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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 12:23 PM ET
The "total opposite" of unorthodox is orthodox, and 'orthodox' doesn't describe Sorokins style AT ALL.

Currently, Sorokin depends on his athleticism to recover from the mistakes his unorthodox playing style creates. He is absolutely a bit like Hasek in that regard.

Sorokin will need to conquer a steep learning curve in order to enjoy a long NHL career.

- Puckin_Island

My initial point was that comparing anyone to arguably the greatest goaltender to play the game is a little absurd.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
My initial point was that comparing anyone to arguably the greatest goaltender to play the game is a little absurd.
- eichiefs9


And yet you thought Ho Sang comparing himself to McDavid was apt.

Hypocrite.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
And yet you thought Ho Sang comparing himself to McDavid was apt.

Hypocrite.

- Wildschwein

When did I say that?

Did he ever actually say that? I remember him saying he wanted to be the best player in his draft class, which I probably said was fine for him to say. But I don't think I ever said I thought he'd be as good or better than McDavid
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
And yet you thought Ho Sang comparing himself to McDavid was apt.

Hypocrite.

- Wildschwein

Ho Sang’s song writing abilities evens it out with McDavid IMHO.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
My initial point was that comparing anyone to arguably the greatest goaltender to play the game is a little absurd.
- eichiefs9


Hasek was totally unique in the way he played. Sorokin is much more technical then Hasek and is very calm in the net compared to Hasek. Obviously the best goalies have and rely on great athleticism when a save is made in desperation.

I think Hasek was one of the greats but not the best imho.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
When did I say that?

Did he ever actually say that? I remember him saying he wanted to be the best player in his draft class, which I probably said was fine for him to say. But I don't think I ever said I thought he'd be as good or better than McDavid

- eichiefs9


You didn’t and he didn’t (at least I don’t think he did). I’m just trying to start some poop.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ho Sang’s song writing abilities evens it out with McDavid IMHO.
- Cptmjl


I wasn’t aware that Ho Sang was musically inclined.

This changes everything...
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
Hasek was totally unique in the way he played. Sorokin is much more technical then Hasek and is very calm in the net compared to Hasek. Obviously the best goalies have and rely on great athleticism when a save is make in desperation.

I think Hasek was one of the greats but not the best imho.

- nyisles7


Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
Hasek was totally unique in the way he played. Sorokin is much more technical then Hasek and is very calm in the net compared to Hasek. Obviously the best goalies have and rely on great athleticism when a save is make in desperation.

I think Hasek was one of the greats but not the best imho.

- nyisles7


That's better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXA0xDJm46Q

Watch and you'll clearly see what concerns NHL pundits. He play far out of the crease, leaves the 5 hole open when he moves across and has trouble moving back. His athleticism allows him to get back, but watching those top 10 Sorokin saves and you'll see a few of those aren't really saves at all. The shooter misfires and puts the puck right into the goalie rather than the open net. Most NHL players bury those pucks.

If I could trade Sorokin for Shesterkin tomorrow, I would reduce my risk and make the trade.

That said, Sorokin could be even better, but he could also be a bust.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 1:39 PM ET

- Wildschwein



Roy, Brodeur and Dryden for me are 1,2 and 3 but I wouldn’t blame anyone for taking The Dominator as #1.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
I wasn’t aware that Ho Sang was musically inclined.

This changes everything...

- Wildschwein


Word is he'll soon be singing the Blues.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
Roy, Brodeur and Dryden for me are 1,2 and 3 but I wouldn’t blame anyone for taking The Dominator as #1.
- nyisles7


Perhaps I’m a bit jaded as to who the actual “best” truly is. I think we can all agree that Hasek was the most entertaining to watch, and that figures heavily into my decision.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 1:46 PM ET
Word is he'll soon be singing the Blues.
- Puckin_Island


Hon Sang and Leddy for Thomas?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
Perhaps I’m a bit jaded as to who the actual “best” truly is. I think we can all agree that Hasek was the most entertaining to watch, and that figures heavily into my decision.
- Wildschwein



Entertaining indeed.
He would flip and spin more than a 2 buck hooker taking care of a bachelor party!
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
Hon Sang and Leddy for Thomas?
- Wildschwein


I meant he'll be singing the Blues because no NHL team will sign him.

I hope he does find a home in the NHL.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
Entertaining indeed.
He would flip and spin more than a 2 buck hooker taking care of a bachelor party!

- nyisles7


That's an interesting life experience perspective.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
Perhaps I’m a bit jaded as to who the actual “best” truly is. I think we can all agree that Hasek was the most entertaining to watch, and that figures heavily into my decision.
- Wildschwein

Ted Nolan found his wife entertaining.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Ted Nolan found his wife entertaining.
- Cptmjl


That’s what they say
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:26 PM ET
That's better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXA0xDJm46Q

Watch and you'll clearly see what concerns NHL pundits. He play far out of the crease, leaves the 5 hole open when he moves across and has trouble moving back. His athleticism allows him to get back, but watching those top 10 Sorokin saves and you'll see a few of those aren't really saves at all. The shooter misfires and puts the puck right into the goalie rather than the open net. Most NHL players bury those pucks.

If I could trade Sorokin for Shesterkin tomorrow, I would reduce my risk and make the trade.

That said, Sorokin could be even better, but he could also be a bust.

- Puckin_Island

What NHL pundits are concerned? I haven’t seen one negative scouting report on him
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
What NHL pundits are concerned? I haven’t seen one negative scouting report on him
- Vukota


Many, but 1 Puckin Pundit said he could be great or a bust.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
What NHL pundits are concerned? I haven’t seen one negative scouting report on him
- Vukota


You haven't read of any concerns regarding his style?

Here's one. https://ingoalmag.com/fea...tyorkin-style-comparison/


Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Many, but 1 Puckin Pundit said he could be great or a bust.
- nyisles7


It's good to see that you've been working on your reading skills.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
It's good to see that you've been working on your reading skills.

- Puckin_Island





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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
You haven't read of any concerns regarding his style?

Here's one. https://ingoalmag.com/fea...tyorkin-style-comparison/

- Puckin_Island

Actually I haven’t but I guess some blogger from 2018 qualifies as an NHL pundit🤷🏽‍♂️
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Jul 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
Actually I haven’t but I guess some blogger from 2018 qualifies as an NHL pundit🤷🏽‍♂️
- Vukota


I didn't waste any time looking. I know how this works.
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