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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
JB has been reduced to flopping around in front of the crease too often, and his slap shot often clears the zone for the opposition. He's a shadow of his former self, and we have him for 2 more years. But he isn't terrible. I guess Greene left an impression.
- Puckin_Island


JB's best spot is a 6th or 7th at this point. I want Greene re-signed because he can still play and the Isles gave up a 2nd for him so getting more time out of Greene would be nice.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 2 @ 5:56 PM ET


Ok, Poly

- Puckin_Island



Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Aug 2 @ 5:59 PM ET
JB's best spot is a 6th or 7th at this point. I want Greene re-signed because he can still play and the Isles gave up a 2nd for him so getting more time out of Greene would be nice.
- ses111


Wont be much money left after we re-sign Barzal, Pulock and Toews. Greene would need to be very cheap.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:00 PM ET
I’d be all for it. But I’m not gonna kid myself; there’s little to no chance Trotz puts him in over Greene.
- Wildschwein



I would go with PO experience as well.
That said he may dress 7 dmen just to give Dobson some ice time and PO experience as well.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:00 PM ET

- nyisles7


Well done, Poly.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:02 PM ET
I would go with PO experience as well.
That said he may dress 7 dmen just to give Dobson some ice time as well and PO experience.

- nyisles7


Well then, lets do it.....even though the last time Trotz went 7 D it didn't go so well.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 2 @ 6:03 PM ET
I would go with PO experience as well.
That said he may dress 7 dmen just to give Dobson some ice time as well and PO experience.

- nyisles7


Where the hell is your avi?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 6:05 PM ET
Wont be much money left after we re-sign Barzal, Pulock and Toews. Greene would need to be very cheap.
- Puckin_Island


Hopefully Greene at 38 is not looking for a big payday. Have to think he will be fair with the Isles since he likes the area and long association with Lou. It's critical for Bailey to be moved this offseason though. It will help some for a couple of reasons. Still worth looking into moving Leddy as well especially if he can bring back some nice picks to help losing some from the Pageau deal.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:10 PM ET
Hopefully Greene at 38 is not looking for a big payday. Have to think he will be fair with the Isles since he likes the area and long association with Lou. It's critical for Bailey to be moved this offseason though. It will help some for a couple of reasons. Still worth looking into moving Leddy as well especially if he can bring back some nice picks to help losing some from the Pageau deal.
- ses111


IMO, Leddy at $13.5 mil over 2 years wont get us much. I honestly think the Islanders need a mini rebuild. I don't think Baily is horrible at $5 mil. The vets I would like to see gone are, Komarov, boychuk, Ladd and Leddy, in that order. Good luck pawning those contracts off to another team without sweetening the deal.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
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Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
Hopefully Greene at 38 is not looking for a big payday. Have to think he will be fair with the Isles since he likes the area and long association with Lou. It's critical for Bailey to be moved this offseason though. It will help some for a couple of reasons. Still worth looking into moving Leddy as well especially if he can bring back some nice picks to help losing some from the Pageau deal.
- ses111


I don't think Bailey is going anywhere. I'm not a fan, and I never have been, but they can't trade him until they can replace his production. Especially since the Isles are a team that struggles to score.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
Well then, lets do it.....even though the last time Trotz went 7 D it didn't go so well.
- Puckin_Island



Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 2 @ 6:17 PM ET
Hopefully Greene at 38 is not looking for a big payday. Have to think he will be fair with the Isles since he likes the area and long association with Lou. It's critical for Bailey to be moved this offseason though. It will help some for a couple of reasons. Still worth looking into moving Leddy as well especially if he can bring back some nice picks to help losing some from the Pageau deal.
- ses111


I wouldn’t say it is critical. Love him, like him or hate him, Bailey is still a cost efficient scorer when his production is compared to his contract. No small thing when you add to that fact that he plays for a team desperate for scoring.

With the Islanders glut of quality defenders (and defensive prospects like Aho and Wilde), I’d argue that moving Leddy (or by some miracle Boychuk) should be a higher priority. Especially as the return for Leddy would likely be better than that garnered by Bailey.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:18 PM ET
Is poly7 a gif savant?
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:20 PM ET
I wouldn’t say it is critical. Love him, like him or hate him, Bailey is still a cost efficient scorer when his production is compared to his contract. No small thing when you add to that fact that he plays for a team desperate for scoring.

