With the cap concerns, i feel the leafs will always be a piece or 2 away.
Should have went all in the last year MnM were on their elc.
Ah well.
- Fakepartofme

Just a note on that... Gards has been more than adequate for Carolina and yet got run out of town on a rail... could it be that Leafs just didn’t have him slotted correctly ? Sure he’s not perfect but what d man is ? I can’t help but think he’d be better than Ceci or even Barrie -

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Just a note on that... Gards has been more than adequate for Carolina and yet got run out of town on a rail... could it be that Leafs just didn’t have him slotted correctly ? Sure he’s not perfect but what d man is ? I can’t help but think he’d be better than Ceci or even Barrie -
- dozerD10

Gards has been terrible in Lina. Sheltered minutes and lots of giveaways.

That wont be enough to get ekblad.
- Fakepartofme

Kapanen gets you Pesce.

Nylander gets Ekblad.


Rielly-Pesce
Muzzin-Ekblad

Just a note on that... Gards has been more than adequate for Carolina and yet got run out of town on a rail... could it be that Leafs just didn’t have him slotted correctly ? Sure he’s not perfect but what d man is ? I can’t help but think he’d be better than Ceci or even Barrie -
- dozerD10

Has he been adequate for Carolina? Not that +/- is the be all and end all, but I remember him being like a - 26 in the regular season. That's a bad look on a team with a blueline as respectable as Carolinas.

That, and Carolinas blueline is respectable... He should be better than he was in Toronto, he's got it far easier.

Gardiner is being used as a #5 D essentially and his numbers still aren't good. That was more his issue in Toronto, he played far too much,. The more minutes he plays the more mistakes you'll see. He's playing less this year than anytime in his career.
Leafs had him playing top minutes in a game 7 2 years ago. He was -5 in that game.

He still doesn't look the same since his back injury.

Gards has been terrible in Lina. Sheltered minutes and lots of giveaways.
- bixll

Not the two Ranger games I saw.. perhaps sheltered but more than adequate.
Just seems to me the guy that can make excellent stretch passes be OK in his own end, Would be someone the Leafs could use right now.

Not the two Ranger games I saw.. perhaps sheltered but more than adequate.
Just seems to me the guy that can make excellent stretch passes be OK in his own end, Would be someone the Leafs could use right now.
- dozerD10

Watch him more, you may see.

You can have him. All yours

Not the two Ranger games I saw.. perhaps sheltered but more than adequate.
Just seems to me the guy that can make excellent stretch passes be OK in his own end, Would be someone the Leafs could use right now.
- dozerD10

He was great for us in 2013, 2017, 2018, 2019...

Watch him more, you may see.

You can have him. All yours
- bixll

I watched Carolinas first game... Didn't see the second. I felt he was more capable than Barrie is in his own end.

That's not really a compliment to either guy.

I watched Carolinas first game... Didn't see the second. I felt he was more capable than Barrie is in his own end.

That's not really a compliment to either guy.
- joel878

Glad he's gone. Jmo

Barrie has been terrible.

Kapanen gets you Pesce.

Nylander gets Ekblad.


Rielly-Pesce
Muzzin-Ekblad



- Steven_Seagull

Ekblad isn't the answer for me. He's got some defensive issues to. Definitely not as bad as Barrie...

Ekblad isn't the answer for me. He's got some defensive issues to. Definitely not as bad as Barrie...
- joel878

Then replace him with Parayko.

Ekblad isn't the answer for me. He's got some defensive issues to. Definitely not as bad as Barrie...
- joel878

Yeah he's been a disappointment for a #1 overall, but I do like him a lot. And he's still only 24.

Glad he's gone. Jmo

Barrie has been terrible.
- bixll

Im not upset he's gone, and I can't wait until Barrie and Ceci are.

Hope they don't replace them with total cans.

Im not upset he's gone, and I can't wait until Barrie and Ceci are.

Hope they don't replace them with total cans.
- joel878

I have hope they can improve the D. Make good moves to improve the club.

I watched Carolinas first game... Didn't see the second. I felt he was more capable than Barrie is in his own end.

That's not really a compliment to either guy.
- joel878

His last three years as a Leaf he had 125 points & was +52...

it seems that Leafs could find a place / use a guy like that.

Yeah he's been a disappointment for a #1 overall, but I do like him a lot. And he's still only 24.
- RogerRoeper

For the right price I'd be willing to take that swing. I don't think Florida would trade him without something that looks like Nylander + Dermott though, and that's a price tag I'm not interested in.

I don't get paid to make the decisions though, so that's easy for me to say. 🤷‍♂️

Then replace him with Parayko.
- Steven_Seagull

Parayko would be a great partner for Rielly. Hard for me to find a reason STL would want to move him though.

you could trade for picks.
- bixll

Then we are back to the 90s leafs moving out picks for large contract players

Plus the leafs would still have to move out players for cap reasons

His last three years as a Leaf he had 125 points & was +52...

it seems that Leafs could find a place / use a guy like that.
- dozerD10

Then he hurt his back, never been the same. What is your goal? To point out we need D help. Got it.

His last three years as a Leaf he had 125 points & was +52...

it seems that Leafs could find a place / use a guy like that.
- dozerD10

Now do his playoff numbers in Toronto.

If memory serves me, there's quite a shift there...

Then we are back to the 90s leafs moving out picks for large contract players

Plus the leafs would still have to move out players for cap reasons
- Fakepartofme

Leafs could move players for picks too...

For the right price I'd be willing to take that swing. I don't think Florida would trade him without something that looks like Nylander + Dermott though, and that's a price tag I'm not interested in.

I don't get paid to make the decisions though, so that's easy for me to say. 🤷‍♂️
- joel878

They'd want Nylander bad because most of his actual money is now paid.

They'd want Nylander bad because most of his actual money is now paid.
- RogerRoeper

Toronto media asking Keefe "how Nylander can get involved" vs. "What more can we expect from Marner?" tells you everything you need to know.
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Yep, asking players to show up for the playoffs, thats when you know your team is screwed....