sabres success. You pay him.

3 years @ 14.75
4.75
5
5

Tradeable contract

When you tank for that year and get the choice of the top forward in that draft to start building the foundation for the rebuild it matters if you hit on it.

When they were in their draft meetings I bet they expected more than someone like John freaken Tucker at #2 overall who I liked as a 2nd or 3rd line center but not a foundation for a rebuild.
- GilPerreault11

This is such an unbelievably moot argument. Of course it matters. But it's not like we picked an AHL player or Nolan Patrick. We picked a likely 70 point winger. It wasn't the best pick as hindsight tells us, but we could have done worse. Like Calgary. Like NY.

You look at the Buffalo Sabres and tell me the reason we suck is Sam Reinhart.

Flacco knew.
- TheSabresTaco

😀

2 years 9.75-10 million - Sure, seems cheap.

4.75
5.0

Sam could leave ufa in 2 years - okposo islanders style
Trade him at either deadline if he and the Sabres are still losing. Not sure of his current value, but how much different can it really be.

Short term, so when eichel inevitably leaves. We're not stuck with sam and his contract based on playing well with eichel.

Upside, we turn it around and Sam's a big part of the Sabres success. You pay him.

3 years @ 14.75
4.75
5
5

Tradeable contract
- Boss34

I say give Samsonite a 1 year contract. Boom. You're welcome.

John Tucker
- homiedclown

John Tucker was traded for John Tucker once....

I say give Samsonite a 1 year contract. Boom. You're welcome.
- Hatboro_Swords

3ER - Thx again.

1 @ 4.75

Most realistic contract with covid deap discount pricing would be 1 year.

See if the 25 year old develops more

3ER - Thx again.

1 @ 4.75

Most realistic contract with covid deap discount pricing would be 1 year.

See if the 25 year old develops more
- Boss34

who loves ya baby

Imagine if Sam had Nolan Patrick's career.

Thats like when you're a kid throwing a tantrum and your parents say "keep it up and ill actually give you something to cry about"
- jcragcrumple

I would take Patrick ..

And the flyers won the lottery we had to tank

This is such an unbelievably moot argument. Of course it matters. But it's not like we picked an AHL player or Nolan Patrick. We picked a likely 70 point winger. It wasn't the best pick as hindsight tells us, but we could have done worse. Like Calgary. Like NY.

You look at the Buffalo Sabres and tell me the reason we suck is Sam Reinhart.
- TheSabresTaco

We picked a center who couldn't play center and moved him to wing and when you have to project him to 70 pts at season number 6 when he has had one 60 pt season that is like you are talking like he is still a rookie. We have given him everything to succeed so far to get those 70 pts, line 1, franchise center, PP, and he hasn't reached it yet. If he ever goes to line 2 he'll never get close to it, he'll stick to 45-50ts.

2 years 9.75-10 million - Sure, seems cheap.

4.75
5.0

Sam could leave ufa in 2 years - okposo islanders style
Trade him at either deadline if he and the Sabres are still losing. Not sure of his current value, but how much different can it really be.

Short term, so when eichel inevitably leaves. We're not stuck with sam and his contract based on playing well with eichel.

Upside, we turn it around and Sam's a big part of the Sabres success. You pay him.

3 years @ 14.75
4.75
5
5

Tradeable contract
- Boss34

This is why you are a joke.

That'd be about the 200th largest contract in the league for the guy tied for 69th in scoring. You're right it's tradeable, any team in the league would take it. I guess it's good you have nothing to do with this team.

You just need to let it go, like the Sabres let Pommer go.