With the Islanders glut of quality defenders (and defensive prospects like Aho and Wilde), I’d argue that moving Leddy (or by some miracle Boychuk) should be a higher priority. Especially as the return for Leddy would likely be better than that garnered by Bailey.

- Wildschwein


You think Leddy at $6.5 next year and $7 the year after is desirable?


ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 6:24 PM ET
I wouldn’t say it is critical. Love him, like him or hate him, Bailey is still a cost efficient scorer when his production is compared to his contract. No small thing when you add to that fact that he plays for a team desperate for scoring.

With the Islanders glut of quality defenders (and defensive prospects like Aho and Wilde), I’d argue that moving Leddy (or by some miracle Boychuk) should be a higher priority. Especially as the return for Leddy would likely be better than that garnered by Bailey.

- Wildschwein


I cannot take much more of Bailey and opening a spot for Wahlstrom is a plus. If the Isles do not go far this playoff round, Lou really needs to start changing the mix.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 6:28 PM ET
I don't think Bailey is going anywhere. I'm not a fan, and I never have been, but they can't trade him until they can replace his production. Especially since the Isles are a team that struggles to score.
- JimmyP


I doubt Bailey gets moved either. I'm not that lucky. Would be interesting to see a Nelson Lee Wahlstrom 2nd line though. Wahlstrom or Bellows need a decent look on a scoring line sooner rather than later. Going to be interesting to see with the Isles quality D and Sorokin next year, does Barry open up the offense a little more?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:28 PM ET
You think Leddy at $6.5 next year and $7 the year after is desirable?
- Puckin_Island


His cap hit is 5.5 million per. That’s not terrible. Far from it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 6:30 PM ET
His cap hit is 5.5 million per. That’s not terrible. Far from it.
- nyisles7


Leddy should have some nice value for more than a few teams.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 2 @ 6:32 PM ET
You think Leddy at $6.5 next year and $7 the year after is desirable?
- Puckin_Island


Yes I do. I also think Leddy would probably get the Islanders at least a 2nd a B level prospect/solid bottom 6 forward.

Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:34 PM ET
His cap hit is 5.5 million per. That’s not terrible. Far from it.
- nyisles7


that's his cap hit with the Isles because it was averaged over his contract. Once he's traded, the cap hit becomes $6.75 per.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 2 @ 6:35 PM ET
I cannot take much more of Bailey and opening a spot for Wahlstrom is a plus. If the Isles do not go far this playoff round, Lou really needs to start changing the mix.
- ses111


True, but I think that’ll happen regardless if Bailey stays here or not. Martin, Brassard and Kühnhackl are all likely to be gone next season.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 2 @ 6:36 PM ET
True, but I think that’ll happen regardless if Bailey stays here or not. Martin, Brassard and Kühnhackl are all likely to be gone next season.
- Wildschwein


I'll need to see Moose gone before I believe it. He is Barry's playoff warrior.

Can you imagine both Bellows and Wahlstrom on the 3rd line with Pageau next year? Barry's head might explode having 2 young forwards.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:37 PM ET
Yes I do. I also think Leddy would probably get the Islanders at least a 2nd a B level prospect/solid bottom 6 forward.
- Wildschwein


Wow. I don't see that happening, but it would be sweet for us. We may lose Mayfield to expansion because I doubt the Isles protect him.

Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Aug 2 @ 6:39 PM ET
True, but I think that’ll happen regardless if Bailey stays here or not. Martin, Brassard and Kühnhackl are all likely to be gone next season.
- Wildschwein


That's how I see it, along with Griess and Greene. Caps a bitch.


JimmyP
New York Islanders
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Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 2 @ 6:39 PM ET
True, but I think that’ll happen regardless if Bailey stays here or not. Martin, Brassard and Kühnhackl are all likely to be gone next season.
- Wildschwein


Bailey isn't even close to having the worst contract on the Isles.

I hope Martin is gone, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lou signs him again.

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