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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 20 @ 5:34 PM ET
Trading 2 of the 4 2RhD we have is not an issue.
- IonSabres


It is when Will Borgen is the next man up.

And let's not dismiss it, it's a 1RW and 2 or 3RHD. Would need to acquire both or it's Tage on the top line and Borgen as 3rd pairing, one injury away from 2nd pair. No matter your view on Sam, he is playing top line RWer right now and we don't have anyone remotely close to that in the system.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:42 PM ET
I posted the links the other day for points for guys up front the last 5 years, 3 years and 2 years


reinhart was top 60 for 5 years and 3 years, top 50 for the last 2 years


there is only 31 teams, so 93 first line players and reinhart was somewhere near the middle once you removed the d men from the list on all 3 links



the haters had no response
not 1 single response

- homiedclown



Here's my response, AGAIN.
Except for Boss, no one says he sucks.
The info above tells me he is a valuable trade chip to secure a solid 2C which is much harder to acquire. Finding a good 2C should be their number 1 priority, largely to positively impact Skinner.

Apparently, Botts was in discussions to acquire Alex Tuch, and/or Josh Anderson. If they were to trade for one or both, they could add Mojo and Kahun to that list to field three solid RW's from those 4
That enables Cozens to Bake at 3C for 1 to 2 years. They then have multiple configuration options to optimize the top 9, as well as possibly trading 1 or 2 to fill other areas of need.

Lastly, C then RhD then RW are the hardest positions to find talent.
Having one - 1RW and two - 2hD's should be able to acquire a 2C and a RW, maybe a 2nd RhD.

Please put this in your Response Folder
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
It is when Will Borgen is the next man up.

And let's not dismiss it, it's a 1RW and 2 or 3RHD. Would need to acquire both or it's Tage on the top line and Borgen as 3rd pairing, one injury away from 2nd pair. No matter your view on Sam, he is playing top line RWer right now and we don't have anyone remotely close to that in the system.

- RhinoFan


They don't have a 1st Pairing RhD now, and if Risto and Montour are dealt they still won't. However Pilut and Miller can then be the 2RhD and 3RhD. Borgen is 7th or playing in Rochester, or a trade chip in a package.

They don't need to play Borgen if both Risto and Montour are dealt.
What they need to do is find their 1st Pairing partner for Dahlin.
Jan Rutta of Tampa is currently play 1RhD next to Hedman...he plays solid D and gets the puck to Hedman quickly to start the Transition...could be a good get...UFA on a Cap strapped team...pay him $3.5 for 3 years ...that's an increase of $2.2m and could be enough.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jul 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
kim! Kim!! KIM!!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
Here's my response, AGAIN.
Except for Boss, no one says he sucks.
The info above tells me he is a valuable trade chip to secure a solid 2C which is much harder to acquire. Finding a good 2C should be their number 1 priority, largely to positively impact Skinner.

Apparently, Botts was in discussions to acquire Alex Tuch, and/or Josh Anderson. If they were to trade for one or both, they could add Mojo and Kahun to that list to field three solid RW's from those 4
That enables Cozens to Bake at 3C for 1 to 2 years. They then have multiple configuration options to optimize the top 9, as well as possibly trading 1 or 2 to fill other areas of need.

Lastly, C then RhD then RW are the hardest positions to find talent.
Having one - 1RW and two - 2hD's should be able to acquire a 2C and a RW, maybe a 2nd RhD.

Please put this in your Response Folder

- IonSabres

you only need to offer tage, sobotka, berglund and a late first and a late 2nd
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
Yet he can't be on his own line ..

I wouldn't pay him what happens if jack leaves we're (frank)ed with that contract

- gerbe75pts


Seriously? We're (frank)ed anyway. We're (frank)ed WITH Jack, let alone without him. All these asinine arguments "Sam's been here and we've lost". Well, so has Jack, dummies. It's like the Russ Brandon arguments, donkey brained.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
sure then you can trade, and move assets for an often injured boeser or one arm anderson



so many people on this site undervalues how durable reinhart is

he has yet to miss a game to injury and is our only winger that gets in front of the net


after year 3, more often then not, Vanek would miss 12 % of a season due to injury

- homiedclown



Pretend world has Sam getting in front of the net often.

He does rarely drift in front of the net.

Wouldnt he have more goals if he was really a net front presence?

Why did they put a defenseman in risto actually in front of the net on the pp. Because, no forward would/ could position themselves there, not just sam
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Seriously? We're (frank)ed anyway. We're (frank)ed WITH Jack, let alone without him. All these asinine arguments "Sam's been here and we've lost". Well, so has Jack, dummies. It's like the Russ Brandon arguments, donkey brained.
- Wetbandit1


Your small mind cant really see the difference between sam and Jack?

Its incredible, Jack is one of a kind.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
you only need to offer tage, sobotka, berglund and a late first and a late 2nd
- homiedclown


Yup, I was thinking of adding Taylor Leier and Dalton Smith in place of Bergy...I know it is a significant overpayment, but hell our pipeline is friggin stacked...need to thin the herd a bit.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 7:15 PM ET
Your small mind cant really see the difference between sam and Jack?

Its incredible, Jack is one of a kind.

- Boss34


Yes, and we've lost with him just the same.

If the team had more than one line that could score a goal they'd be way better off, but no, let's all focus on Sam because he was a Richard to my niece, or because he doesn't take stupid penalties.

Edit: The team does not have enough talent, full stop.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 7:16 PM ET
Seriously? We're (frank)ed anyway. We're (frank)ed WITH Jack, let alone without him. All these asinine arguments "Sam's been here and we've lost". Well, so has Jack, dummies. It's like the Russ Brandon arguments, donkey brained.
- Wetbandit1


Meh.
Russ likes women.
I like women.
It's all good.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
What qualifies as out of whack? Feels like even the biggest Sam fans here don't want to give him 8m on a long term deal, which says a lot. Can almost guarantee he's asking for more.
- Lunaion


You think he's asking for more than $8M per on a long term (greater than 6 years) deal, in this climate? Seriously?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 20 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yes, and we've lost with him just the same.

If the team had more than one line that could score a goal they'd be way better off, but no, let's all focus on Sam because he was a Richard to my niece, or because he doesn't take stupid penalties.

Edit: The team does not have enough talent, full stop.

- Wetbandit1



Regardless, you seem to think its Jack's fault equally?

There hasnt been a sabre in 2 decades that does more NOT to lose.

Sam is just like every other loser over the past 9 years of 0 playoffs.

Do not mention my niece (frank)face.

It was my friends daughter (frank)o.

Sam doesnt try his best every shift. How does that not bother you? (frank)o

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 7:29 PM ET
Regardless, you seem to think its Jack's fault equally?

There hasnt been a sabre in 2 decades that does more NOT to lose.

Sam is just like every other loser over the past 9 years of 0 playoffs.

Do not mention my niece (frank)face.

It was my friends daughter (frank)o.

Sam doesnt try his best every shift. How does that not bother you? (frank)o

- Boss34



Lol.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 20 @ 7:50 PM ET
Regardless, you seem to think its Jack's fault equally?

There hasnt been a sabre in 2 decades that does more NOT to lose.

Sam is just like every other loser over the past 9 years of 0 playoffs.

Do not mention my niece (frank)face.

It was my friends daughter (frank)o.

Sam doesnt try his best every shift. How does that not bother you? (frank)o

- Boss34

Half the team lacked effort and heart. If you are getting that 2C back in a trade for Rhino you do it, but this team needs all the talent it can get.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:54 PM ET
Your small mind cant really see the difference between sam and Jack?

Its incredible, Jack is one of a kind.

- Boss34

would you say the last 100 games has been the best of jack's tenure as a sabre on ice?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:55 PM ET
Regardless, you seem to think its Jack's fault equally?

There hasnt been a sabre in 2 decades that does more NOT to lose.

Sam is just like every other loser over the past 9 years of 0 playoffs.

Do not mention my niece (frank)face.

It was my friends daughter (frank)o.

Sam doesnt try his best every shift. How does that not bother you? (frank)o

- Boss34

sam and eichel has been the best sabre duo since lafontaine and mogilny


I have both of their autographs as well as eichel and reinhart
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:56 PM ET
Yes, and we've lost with him just the same.

If the team had more than one line that could score a goal they'd be way better off, but no, let's all focus on Sam because he was a Richard to my niece, or because he doesn't take stupid penalties.

.

- Wetbandit1




post of 2020
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 8:03 PM ET
Lol.
- IonSabres

https://youtu.be/aXvQMfKjuC8
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
Regardless, you seem to think its Jack's fault equally?

There hasnt been a sabre in 2 decades that does more NOT to lose.

Sam is just like every other loser over the past 9 years of 0 playoffs.

Do not mention my niece (frank)face.

It was my friends daughter (frank)o.

Sam doesnt try his best every shift. How does that not bother you? (frank)o

- Boss34


No, only an idiot would think I was saying that. JFC

Having a 4C, albeit a good one, with hands of stone play borderline 2nd line minutes is a surefire way to not score any goals. They need 2 good centers to push Larsson where he belongs. Along with another winger or 2 that can score 15 goals(on this team) Girgensons is not that guy, he shot a career best this year, even better than when he was on the first line.

We got ourselves a tough guy over here, watch out!

Lighten up, Francis. It's funny, for the guy who insults everyone, he can't take when someone makes a mistake?

You need to relax, smoke a joint, jerk off, get laid, something, anything, you're rapidly becoming Fitz, even he hasn't been that bad the past couple weeks.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
Half the team lacked effort and heart. If you are getting that 2C back in a trade for Rhino you do it, but this team needs all the talent it can get.
- Buff36


100%, but why would a team trade a center for a winger? It makes no sense. If a team is stacked at center, then they slide a guy to the wing. All centers can play wing. The big trades for those centers are all for defensemen. The biggest one in recent memory was Jones for Johansen, and then only because Torts hated Johansen. Zibanejad, sort of, but Ottawa was selling off salary, you can't rely on that.
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jul 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
Pretend world has Sam getting in front of the net often.

He does rarely drift in front of the net.

Wouldnt he have more goals if he was really a net front presence?

Why did they put a defenseman in risto actually in front of the net on the pp. Because, no forward would/ could position themselves there, not just sam

- Boss34

Because Sam is way more valuable below the goal line on the PP than in front of the net.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 20 @ 8:18 PM ET
I don't mind Reinhart the player, but he is NOT a 1RW on a Cup caliber team.

Just saying.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 20 @ 8:21 PM ET
Because Sam is way more valuable below the goal line on the PP than in front of the net.
- JetpackJesus


I've said for years he's probably a top-10 player in the NHL from below the goal line. It's a weird skill but he's excellent there
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
Also Reinhart is very underrated at tipping pucks in the mid slot. His hand-eye coordination is terrific. Definitely the best at it in the blue and gold since Vanek
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